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yr new gurlfrand! posted:You didn’t mention the anti-hero protagonist being an anime nobleman vampire I was trying to limit it to thing(s) I liked.
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Aug 31, 2020 06:00
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twistedmentat posted:I see you've read The Isle of Women too. Oh, god, there's more than one where he's just really blatantly showing his pedophile rear end? I was talking about Firefly.
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Aug 31, 2020 06:09
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yr new gurlfrand! posted:this was a dragonlance fanfic anthology where they collected short stories from different authors in the universe and then published them "The Draconians were lizardmen born from the eggs of good dragons after being twisted by dark magic ofc There was some kind of pact among all dragons to stay out of mortal wars but tee hee the bad men did the bad thing They're all a bit unique based on what type of dragon egg they were born of All had an innate ability like shapeshifting or acid breath, and did something unique when they died like turned to stone instantly or became a copy of their killer for a few days The 'thing' was that they were all dudes, on purpose, so they'd just die out when evil was done using them. The doom brigade was a "fixer story" and let them find the small stash of female eggs and hatch them- they mature magically fast obv Then the second book gets real loving weird where all the lizardmen are the girls' dads but they're also kind of hitting on them and it's just really loving horrible So these lizard dudes have been fighting in a war for their whole 3-5 years of life and then get little children who mature to adulthood in a few months and then they're like 'uhhh guess we need to bang before our species dies out?' That's a big ol' yikes from me. (Sorry about formatting. I just asked a friend about them on Discord and that's what he had to say)
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Aug 31, 2020 06:10
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twistedmentat posted:That's how Jenny the Elf was created wasn't it? Yup, that's Jenny the Elf. Eventually, Jenni the Ogre too. Anthony wrote to the girl and asked her if she wantes to be an elf, or an ogre, as a joke, knowing that nobody wanted to be an ogre. That ogre felt miffed that she was passed up for a beatiful elf, and so went on a mission to murder her. When she finally gets her in a spot to crush her skull and throw her off a mountainside, she finds she cant do it. It turns out, she can't do it because she had become a Main Chatacter, and Main Chatacters weren't murderers. PetraCore posted:Right, like, I feel like at best he explored stuff through fiction he knew better than to touch irl, which makes it really unfortunate that the Xanth books were pretty attractive to me as a young teen bc of all the dumb bullshit puns. 16 years later, and I can still remember a line from Castle Roogna. "She had commited the cardinal maidenly sin of being forward and being rejected" Yeah, I temember being 14 or 15(?), reading the last Incarnation of Immortality book and being like "hmmmmm". Still, as a young kid I learned lessons from Xanth like "real life sex isn't actually that great, so don't go crazy over it" , "relationships aren't about ownership" , and "hating women makes you a dick, even if you have (and will have) nothing but bad experiences". Egregious as the hanky-panky was in Xanth, it was nothing compared to what I was already imagining. Im happy I was never alone with him, but being alone with his books, I think, actually made me healthier than I would have been otherwise.
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Aug 31, 2020 06:19
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:Oh, god, there's more than one where he's just really blatantly showing his pedophile rear end? I was talking about Firefly. I'd be surprised if there's a book where he doesnt
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Aug 31, 2020 06:20
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Holy poo poo he's still alive
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Aug 31, 2020 06:25
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Inverted Icon posted:Yeah, I temember being 14 or 15(?), reading the last Incarnation of Immortality book and being like "hmmmmm". Still, as a young kid I learned lessons from Xanth like "real life sex isn't actually that great, so don't go crazy over it" , "relationships aren't about ownership" , and "hating women makes you a dick, even if you have (and will have) nothing but bad experiences". EDIT: Weren't the Kender literally invented bc a dude wanted to play a rogue, but didn't want to play a, gasp, thief? So he made a race that were dexterous and agile and took things sneakily but they weren't, like, steeeeeealing, they just didn't know better and could never learn better!
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Aug 31, 2020 06:41
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I remember some Piers Anthony short stories that were loving grim - "On The Uses Of Torture" I think one was called, and it seemed to exist just to make you cringe. Sexual content in other books was often really bad - I remember weird rapey and baffling things in some of them, like the gay Satanist priest performing non-consensual cunnilingus on a female character because I don't remember why. I think one book that was particularly egregious without having sexual content was:  I don't seen any way this one can be read as anything other than a racist screed wrapped in a sci-fi/fantasy veneer.
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Aug 31, 2020 07:14
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I think I read the collection that had "On the Uses of Torture" in it. It had one about a dude having to gently caress a girl the size of a Barbie doll. The universe that made her needed massive amounts of semen and a doll sized woman banging a normal dude was their Hail Mary play and only hope. Most of that book was real weird. Often not in his usual way.
