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I have a couple of (half arsed, ill thought out) theories on why the CCP use that phrase in diplomatic circles so much. 1) Professional diplomats are professional people pleasers. Their entire job is based around keeping people happy, and smoothing over spats. So to them, someone whose feelings are hurt is a grave thing, and a situation that must be remedied with appeasements. Which is all the CCP wants. Appeasements. Thus they cry "my feelings are hurt!" and then wait for the army of foreign diplomats to rush over and offer soothing, placating appeasing noises to their tantrum. also 2) Something about "face culture"(tm). Insomuch as that by accusing others of hurting their feelings they are saying "I feel bad, and YOU are the one that made me feel bad. Whether I did a bad thing is beside the point. I feel bad, and it is because of you. Therefore you are the monster here."
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I always took it as “You made us angry. That, in and of itself, is a crime.”
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Aug 31, 2020 11:49
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I wonder how seriously China is going to restrict Australian imports. Something like 40% of Aussie exports go to China for almost 10% of their GDP.
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Aug 31, 2020 11:49
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I think it’s just their catchphrase that they use to justify whatever position or idea they cannot sustain with arguments. Sort of like Israel uses “existential threat”, the US has “spreading democracy”, or the EU and “we decided not to do anything until we reach a consensus”.
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Aug 31, 2020 12:36
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it's for internal consumption (maybe not quite as much these days) as in the 90s-00s people in china remembered how hosed over they were by everyone else in the 19th-20th centuries and for a government to aggressively stand up for their sense of dignity made was seen as a good thing. over time it's become a joke, though
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Aug 31, 2020 12:43
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China - is mean to everyone China - "why are they mean to me?"
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Aug 31, 2020 13:39
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I guess it can also be seen as a form of triangulation, on a national scale. CCP does something lovely, other countries respond accordingly, CCP goes "omg look how sad you're making the Chinese people!!" when it's really just the CCP officials who are upset about it and the average Chinese person wouldn't otherwise even know or care about the issue (until the state run media tells them to of course). It's like some rear end in a top hat causing a scene at the grocery store, and when they get politely called out on it, they start screaming about how you're scaring their children.
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Aug 31, 2020 13:52
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It's Xi's birthday, 2003 Waitin' for a call from his family ... They forgot about Xi (tears of a rapper)
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Aug 31, 2020 16:21
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China's bold plan for 2020: Start trade wars with every country that supplies them with food.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:57
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The diplomatic articles read like generic blocks of text with auto fill and name substitution fields. You read one, you read them all. It's a very easy bingo card with hurt feelings a free square. I wonder where their spokesman Liu Kang went, can't even get a Mortal Kombat joke these days. If you want to have a look at some actual with meat and good analysis of government media head here: https://chinamediaproject.org/ They have a history of "Hurt Feelings" (2016). It almost looks exponential. https://chinamediaproject.org/2016/01/29/a-history-of-hurt-feelings-in-china/
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Aug 31, 2020 16:58
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BrigadierSensible posted:I have a couple of (half arsed, ill thought out) theories on why the CCP use that phrase in diplomatic circles so much. it's not a diplomat's job to please his country of assignment, actually he/she should always act polite, maintain stable personal relationship, and relay the diplomatic orders from his superior, and when necessary, fucks people politely without any cussing or middle finger. Chinese diplomats failed to deliver their task really badly.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:30
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Hello my name is Xi Jinping. You hurt my feelings, prepare to die.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:35
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-31/australian-detained-in-china-television-anchor-cheng-lei/12615362 What’s 6 months detention with no charge between friends evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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Aug 31, 2020 18:17
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RedTeam posted:Hello my name is Xi Jinping. You hurt my feelings, no why.
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China vs Australia news: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/asia/australian-tv-anchor-cheng-lei-detained-in-china-20200831-p55r3j.html They have arrested an Australian TV journalist without charge. Apparently they did so 2 weeks ago, and the Aus govt. knew, but has kept it under wraps, (much like the poor woman rotting in a Beijing jail cell). Given she is a Chinese-born Australian citizen, my guess is they will paint her as a traitor, brainwashed by the evil and oh so powerful Australian secret service to be a spy.
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BrigadierSensible posted:They have arrested an Australian TV journalist without charge. Apparently they did so 2 weeks ago, and the Aus govt. knew, but has kept it under wraps, (much like the poor woman rotting in a Beijing jail cell).
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Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say but nothing comes out when they move their lips just a bunch of gibberish and motherfuckers act like they forgot about Xi.
