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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Wonder if the Game of Thrones one will actually reach parity with the CK2 one, given how the show ended and folks seem much less interested in it. It'd be a shame if it never did, because that was a seriously good mod. I mean, I never got to play much of that mod, but wasn't it very very geared towards the fans of the books? Tons of the scenarios were set before Robert Baratheon was even born, and I don't think fans of only the show care too much about any ruler before Aerys the Mad King. Plus, Martin just came out with a new Chronology book for the universe relatively recently, so I think it would still have legs.
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I've never really bothered with the total conversion mods, but there are still plenty of normal mods out there that can expand on game features. Like, there are witches in CK3. I don't know how much the game actually uses them, but I could see a mod latching onto that and greatly expanding witchcraft. And for Stellaris I always downloaded a bunch of expanded color/icon options. While dynasty crests can't be changed yet, I'm hoping for a mod containing a lot of new religion icons (because the selection that we saw in Rimmy's preview video was dreadfully bare).
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trapped mouse posted:I mean, I never got to play much of that mod, but wasn't it very very geared towards the fans of the books? Tons of the scenarios were set before Robert Baratheon was even born, and I don't think fans of only the show care too much about any ruler before Aerys the Mad King. Plus, Martin just came out with a new Chronology book for the universe relatively recently, so I think it would still have legs. Yeah, it was very book focused, but the general GoT fandom's kinda died, and GRRM never putting out the next book certainly doesn't help.
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Sep 1, 2020 03:30
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Wolfechu posted:I could honestly live without the GoT one, but can't wait to see what the others do. I imagine the 3D modelling is going to slow them up, though. If they re-did the Elder Scrolls mod they could just use models from Oblivion.
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Sep 1, 2020 03:42
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Here's the important question Secret Bears y/n Also, Sunset Invasion when???
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Sep 1, 2020 03:43
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I'm extremely excited for Crusader Kings III. I never thought I would dive so deep in to a game like CK2, and it seems like CK3 is a better experience and much more polished than CK2. Can't wait to start as a count in Ireland!
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Sep 1, 2020 03:51
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Captain Oblivious posted:Here's the important question Same, I'm here for the weird stuff.
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Sep 1, 2020 03:54
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Any word on if Satanism is going to be in the game out of the box? I'm playing (probably) my last game of CK2 before CK3, and I joined Lucifer's Own for the first time, and holy poo poo it's so much fun.
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Sep 1, 2020 03:56
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discoukulele posted:Any word on if Satanism is going to be in the game out of the box? I'm playing (probably) my last game of CK2 before CK3, and I joined Lucifer's Own for the first time, and holy poo poo it's so much fun. As of right now the answer is no as far as the traditional satanists and being a member of a secret cult. However the new religion systems have enough freedom to let you make your own nudist sex cult or cannibalistic war cult so that might fill the gap for you depending on what you liked best about the satanists in Ck2.
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Sep 1, 2020 03:59
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Looking at the Tech system, I guess theres a way bigger incentive now to convert to a new culture. Anyone know how melting pots impact technology? Or if melting pots still exist? I assume they do.
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I've been watching some streams and one thing I don't like is how crusades seem to happen way too early. They should be happening around 1090-ish, not in the 880s. It's a minor thing, and I guess won't be a factor if you play in 1066. But it kind of ruins the 867 start. I just saw the pope call a crusade on Viking Jarvik in 890, and while it was strong, it wasn't crazy huge or anything, it was mostly historical in size. I really don't think relatively minor viking invasions should be triggering crusades. Sure, if Jarvik takes all of England, then ok maybe a crusade is justified, but if they are just sitting around York as they did historically then it's kinda bs.
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Sep 1, 2020 04:00
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Does it always have to be Sunset invasion? One of the little things about Stellaris was having the nature of the end game threat be a little unpredictable. One game? Aztecs! Next game? The Chinese! After that...hell, I don’t know, time traveling Protestants?
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Sep 1, 2020 04:00
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CommunityEdition posted:Does it always have to be Sunset invasion? One of the little things about Stellaris was having the nature of the end game threat be a little unpredictable.
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CommunityEdition posted:Does it always have to be Sunset invasion? One of the little things about Stellaris was having the nature of the end game threat be a little unpredictable. There were some mods for this, the one I liked was having a lost Roman legion march out of the Sahara.