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Aug 31, 2020 07:25
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firrup posted:I think I read the collection that had "On the Uses of Torture" in it. Yeah, I think the one with the sperm quest thing was called "Minnie's Crew," as a pun on "mini screw." The fact I remember the loving titles is not because reading the book was a pleasant experience.
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Aug 31, 2020 07:45
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firrup posted:It had one about a dude having to gently caress a girl the size of a Barbie doll. The universe that made her needed massive amounts of semen and a doll sized woman banging a normal dude was their Hail Mary play and only hope. I feel like I just need to take a step back and appreciate these sentences Like, this is an accurate description of a short story that got written, and traditionally published I want to know what the gently caress kind of insane grift Piers Anthony was running where he got people to not only publish this, but willingly pay money for it, and I want the gently caress in on it
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Aug 31, 2020 08:37
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Tree Bucket posted:The word "Pern" makes me feel super uncomfortable, and I don't know why. Like the sound itself is really unpleasant. Theres an origin story for Pern's name! Pern Wiki posted:In the story, a team of FSP scientists scout a distant planet. Time is too short to resolve some mysteries, but they find it safe for human settlement, with resources to support residents but inadequate for commercial exploitation. Their report is coded P.E.R.N.c meaning Parallel Earth, Resources Negligible, recommended for colonization. So I guess the name should be Pernc
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Aug 31, 2020 11:14
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Bismuth posted:Theres an origin story for Pern's name! actually it was meant to be Perv, but the editors rejected it because it was too on the nose
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Aug 31, 2020 14:43
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Thinking about Robert Aspirin running "Pervect/Pervert" into the ground for 20+ books before God took mercy on him.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:11
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After 25 years of hearing about what masterpieces the Per books were, I finally read a couple and I have to admit they were not good. I especially hated the time-travel deus ex machina.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:13
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Applewhite posted:After 25 years of hearing about what masterpieces the Per books were, I finally read a couple and I have to admit they were not good. I especially hated the time-travel deus ex machina. It isn't a deus ex machina if it is the central conceit of the series. It's cool if you don't like it and all, but it's just a plot twist you don't like.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:17
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Bismuth posted:So I guess the name should be Pernc Parallel Earth Resources Negligible Impossibly Sexy
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Aug 31, 2020 16:25
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i guess i forgot most of the details of thomas covenant. i remember him bitching and moaning about how tragic it was to be a leper pretty much constantly. so the fact that he was already cured, had no visible disfigurements and had to live with some nerve damage in his extremities didn't really register over all the "OH WOE IS ME I WILL NEVER BE FREE FROM THIS TERRIBLE DISEASE AND STIGMA WHICH DEFINITELY ACTUALLY EXISTS IN THE 20TH CENTURY UNITED STATES" poo poo. one scene i do remember is him lepering aimlessly around the countryside when he happens upon a religious revival tent with faith healing. when he was promised totally real divine healing he started going on very loudly about how he was actually a leper and being real rude in general. they told him to get the gently caress out and don't come back which was clearly just more of the deep and widespread prejudice against lepers.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:37
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i guess i forgot most of the details of thomas covenant. i remember him bitching and moaning about how tragic it was to be a leper pretty much constantly. so the fact that he was already cured, had no visible disfigurements and had to live with some nerve damage in his extremities didn't really register over all the "OH WOE IS ME I WILL NEVER BE FREE FROM THIS TERRIBLE DISEASE AND STIGMA WHICH DEFINITELY ACTUALLY EXISTS IN THE 20TH CENTURY UNITED STATES" poo poo. one scene i do remember is him lepering aimlessly around the countryside when he happens upon a religious revival tent with faith healing. when he was promised totally real divine healing he started going on very loudly about how he was actually a leper and being real rude in general. they told him to get the gently caress out and don't come back which was clearly just more of the deep and widespread prejudice against lepers. To be fair, the cop in his town is legit tormenting him. But pretty much all of his other problems are because he is a bitter and toxic dude. The leprosy is really just a metaphor for his own unfeeling nature. He doesn't think the real world is any more real than the fantasy world, and he treats everyone like it. Thomas Covenant is a terrible person, and the books are essentially about him realizing this. Well the first series at least.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:13
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I'm stalled in my reading of the Wheel of Time series. I'm somewhere in the middle of Lord Of Chaos and the characters have been bumbling around for two entire books accomplishing gently caress all.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:16
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Applewhite posted:I'm stalled in my reading of the Wheel of Time series. I'm somewhere in the middle of Lord Of Chaos and the characters have been bumbling around for two entire books accomplishing gently caress all. it will turn even worse from that point on do yourself a favor and just stop reading it if you want closure just read from wikipedia how it ends
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Aug 31, 2020 17:19
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ChubbyChecker posted:it will turn even worse from that point on Seriously this is just stream of consciousness at this point. Also a lot of gratuitous spankings??
