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Arglebargle III posted:I like that it's four episodes in and 9/11* hasn't happened. This is a good point and I hope they have the tiniest bit of restraint to not make everything some dark lovely plot.
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Arglebargle III posted:I like that it's four episodes in and 9/11* hasn't happened. Episode 6 is just a VHS recording of the actual 9/11 for 24 minutes.
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HD DAD posted:Episode 6 is just a VHS recording of the actual 9/11 for 24 minutes. *Mariner yawns theatrically* Oh man are you guys still watching this? Boy this sure is lame right?? Bazinga!
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Arglebargle III posted:I like that it's four episodes in and 9/11* hasn't happened. That's a really good point. Also while not quite on the same scale there was that mining colony getting shot up by the Klingons in Discovery, complete with screaming children.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:One thing I've seen very little of, is people going "here is what I thought/expected/hoped the show would be." It's not like Trek's never done comedy before, it's just never been a whole series of it. Even stuffy old TNG could laugh a little sometimes. "Mr. Crusher, take us back to Betazed. ...warp nine." I guess my answer is, if I were in charge of Star Trek, I don't think I'd do a whole series centered on comedy. I feel like the humor in Trek worked in part because we're seeing people who are normally depicted handling serious situations being confronted by something silly. I'm perfectly fine with comedy episodes; hell, I got someone hooked on TOS by way of A Piece Of The Action! It also worked because we liked the characters, and... I don't like Boimler or Mariner so far. :/ Rutherford and Tandi are okay! But maybe me not liking the two main leads is a big factor of why the show isn't fully clicking with me.
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Maybe it's off camera syndrome, but I think I'm enjoying the upper decks cast more then the lower decks. Boimler I like immensely, but hits a little too close to home.
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shades of eternity posted:Maybe it's off camera syndrome, but I think I'm enjoying the upper decks cast more then the lower decks. In the other 10%, he's more like Arnold J Rimmer.
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Payndz posted:"The guy who has a dream and wants to do everything properly to achieve it but is constantly hosed over by circumstances or the assholes around him" is like the lead character of 90% of sitcoms. To be fair Boimer's a bit of both.
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Payndz posted:"The guy who has a dream and wants to do everything properly to achieve it but is constantly hosed over by circumstances or the assholes around him" is like the lead character of 90% of sitcoms. There's a little Rimmer in all of us. :p but can we have phasers then? (his one amazing skill shown in the entire series.)
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If his cybernetic murdercompetence in a simulation isn't a setup for a moment of heroism later the writers have hosed up.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:One thing I've seen very little of, is people going "here is what I thought/expected/hoped the show would be." Snow Cone Capone posted:Yes, some of the LDS humor does seem geared more towards 21st-century American sensibilities than 24th-century post-scarcity human sensibilities. So what should be done instead?
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Tiggum posted:Futurama but in the Star Trek setting? The Orville but animated? Red Dwarf but the rest of the crew aren't dead? You know, something funny. Pretty much this. I don't mind Lower Decks but I feel like it's main flaw is just not being as funny as it thinks it is.
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A dry Venture Bros-esque character comedy about a lovely failcrew that delivers on the premise of the opening credits
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I do admit while I'm warmer on the show than some of the goons, it's hard for the episode contents to match the perfection of the shot where the Cerritos just peaces out on the Romulans when the Cube vibe checks their shields one time.
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Tiggum posted:Futurama but in the Star Trek setting? The Orville but animated? Red Dwarf but the rest of the crew aren't dead? You know, something funny. Red Dwarf OK but guaranteed if the show was like the other 2 people would be complaining "it's just Futurama with Transporters instead of the tube system" Also Futurama is way more irreverent with actual sci-fi stuff and I don't think the style of humor would work that well at all in a Trek setting.
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I mean, I think a dry humor would have fit the franchise far more than an irreverent one, but I'm still happy with what we've got. There aren't many dry animated shows out there that aren't super niche, but I think that Brendan Small could have made a show that felt a bit more fitting to the material. Still, I'll take fun and wacky over potentially bland and underwritten if dry wasn't pulled off well.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/ikkk0t/ds9s_james_darren_vic_fontaine_is_recovering_from/ Vic Fontaine recovering from covid.
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Clerks: The Animated Series but on a starship.
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Powered Descent posted:Clerks: The Animated Series but on a starship. who is driving spaceship? oh my god, waterbear is driving, how can that be!
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Powered Descent posted:Clerks: The Animated Series but on a starship. Only if Jay and Silent Bob can be Bajorans selling Jum Jum sticks.
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MikeJF posted:Hah, I notice that's the Vancouver, and Freeman mentioned that she and the tellarite served on the Illinois years ago. So it's a running gag that all the background ships in Trek are just uncreatively named after cities, not just the California-class? They're probably all references to the crew of the show. Mike McMahan is from Chicago, and the animation for the show is done in Vancouver.
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Sexual Aluminum posted:Only if Jay and Silent Bob can be Bajorans selling Jum Jum sticks. They need a ship and a transporter so they can randomly show up to beat the tar out of cardassians.
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Powered Descent posted:Clerks: The Animated Series but on a starship. Outside on the hull. “Why are we walking like this?”
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The second episode of the series is an homage to "Shades of Grey"
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https://twitter.com/glaad/status/1301218466490449920?s=20 The replies are pretty lovely.
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xerxus posted:https://twitter.com/glaad/status/1301218466490449920?s=20 How do you show non binary on screen?
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By having a non-binary actor portray the character and have other characters use they/them pronouns?
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It’s been done in Billions, check it out.
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Mokotow posted:It’s been done in Billions, check it out. Also the new She-ra
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The character Gray is an unjoined Trill, which is neat and gels with the hints we got from the earlier previews.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The character Gray is an unjoined Trill, which is neat and gels with the hints we got from the earlier previews. That’s not a very alien name. :/
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The_Doctor posted:That’s not a very alien name. :/  
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We've had plenty of non binary aliens tho. there was that whole planet of non binary people. in tng
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I mean in retrospect aren't the Trill an allegory for trans people?
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more like transplanted people
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FlamingLiberal posted:I mean in retrospect aren't the Trill an allegory for trans people? Sure feels like it. But the great thing about societal progress is that what once had to be coded in order to be accepted by audiences can now be explicit.
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feedmyleg posted:Sure feels like it. But the great thing about societal progress is that what once had to be coded in order to be accepted by audiences can now be explicit. At least we got some cool aliens from it though
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I don't think the Trill are one-dimensional enough to be an allegory for anything. Kind of like how Bajor and Cardassia are an occupied place and a colonizer, you can make them into a lot of things if you squint. Good fiction with a moral message can be relevant to more than one real life circumstance.
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Alright, that was EASILY my favourite LDS so far. If we need to sacrifice the cold open to get a fun plot then transport that poo poo off the starboard bow and lock phasers and photon torpedoes! Like I can’t come up with a single complaint. Even as annoying as Mariner was being was tempered with SOME backstory and honestly wasn’t even as bad as other episodes. So good.
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I think if the 2nd season of Lower Decks cuts out all the pointless references to previous Star Trek episodes then it will be more fun to watch.
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