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Sep 1, 2020 04:05
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:The Jews. The Khazars are already in
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Sep 1, 2020 04:05
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Hey, have any Aussies tried buying CK3 from IndieGala and registering it on Steam? I assume it'll allow you to, but I thought I'd better check. o7
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Sep 1, 2020 04:08
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Come to think of it, the new religion system basically supports an early Protestant Reformation right out of the box, right?
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Sep 1, 2020 04:11
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Lol One Proud Bavarian’s 7 hour stream showed (23:38 on the stream) the Seljuks at year 1404. +43.82 renown per month from 1541 living members giving +30.82 per month alone with the King of France getting 2.47. Every dynasty unlock unlocked. God drat why can’t it be tomorrow. I can finally get in on the ground floor of day 1 paradox breaks and have a great time.
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Sep 1, 2020 04:14
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I just got the game; I never buy games on release, but after so many good reviews and all the hours of entertainment that CK2 gave me, I felt that I had to get CK3 now.
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CommunityEdition posted:Does it always have to be Sunset invasion? One of the little things about Stellaris was having the nature of the end game threat be a little unpredictable. bavarians that were trapped beneath the earth after a tragic turnip-mining accident and have become something... else
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Sep 1, 2020 04:25
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Give me an Atlantis Returns DLC paradox 
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Sep 1, 2020 04:27
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Invasion from the Hollow Earth when?
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Sep 1, 2020 04:33
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Did claim fabrication happen as much in real life as it does in these games? Where do these ancient land holding come from anyway? When did the land get divided up into duchies and counties? I thought it was all ruins of the Roman empire.
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Ghislaineof YOSPOS posted:Did claim fabrication happen as much in real life as it does in these games? Where do these ancient land holding come from anyway? When did the land get divided up into duchies and counties? I thought it was all ruins of the Roman empire. Claim fabrications are a noob trap that only goons do because they all learned how to play by following a crappy LP tutorial that was done here years ago where the author took 300 years to take over Britain by claim warring each individual province.
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Sep 1, 2020 04:50
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Why isn’t it CK3 time yet. Why do I have sleep and then work?
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Sep 1, 2020 04:55
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Jokes on you, my class tomorrow ends right at 12 pm. ...but I then have to do homework first before playing or else my strategy game obsessed ADHD brain won’t let me do anything else. 
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Sep 1, 2020 05:01
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Ghislaineof YOSPOS posted:Did claim fabrication happen as much in real life as it does in these games? Where do these ancient land holding come from anyway? When did the land get divided up into duchies and counties? I thought it was all ruins of the Roman empire. It was a lot more dynamic in real life than in the game - it uses the ones it does because those are the borders that we ultimately ended up with but most of it was determined during the period the game is set. As for claim fabrication it's sort of hard to say, I'm honestly not sure how much "claims" even mattered in real life, it usually just boiled down to if people wanted something they just took it. At most they might make up some sort of political insult that demanded retribution but the general casus belli thing is more of a gameplay conceit than a realistic depiction of how warfare worked in history.
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I mean, pretenders to titles were certainly a thing, with the land itself coming only as a consequence of that title. And sometimes people just took land they had no legitimate claim to. I think it’s just a catch-all for either a literal fabrication of a claim or the groundwork of getting the right people to not object when you made a naked power grab.
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hopeandjoy posted:Jokes on you, my class tomorrow ends right at 12 pm. The smart real life player plays the game immediately. The wise real life player doesn’t flunk out of school when there’s Labor Day weekend right around the corner.
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Ghislaineof YOSPOS posted:Did claim fabrication happen as much in real life as it does in these games? Where do these ancient land holding come from anyway? When did the land get divided up into duchies and counties? I thought it was all ruins of the Roman empire. Still happens. Michael Eisner actually tried to claim some to those of d'Isigny if Disney Wars is to be believed.
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Arbite posted:Still happens. Michael Eisner actually tried to claim some to those of d'Isigny if Disney Wars is to be believed. The cheese?
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How do I play this and MSFS2020 at the same time?
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The other thing about claim "fabrication" was that it was often just about tracing some distant connection to someone who once held the title, which could easily have been completely real in the sense that such a connection did exist; it's just that it was such a distant relation that using it as justification for why they should hold the title personally is flimsy. There's a lot more interrelation in real life than in CK since the game will attempt to cull extraneous family members so there are a lot more dead ends on family trees - but in real life those people just kept on getting married and having kids and even if 99% of them ended up being unimportant, they could still serve as a connection to make one of these sorts of claims. It's like the thing about how basically anyone of European descent could legitimately trace themselves back to Charlemagne. It would just be a matter of finding the documentation that would be used to prove that connection, which your average person probably wouldn't have but royalty almost certainly would.
