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Zedhe Khoja posted:Looks like the way you convert to Hellenism is you continually reform heresies that slowly bring it in line with Hellenisms doctrines to reduce the price over the course of several life-times then convert once it's cheap enough. Right now streamers are just screaming that it's impossible when they look at the piety cost. I appreciate the idea of Ship of Theseusing your nobles and peasants into restoring full on Greco-Roman paganism. "Oh no, Bishop, if you interpret this one passage correctly in the original Greek, it clearly says that we should still be making animal sacrifices to
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The strategy games product manager posted this about the release time on Paradox's forum:quote:We usually launch our games at 18:00 CET, because that coincides with the start of the work day at Valve. Its just a peace of mind thing to make sure there is support from all partners involved. Recently we've tried other times, but it depends on what the team feels comfortable with.
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Dramicus posted:achtually, he doesn't have a breastplate You're forgetting the special breastplate under the chainmail!! Gotta make those nips pop.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:https://globaltimekeeper.com/countd...ln=en&cl=3&bg=1 thank you m'lord/m'lady/m'yeoman
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Popete posted:I haven't played play any CK game but I really got into HOI4 after bouncing off EU. We'll see how this goes but I'm pretty excited to give it a shot cause I've heard so much praise for CK2. This will basically be nothing like HoI4, it’s mostly a game about your family and not even about any particular country. Most people like to become King/Queen of a country and lead it, but it’s really about your dynasty’s progress.
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Gort posted:Huh. I can install it on Game Pass right now. I could if the app didn't think I had content restrictions, as a middle-aged person?
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I am at work until 4 PM local time (7 hours from now) and it is going to be the longest work day of my life. I tried to convince my principal that third graders would love learning about European history through this, but she wasn’t having it.
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Jose posted:Oh well since I'll be away from my PC for a week as of tomorrow at least everyone will have longer to form opinions when I next ask Play it, Jose, play it immediately. It's great. I mean I haven't played it yet since it's one hour away still, but I'm hyped enough to recommend you to play it. With me, preferably, one of us can be king and the other, you know, the other thing.
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Arbite posted:So is linking the Monarch's Journey stuff done via signing in to a paradox account on the launcher or what? To probably answer my own question, it looks like that's how the information is stored so it shouldn't be much of a problem even if you're changing PCs.
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canepazzo posted:To tide you over the next 56 minutes, the CK3 wiki is live. Hm, interesting. https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Innovations There are Eras tied to tech, it's pretty interesting/curious how the earlier era, Tribal. has a minimum year of 476. (Which I assume is earliest date it can be reached.) I wonder if that means they might intend for a DLC to eventually push the start date so early that a 1000-year long game is possible. (Or maybe it's a date they just picked with no bearing on actual/planned mechanics.) (Or maybe it's a bone they threw to the developers of the Bronze Age mod, which I heard have been working on modding the game for a while now.) I do like how there's a bunch of cultural/regional innovations though, seems like a decent way of weaving the cultural exclusive units into the tech tree more seamlessly. e: Also I guess it confirms something I've seen mentioned offhand before, embarking units onto ships costs gold now. (Since they are buying/building them on-site, instead of you having to maintain a navy perpetually, for the time being.) Longships have a -75% gold embark cost. SubNat fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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Thank you whoever it was that reminded me that the game is on Xbox Game Pass (on PC). I had just pre-ordered the royal edition on GMG and was able to cancel the order/start the refund process.
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So according to the wiki they have a tool for exporting Maya and Photoshop stuff to ck3, for people who know what they are talking about, does that mean noble modders will likely be able to give us new clothes and stuff? Or is that not really part of it?
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SubNat posted:Hm, interesting. I believe they said they were getting bugs when it didn’t have a min date so they just came up with one around some event that I can’t remember.
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Anno posted:I believe they said they were getting bugs when it didn’t have a min date so they just came up with one around some event that I can’t remember. 476 would be for the fall of the Roman Empire, I imagine. canepazzo fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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canepazzo posted:476 would be for the fall of the Roman Empire, I imagine. Sounds suitably significant!
