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Total: 28 votes
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Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

Martytoof posted:

Hi new friends! Pick three from each category, not just one :)

I updated the banzuke post to suggest this.

:swoon:

Thanks!

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Gonna prep this if this is too early so I can repost when its time


Y/O: Hakuho / Takakeisho / Asanoyama
S/K: Daieisho / Shodai / Mitakeumi
M1-5: Toshinoshin / Terutsuyoshi / Hokutofuji
M6-10: Enho / Wakatakakage / Kotoeko
M11+: Kaisei / Kotoshogiku / Chiyotairyu

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

QuasiQuack posted:

I will never not back my favorite tiny man, through thick or... slightly less thick.

i like him too, but i think he needs a new game plan...

the other wrestlers seem to be winning against him by standing their ground and using pushing-thrusting to keep him out of range and off the mawashi

like, look at his bout with Yutakayama in Nov 2019, the one where they just didn't do a tachiai. just look how far back from the line Yutakayama is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWXZ5Sq9Xu0&t=273s

and again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPvo8saOj4&t=191s

and again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUsRm1gHHuI&t=231s

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Love seeing new folks in the fantasy game! I'm excited for this basho.

I wonder how people are gonna fare with the shorter time between basho though. I guess there are no non-basho events they're doing, so maybe it'll be a wash.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

where possible i hope to go with the team that won it for me the last basho. my main mistake was a sentimental pick of enho and he's a better value at M9


Y/O: Asanoyama/Hakuho/Takakeisho
S/K: Shodai/Daiesho/Mitakeumi
M1-5: Terunofuji/Hokotofuji/Tamawashi
M6-10: Enho/Takayasu/Kagayaki
M11+:Hoshoryu/Meisei/Kotoshogikiu

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer
e: decided to participate in fantasy sumo this time

Y/O: Kakuryu / Hakuho / Asanoyama
S/K: Daiesho / Shodai / Mitakeumi
M1-5: Hokotofuji / Terutsuyoshi / Takarafuji
M6-10: Wakatakakage / Tokushoryu / Takayasu
M11+: Ichinojo / Hoshoryu / Kaisei

Kakuryu better not trip and fall this time!!!



e: scrapping my picks because i didnt understand the rules. picked new guys (same as in the later post):

Y/O: Takakeisho / Asanoyama / Hakuho
S/K: Daiesho / Shodai / Mitakeumi
M1-5: Terunofuji / Terutsuyoshi / Kiribayama
M6-10: Takayasu / Tokushoryu / Aoiyama
M11+: Hoshoryu / Ichinojo / Kyokutaisei

Helianthus Annuus fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Sep 7, 2020

Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

IRL stuff kept me from doing this last Basho but looking forward to fat men fighting again

Y/O: Takaeisho
S/K: Okinoumi/Shodai/Endo
M1-5: Yukatayama/Hokotofuji/Toshinoshin
M6-10: Wakatakatakatakatakatakatakakage/Onosho/Kotoeko
M11+: Kyokotaisei/Chihotairyu/Ichinojo

Robviously fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Sep 12, 2020

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007


Missed the deadline last tournament so let’s get in early this time.

Y/O: Asanoyama/Takakeisho/Hak
S/K: Shodai/Mitakeumi/Daieisho
M1-5: Terunofuji/Takanosho/Hokotofuji
M6-10: Enho/Kagayaki/Kotoeko
M11+:Hoshoryu/Kotoshoho/Ishiura

EDIT: Replacing Hakuho

The GOAT pulled out last time, so he’s due for a win this time.

Shodai and Mita are both on long shot Ozeki runs so pulling for those guys.

I think Enho is a guy who can be pretty good at the lower levels where his skill is enough to overcome his size, but if he gets high enough where he has to fight the Sanyaku crew, he’s probably getting crushed by dudes as good as he is and also have 100 pounds on him.

Hoshoryu and Kotoeko are both young guys I am excited to see, but Hoshoryu gets the pick as first timer.

Also, I really want one of the Kotos to kick rear end and break into the 1-5 ranks to make a gimmick team work for the M ranks in November.

pseudodragon fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Sep 7, 2020

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

So I should pick three from each category, in order (whoever we think has the best record in a category would be pick #1, etc?), right?

Is there any weight given to picking someone who is M17 over someone who is M11, in the M11+ bracket?