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Sinten posted:How do I play this and MSFS2020 at the same time? This but Wasteland 3.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:The other thing about claim "fabrication" was that it was often just about tracing some distant connection to someone who once held the title, which could easily have been completely real in the sense that such a connection did exist; it's just that it was such a distant relation that using it as justification for why they should hold the title personally is flimsy. There's a lot more interrelation in real life than in CK since the game will attempt to cull extraneous family members so there are a lot more dead ends on family trees - but in real life those people just kept on getting married and having kids and even if 99% of them ended up being unimportant, they could still serve as a connection to make one of these sorts of claims. In my mind it’s been fake it by paying off a corrupt priest to forge church documents about ‘oh right THAT secret bastard child x of y that secretly was legitimized’. It’s fabricate a claim, not pull a Hey Gal and comb through local records for 5 years. Haesteinn starts with 2600 prestige, which is enough for an invasion of a Kingdom. Praise be! The North Tower fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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I always imagine it's kinda like William the Conquerors claim to England. "You totally secretly said you would make me king of England! All my friends saw it!"
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I sort of figured it was like the "patents of nobility" in A Knight's Tale. It just took a long while for your chancellor to find a buck naked Chaucer wandering down a back road to forge it for you.
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Spent the day fondly saying farewell to CK2. Cranked out most but not all of the cosmetics for 3, and then played a little After the End. Just taking a moment to think of the scope of the game today, especially compared to at release, kind of blows the mind. Almost a millennium, numberless characters, dozens of religions and heresies, hundreds of cultures, feudal, republic, tribe, nomads, from Iceland to Mali to Siberia to India, artifacts, great wonders or whatever they're called, more events than I can begin to count that range from "you're a werewolf" to "you're being followed by a stray cat" (Which only today did I learn could if you give it away at your spouse's behest lead to you and the adopter later bonding over your mutual love of cats  ), and that's without installing one single mod.One of the last things that happened before I closed the game was me, trying to seduce some commoner to have babby, asking her friend to help me hook up with her. Her friend was my wife. What a wonderful end to CK2 for me  And now we get to do it all over again in a game that by all accounts is even better. Here's to another 8 1/2 years friend goons. Hopefully with more bonkers invasions from beyond than ever! o7 e; The Pants Act is going to be incredible with nudity in the game 
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The Cheshire Cat posted:The other thing about claim "fabrication" was that it was often just about tracing some distant connection to someone who once held the title, which could easily have been completely real in the sense that such a connection did exist; it's just that it was such a distant relation that using it as justification for why they should hold the title personally is flimsy. There's a lot more interrelation in real life than in CK since the game will attempt to cull extraneous family members so there are a lot more dead ends on family trees - but in real life those people just kept on getting married and having kids and even if 99% of them ended up being unimportant, they could still serve as a connection to make one of these sorts of claims. for example, Jeanne de Valois-Saint-Rémy who was a nobody that did real damage to Marie Antoinette's reputation in the leadup to the french revolution Jeanne, who styled herself the Comtesse de la Motte, was the daughter of a guy who was a patrilenial descendent of a bastard of Henry II some 150 years earlier. so technically, she was part of the royal family, even if she was basically just some shitkicker like everyone else. but she had a taste for fine living and as a descendent of a french king, was entitled to a stipend. it wasn't much though, not nearly as much as what she thought she deserved, so she ended up scheming her way into a real dumbass situation. cropped from wiki quote:When it became clear that Nicolas was unable to meet the couple's financial needs to maintain them in the extravagant style that his wife avidly desired, Jeanne resolved to ask a more generous pension from the royal family due to her royal blood. She decided to approach Marie Antoinette as she felt the Queen, being a woman, would be more sympathetic to her plight; Jeanne therefore made frequent visits to Versailles in the hope of catching the Queen's attention. At that time, any ordinary citizen dressed in suitable attire could enter the palace and its gardens, and observe the royal family. Nevertheless, Marie-Antoinette had been told of Jeanne's questionable lifestyle and refused to meet her. so some bumblefuck scenario like this, because human beings in all time periods are barely functioning dipshits
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