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oohhboy posted:The diplomatic articles read like generic blocks of text with auto fill and name substitution fields. You read one, you read them all. It's a very easy bingo card with hurt feelings a free square. I wonder where their spokesman Liu Kang went, can't even get a Mortal Kombat joke these days. It's a phenomenon that appeared in the Soviet Union too. You, a low-level apparatchik, do not want to make waves by trying language that might raise the ire of someone higher up for not properly spouting the party line, and a surefire way to ensure you don't is to use some canned phrase that has already been vetted by virtue of appearing in some other official document. You also know that loving nobody really cares about the substance of the document or actually wants to read it, so the prose being dry and repetitive doesn't really matter because it serves its purpose: the work is done, and your supervisor is off your back to get it out.
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 forwarded from reddit/pincong. diplomats don't just please their assignments, nor did anyone need to. can't read Czech so no way to verify the correctness of translations. is anyone able to do that here? Zakrello fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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Sep 1, 2020 07:01
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Chinathread: with pretending regards
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Zakrello posted:
Apparently he's a mayor of a suburb(?) of Prague, so not really a diplomat but still, lol. I can't read Czech either but I imagine there's only so many ways to translate "diplomatický gently caress-up"
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That reminds me of when Tito wrote a letter to Stalin saying "Stop sending assassins after me! You send one more and I'll send one after you, and mine won't gently caress it up."
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Zakrello posted:
The background btw is that a senator went to Taiwan with a delegation of politicians, scientists, culture and business people and China got mad for hurting the feelings of 1.4 billion people. So that's a (fake?) reaction to their reaction. https://translate.google.com/transl..._zahranicni_aug
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mobby_6kl posted:The translation is obviously pretty lovely but vaguely accurate. It's written in a very casual, non diplomat-speak manner. I doubt the actual document is legit, but if it is the mayor of a city district doesn't have much of a role in foreign policy anyway. Schweik's Taipei Anabasis.
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The mayor of Prague has been absolutely fantastic at calling out the PRC and actually backing it up with what actions he can take, such as switching sister cities from the PRC to Taipei so I can believe he'd straight up send a "go gently caress yourself" letter to the Chinese foreign affairs minister
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Fojar38 posted:The mayor of Prague has been absolutely fantastic at calling out the PRC and actually backing it up with what actions he can take, such as switching sister cities from the PRC to Taipei so I can believe he'd straight up send a "go gently caress yourself" letter to the Chinese foreign affairs minister. Note: Pavel Novotny is the mayor of Řeporyje, a municipal district within Prague. The Mayor of Prague is Zdeněk Hřib. Say that three times fast!
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Kharnifex posted:I can only hope, this man runs for PM of Japan "If I get elected they will be terrified... I myself will be terrified!" -coolest man in tokyo
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New Taiwan passport has a  gently caress you to China.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54001811 quote:Authorities said the redesign was to stop confusion between its nationals and citizens of China.... 
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oohhboy posted:New Taiwan passport has a hell yeah
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Sep 2, 2020 23:14
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My submission of a grinning Chiang Kai-shek blowing massive ropes all over a warehouse of "liberated" Chinese artefacts was not considered.
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oohhboy posted:China is steps up its bullying of Australia. lol, maybe don't do everything in your power to piss of a major trading partner.
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Scott Morrison frantically pressing a button labelled "crawl up Trump's rear end" while completely ignoring a button labelled "avoid antagonising the largest importer of our minerals"
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Sep 3, 2020 02:11
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It's China. It considers anything other than groveling subservience to be "antagonising"
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Sep 3, 2020 04:22
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Yes the reason people would choose australian wine over chinese is in some way related to its price.
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I'unno, I hear renal failure's pretty expensive.
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you aren't experiencing renal failure. red wine red, so red urine. please go home our hospitals are at capacity with patients who are actually experiencing renal failure
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Lol an old guy took a box of saliva samples from a hospital that were meant for covid testing. He used it to keep from getting rained on and then left it in a parking garage. https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1547748-20200904.htm
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bones 4 beginners posted:Lol an old guy took a box of saliva samples from a hospital that were meant for covid testing. He used it to keep from getting rained on and then left it in a parking garage. Stupid, but not quite as stupid as all the lunatics who get into screaming matches with store employees over wearing a mask.
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oohhboy posted:New Taiwan passport has a Reintegration of a rebellious province coming soon to a Taiwan near you!
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TAIWAN NUMBER 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E40p3GwVyIY
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