(Like it even matters, I have no idea who many of these guys are. I speed-watched the entire last basho and it was my first one. I'll just be picking the names I recognize in semi-random order)

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
You may be overthinking it a little. Just pick three from each category according to your preference — the one you want, the one you’d want if the first wasn’t available, etc. And as for who to pick, as far as rank goes, if you are picking for M1-5 and you think the guy at M4e is a better wrestler than M1e, for example, then by all means pick M4e. If you don’t really follow the wrestlers much at all then they’re all going to be random names and your best bet is either to just pick randomly, pick some guy whose photo looks goofy and you take a liking to, or just try to pick the top guys in each section.

Keep in mind that high rank is no indication of continued success. We’ve had top ranked guys get only two wins an entire tournament. There’s an element of chance involved.

Kenning posted:

Drafting

A wrestler can only be in a limited number of stables. This number will be a fraction of the total number of people in the league, and whoever is running the league can adjust it for every rank level. For example, perhaps a wrestler could only be held by 1/3 (rounded down) of the players in the league. That means in a league of 10 players, only 3 can have the same wrestler at the same time.

For the draft, each player makes a ranked list of the 3 wrestlers they would like at every rank level. Once these lists have all been submitted, the draft randomizes, and then applies the picks in a snake (i.e. y/o picks go ABCDE and then s/k picks go EDCBA and then m1-5 picks go ABCDE etc.). If someone's 1st choice is full by the time the snake reaches them, it takes their second choice, and so on. The randomized list for the draft will be used for the trading wire, but reversed (i.e. if the draft is ABCDE then the wire will start at EDCBA on day 1).

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Sep 1, 2020

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Martytoof posted:

You may be overthinking it a little. Just pick three from each category according to your preference — the one you want, the one you’d want if the first wasn’t available, etc. And as for who to pick, as far as rank goes, if you are picking for M1-5 and you think the guy at M4e is a better wrestler than M1e, for example, then by all means pick M4e. If you don’t really follow the wrestlers much at all then they’re all going to be random names and your best bet is either to just pick randomly, pick some guy whose photo looks goofy and you take a liking to, or just try to pick the top guys in each section.

Keep in mind that present rank is no indication of continued success. We’ve had top ranked guys get only two wins an entire tournament. There’s an element of chance involved.

Oh my. So, if I just pick names I recognize in semi-random order, that's okay, then? I'll save the strategy for later. :)

As long as it's okay for me to ignore other people's picks, that's good.


Edit: Ahh, I see your edit above. Thank you!

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
That’s absolutely okay. I’ll be honest, I do a lot of random picking outside of guys I really enjoy. Like I’m a big Takayasu and Enho fan, so my picks for M6-10 will probably be Takayasu/Enho and then some random third dude. If I get Takayasu or Enho I’ll be happy, and if I get the third dude I’ll at least have someone to follow and root on who I may not already have been rooting for.

Fantasy is part competitive and mostly (imo) an excuse to latch onto rando japanese guys who you’ve never heard of before, cheering them on for two weeks.

Once you’ve watched a few basho you can start to strategize about guys who you think fight well, or who may be coming back from injury that you’ll probably want to avoid taking, or just guys you enjoy watching. Until then I’m a big fan of picking guys whose photos you like :haw:

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Y/O: Hakuho/Kakuryu/Asanoyama
S/K: Shodai/Mitakeumi/Endo
M1-5: Terunofuji/Toshinoshin/Takarafuji
M6-10: Tokushoryu/Wakatakakage/Aoiyama
M11+: Ichinojo/Chiyotairyu/Shohozan

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Y/O: Hakuho / Asanoyama / Kakuryu
S/K: Daieisho / Mitakeumi / Endo
M1-5: Terunofuji / Toshinoshin / Takarafuji
M6-10: Aoiyama / Kotoeko / Enho
M11+: Hoshoryu / Kaisei / Shimanoumi



I wonder what happened to that Kotoshoho guy. I was gonna pick him. I guess he dropped down!

Brut posted:

He's M12 along with Kaisei.


Oh. There is no wrestler named Kotonosho

Oh, well in that case:

Y/O: Asanoyama / Hakuho / Takakeisho
S/K: Daieisho / Mitakeumi / Endo
M1-5: Terunofuji / Toshinoshin / Takarafuji
M6-10: Aoiyama / Kotoeko / Enho
M11+: Kotoshoho / Kaisei / Shimanoumi

Chinook fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Sep 11, 2020

Brut
Aug 21, 2007

Chinook posted:

I wonder what happened to that Kotoshoho guy. I was gonna pick him. I guess he dropped down!

He's M12 along with Kaisei.

Martytoof posted:

M12 - Kotonosho, Kaisei

Oh. There is no wrestler named Kotonosho

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

Chinook posted:

So I should pick three from each category, in order (whoever we think has the best record in a category would be pick #1, etc?), right?