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Gentleman Baller posted:So according to the wiki they have a tool for exporting Maya and Photoshop stuff to ck3, for people who know what they are talking about, does that mean noble modders will likely be able to give us new clothes and stuff? Or is that not really part of it? Yup, but we'll have to wait for someone to either figure out how to load the actual assets into a mod, or have the devs give out an overview. The discussion around one of the modding dev diaries has confirmed that it'll be possible to import clothing and accessories that way though, yeah. I'm just waiting to see what limitations it has, and how much scripting is required to accompany simple stuff like clothing. (Or if all you need to do is define what cultures/social classes use an outfit and slap it in.) e: To clarify, the exporter handled the process of taking a model from maya and making a .mesh the engine can use. But I haven't seen any discussion about the actual scripting part needed to make the game load+use them. Especially so for the flexes/morphs for people/heads, since that is also an option. Elven or Orcish features that can plug into the genetics system they already have in place. SubNat fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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canepazzo posted:476 would be for the fall of the Roman Empire, I imagine. No no no, the fall of the Roman Empire in 1453 is the end date!
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canepazzo posted:To tide you over the next 56 minutes, the CK3 wiki is live. Oooooh, primogeniture and ultimogeniture both require late medieval innovations!
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What start date is everyone going for in their first game? I’m less familiar with pre-1066 stuff and didn’t really play the early starts on CK2 but since they’re in from the base game now might try it out. Ireland seems to still be tutorial island either way.
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Dramicus posted:This will basically be nothing like HoI4, it’s mostly a game about your family and not even about any particular country. Most people like to become King/Queen of a country and lead it, but it’s really about your dynasty’s progress. Yeah that was my understanding of it and I'm down with that. I like the idea of managing a family and rising up thru the ranks or being murdered. Is there really any nation building? Can you declare war or invade other nations? Are there even armies?
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The pre-1066 stuff tends to be way blobbier and I was never much of a fan. That said woah at primogeniture requiring late medieval.
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londonmoose posted:What start date is everyone going for in their first game? I’m less familiar with pre-1066 stuff and didn’t really play the early starts on CK2 but since they’re in from the base game now might try it out. Ireland seems to still be tutorial island either way. Ireland in 867 is significantly harder because of vikings raids.
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Torrannor posted:Oooooh, primogeniture and ultimogeniture both require late medieval innovations! no primogeniture before 1200 then, at the earliest. It's going to be tough 
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Torrannor posted:Oooooh, primogeniture and ultimogeniture both require late medieval innovations! Yeah, there's going to be a lot more sibling thunderdome than in CK2 where everyone scrabbled out of gavelkind as fast as possible.
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For the last 30 min until launch, Paradox has a pre-launch stream: https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive
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SubNat posted:For the last 30 min until launch, Paradox has a pre-launch stream: When you go to a fancy dress party and discover you're the only one who has put in maximum effort
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Captain Oblivious posted:The pre-1066 stuff tends to be way blobbier and I was never much of a fan. An immediate thought would be that one would slightly cancel out the other, but I guess that depends on what special laws and succession rules are in place for the usual blob suspects.
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SubNat posted:(Excellent explanation of face/clothing modding stuff) Ahh that makes a lot of sense, thanks. I managed to resist hoping this stuff was possible ever since I saw they were using 3d models for the game but since they have absolutely nailed basically everything else from what I've seen I can't help but be excited at the possibilities.
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Supposedly the only real issue as far as blobbing is the Byzantines because they start with Primogeniture. Presumably that's an issue that'll be fixed when they get their DLC with their special government.
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Popete posted:Yeah that was my understanding of it and I'm down with that. I like the idea of managing a family and rising up thru the ranks or being murdered. Yes and yes and yes. It has all of that, but you will see that in the beginning, you will need to get used to the idea of losing territory. Most cultures don't start with the stereotypical hereditary rules of "oldest son gets everything", that's an innovation you need to unlock and it might take a couple centuries. So in the beginning you might conquer and develop some land and then lose it upon succession, especially if you have multiple sons, as the territory will get divided between them. So at the beginning you should look for some "core" land that you will focus on developing and invest your effort in ensuring that your primary heir gets that land. eventually you will start to unlock technologies that allow you to centralize your power more, and you can look to expanding your "core" land further. It's totally possible to start the game, conquer half of Europe with your first character, and then lose 80% of it when he dies, like Alexander the Great. Stable kingdoms and Empires only start emerging around the 1100-1200's
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