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Aug 31, 2020 17:23
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don't make me tug on this braid
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Aug 31, 2020 17:23
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Mozi posted:don't make me tug on this braid When Nyneve was trying to quit she somehow ended up tugging it or talking about tugging it even more.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:24
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Most of these books are written one-handed and it shows when the author no longer gets off on the porn and has to force a plot
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Aug 31, 2020 17:32
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Applewhite posted:Seriously this is just stream of consciousness at this point. Also a lot of gratuitous spankings?? Listen, only one character gets to make any progress on their problems per book, and you can only have one big action piece per book. To be fair, the big finale of Lord of Chaos is pretty good, but the book spends all its character development on Egwene. What did you expect Robert Jordan to do? Write plots that actually move?
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Aug 31, 2020 17:32
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i remember people getting really mad at the guy who did the last few books after jordan died. he didn't want to spend the next 50 years on the literary equivalent of a fugue state so he actually had things happen in his books and brought the story to a conclusion. i loved those books so much as a teenager.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:36
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i've been getting into the malazan books again these days. bounced off of them pretty hard a few years ago but this time it's working for me. there's a lot of awkward stuff and things that could be improved (in the first book mainly, the second is better overall) but there's a lot of interesting and imaginative stuff he comes up with and the writing is good enough to keep me engaged i read thomas convenant as a youngster and i honestly can't remember it. i'm not sure if i got the message or if i just breezed through it. the hyperion books were dope, i do remember that
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Aug 31, 2020 17:37
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When I first read the blurbs for wheel of time on the back of the books, I thought the series was about a bunch of continually reincarnated people and their stories across millennia. Something like "the years of rice and salt" ended up. That probably would have been way more interesting than the 15000 page slog it ended up as.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:41
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Mozi posted:i've been getting into the malazan books again these days. bounced off of them pretty hard a few years ago but this time it's working for me. there's a lot of awkward stuff and things that could be improved (in the first book mainly, the second is better overall) but there's a lot of interesting and imaginative stuff he comes up with and the writing is good enough to keep me engaged i read one of them as a kid, and only remember that the main guy had leper, liked to whine, and was teleported to the fantasy realm from hitting his head
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Aug 31, 2020 17:42
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Mozi posted:don't make me tug on this braid  ChubbyChecker posted:it will turn even worse from that point on Bell_ fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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Aug 31, 2020 17:48
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The best part of wheel of time was listening to the series on audiobook, assuming how all the names are spelled, and getting 95% of them wrong
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Aug 31, 2020 17:49
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Flapjack Monty posted:The best part of wheel of time was listening to the series on audiobook, assuming how all the names are spelled, and getting 95% of them wrong I had to switch to audiobook because my eyes would glaze over trying to read it.
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Aug 31, 2020 20:16
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i remember people getting really mad at the guy who did the last few books after jordan died. he didn't want to spend the next 50 years on the literary equivalent of a fugue state so he actually had things happen in his books and brought the story to a conclusion. The fun part was that Jordan said there was only one book left. He had been saying this for some time (the Wheel of Time was originally said to be a trilogy). Sanderson pulled Jordan's notes and looked at what he still had to get through and noped out on the rest of the story being finished in one book. He said he could finish in three books and actually did.
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Aug 31, 2020 20:38
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ChubbyChecker posted:actually it was meant to be Perv, but the editors rejected it because it was too on the nose Pern fans should call themselves Pernverts.
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Aug 31, 2020 21:02
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Even as an idiot 13 year old who regularly glazed through poo poo to mediocre fantasy books (don’t ask me about Baldur’s Gate - a book about some guys play through of the game Baldur’s Gate) i hated the way the characters of WoT just patted and whined and spanked and bumbled their way through thousands of pages where nothing happens I also played the wheel of time mud online and now I hate myself even more I remember being extremely pissed off as a young adult to learn Brian Jordan had died because I felt I suffered through those books for nothing Jokes on him, I don’t remember anything and never read the last 3
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Aug 31, 2020 21:16
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yr new gurlfrand! posted:Even as an idiot 13 year old who regularly glazed through poo poo to mediocre fantasy books (don’t ask me about Baldur’s Gate - a book about some guys play through of the game Baldur’s Gate) i hated the way the characters of WoT just patted and whined and spanked and bumbled their way through thousands of pages where nothing happens right, I was pretty obsessed with the first 6 WoT books when I was a teenager, and then they came out slower and slower and not at all. maybe I learned something? I sure read a lot about tugging. I did kind of gloss through the end of it for closure (the Sanderson ones) and I honestly don't even remember what happens.
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Aug 31, 2020 21:24
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Did the allusions to the world of wot being a future/past earth ever go anywhere?
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