Is there any weight given to picking someone who is M17 over someone who is M11, in the M11+ bracket?

(Like it even matters, I have no idea who many of these guys are. I speed-watched the entire last basho and it was my first one. I'll just be picking the names I recognize in semi-random order)

one way to do it would be to just pick the highest ranked guys from each section and hope you get him. so pick hakuho, shodai, etc. guys who did well in the last basho

another way to do it would be to assume you wont get your first pick, so try to get sleeper picks. so you gamble on kakuryu, endo, etc. and you'll probably get him if nobody else wants him.

its also fun to look at the young guys up from juryo, and try to guess who is going to have a good debut

--
e: oh gently caress... actually dont listen to me, or pay attention to my picks, because i didnt know a rikishi could be claimed multiple times

Helianthus Annuus fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Sep 1, 2020

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
My bad, sorry gang, apologies to Kotoshoho. Updated the list. I was sure I had gone through line by line to double check but my eyes must have glazed over.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
Y/O: Hakuho, Takakeisho, Asanoyama
S/K: Endo, Daieisho, Mitakeumi
M1-5: Tochinoshin, Terutsuyoshi, Takanosho
M6-10: Aoiyama, Enho, Wakatakakage
M11+: Chiyotairyu, Kaisei, Kyokutaisei

Fluffdaddy
Jan 3, 2009

Its been awhile but I am finally able to watch Sumo again

Y/O: Asanoyama/Hakuho/Kakuryu
S/K: Shodai/Endo/Mitakeumi
M1-5: Terunofuji/Tochinoshin/Myogiryu
M6-10: Onosho/Enho/Aoiyama
M11+: Ichinojo/Kasai/Ishiura

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
When are the matches? I need to do picks but wont have tim til the end of Sep 1st =/

Brut
Aug 21, 2007

Mekchu posted:

When are the matches? I need to do picks but wont have tim til the end of Sep 1st =/

September 13th.

Maigius
Jun 29, 2013


Y/O: Asanoyama/Hakuho/ Kakuryu
S/K: Mitakeumi/Daieisho/Okinoumi
M1-5: Terunofuji/Hokutofuji/Takarafuji
M6-10: Kagayaki/Tokushoryu/Enho
M11+: Ichinojo/Kotoshogiku/Meisei

Betting on the dark horse for M11+, can't hurt.

Charles Gnarwin
Jul 31, 2014

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...


Y/O: Asanoyama, Takakeisho, Kakuryu
S/K: Mitakeumi, Endo, Shodai
M1-5: Terunofuji, Terutsuyoshi, Kiribayama
M6-10: Enho, Wakatakakage, Takayasu
M11+:Ichinojo, Kaisei, Shohozan

Definitely threw some new picks for me in hopes of not assembling another doomed team.

9/6 edit to drop Hakuho
9/13 edit to drop Ishiura that hopefully gets in

Charles Gnarwin fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Sep 13, 2020

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Y/O: Asanoyama / Takakeisho / Kakuryu
S/K: Mitakeumi / Daieisho / Shodai
M1-5: Takanosho / Kiribayama / Yutakayama
M6-10: Kagayaki / Aoiyama / Ryuden
M11+: Ichinojo / Chiyotairyu / Kotoshogiku

anakha fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Sep 12, 2020

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Great basho ahead.

Y/O: Hakuho/Asanoyama/Kakuryu
S/K: Daieisho/Mitakeumi/Shodai
M1-5: Terunofuji/Myogiryu/Tamawashi
M6-10: Wakatakakage/Takayasu/Ryuden
M11+: Meisei/Chiyotairyu/Hoshoryu

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Alright, getting in on this one. Picking with my heart.

Y/O: Kakuryu(!) / Hakuho / Asanoyama
S/K: Mitakeumi / Daiesho / Okinoumi
M1-5: Hokutofuji / Tamawashi / Terutsuyoshi
M6-10: Kotoeko / Ryuden / Wakatakakage
M11+: Kotoshogiku / Tobizaru / Ichinojo

Beeswax fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Sep 1, 2020

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


This basho, I have chosen rikshi with as many syllables as possible in their names at each rank. In the case of a tie, I went with dudes I haven't picked before. I look forward to being squarely in the middle of the fantasy field like always.

Y/O: Asanoyama/Takakeisho/Hakuho
S/K: Mitakeumi/Daieisho/Okinoumi
M1-5: Kiribayama/Yutakayama/Terunofuji
M6-10: Wakatakakage/Kagayaki/Aoiyama
M11+: Kotoshogiku/Kyokutaisei/Ichinojo

Gonna cry if I can't get my six-syllable boy.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




I enjoyed watching a lot in July but not really at a point where I recognize more then like Hakuho and Enho by name.

Mostly going by names I think sounds cool, and also all three -fuji

Y/O: Hakuho/Asanoyama/Kakuryu
S/K: Shodai/Daieisho/Endo
M1-5: Terunofuji/Hokutofuji/Takarafuji
M6-10: Aoiyama/Ryuden/Wakatakakage
M11+: Ishiura/Tobizaru/Shohozan

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Sub Rosa posted:

I enjoyed watching a lot in July but not really at a point where I recognize more then like Hakuho and Enho by name.

Mostly going by names I think sounds cool, and also all three -fuji

M1-5: Terunofuji/Hokutofuji/Takarafuji

This guy gets it.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
is there a deadline day

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Sub Rosa posted:

I enjoyed watching a lot in July but not really at a point where I recognize more then like Hakuho and Enho by name.

Mostly going by names I think sounds cool, and also all three -fuji

Y/O: Hakuho/Asanoyama/Kakuryu
S/K: Shodai/Daieisho/Endo
M1-5: Terunofuji/Hokutofuji/Takarafuji
M6-10: Aoiyama/Ryuden/Wakatakakage
M11+: Ishiura/Tobizaru/Shohozan

Good call. All the fujis are cool dudes

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Foehammer007 posted:

is there a deadline day

Yeah, I'm gonna do the draft on Saturday before the basho, so let's try and get all entries in by Friday the 11th.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
" Injured Yokozuna Hakuhou (right knee) has yet to resume training, raising fears he will not be ready for the basho. He prefers to be treated for the injury and heal completely, after undergoing endoscopic surgery in August. He is doing basic exercises but is far from doing the fundamental suriashi and shiko.

Rikishi-kai representative Kotoshougiku visited Oguruma oyakata at the Kkan today, asking to lift the degeiko ban, citing the fact that sekitori that have only a few opponents to face at their heya cannot train properly. Oguruma answered that if even one of them contract the disease as a result, the whole basho will be in danger of being canceled. "We will be doing whatever the Kyokai decides, of course. Still, maybe they can allow degeiko during the odd months when there is no basho. We need to think outside of the box.." said Kotoshougiku. "



:stonk:

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Man, that sucks about Hakuho. Do we think he's holding out for 2021 to still do the dohyo-iri at the rescheduled Olympics?

Also I'm torn about degeiko. It makes total sense for the kyokai to be very cautious about COVID, but it's gotta suck real bad to be in a small heya with basically no one to practice with.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Brut posted:

September 13th.

Oh i got time then.

Diplomat
Dec 14, 2009


Y/O: Asanoyama / Takakeisho / Hakuho
S/K: Shodai / Mitakeumi / Daieisho
M1-5: Hokutofuji / Takanosho / Terunofuji
M6-10: Ryuden / Kagayaki / Enho
M11+: Chiyotairyu / Kotoshogiku / Ishiura

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror
https://twitter.com/majohammajoster/status/1300845616579321857

buttzuke

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Lookit this top squad of winners

Y/O: Kakuryu / Asanoyama / Takakeisho
S/K: Daieisho / Mitakeumi / Okinoumi
M1-5: Tamawashi / Myogiryu / Yutakayama
M6-10: Takayasu / Tokushoryu / Kagayaki
M11+: Meisei / Kotoshogiku / Ishiura

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Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

Robviously posted:

IRL stuff kept me from doing this last Basho but looking forward to fat men fighting again

Y/O: Hakuho/Kakuryu/Takaeisho
S/K: Okinoumi/Shodai/Endo
M1-5: Yukatayama/Hokotofuji/Toshinoshin
M6-10: Wakatakatakatakatakatakatakakage/Onosho/Kotoeko
M11+: Kyokotaisei/Chihotairyu/Ichinojo

pretty questionable imo

Fluffdaddy posted:

Its been awhile but I am finally able to watch Sumo again

Y/O: Asanoyama/Hakuho/Kakuryu
S/K: Shodai/Endo/Mitakeumi
M1-5: Terunofuji/Tochinoshin/Myogiryu
M6-10: Onosho/Enho/Aoiyama
M11+: Ichinojo/Kasai/Ishiura

oh man... did you guys not see him go 2 and 13 in the last basho? worst result of anyone in makuuchi haha

maybe you guys know something that i dont, but i think hes gonna be waaaay down in juryo after this tournament

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