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that article posted:But film finance attorney Schuyler Moore says a Marvel star wouldn’t likely require a medical examination for insurance purposes. I can buy that for most movies but I can't believe a role like a superhero that probably requires a whole bunch of physical training wouldn't require an exam. Wild.
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TwoPair posted:I can buy that for most movies but I can't believe a role like a superhero that probably requires a whole bunch of physical training wouldn't require an exam. Wild. It's wild that he was when able to do all this while he was sick. I mean, who would have even thought to give him a cancer screening?
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Barry Convex posted:no news on what Marvel Studios is actually going to do (obviously, given that it's only been a few days), but it's surprising that Boseman was apparently able to keep his diagnosis from everyone at Marvel and Disney I remember reading an article about UK actor Frazer Hines (Doctor Who, Outlander) who had battled cancer for a decade. He would go in for treatment in the mornings, then go off and do TV appearances or perform in stage plays later that day. He never told anyone until well after he got the all-clear, because he knew that if it got out, he wouldn't get any work, because no one would want to risk hiring him.
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But also: Good for him, there's no reason why your job needs to know your private health information unless you want them too.
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It's not like they could force him to give up his blood. His doctors likely agreed that he was fit and healthy enough when he was cast and that was enough.
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Soonmot posted:But also: Good for him, there's no reason why your job needs to know your private health information unless you want them too. I think being a top-billed actor on a film is a little different. If you get hurt it's going to shut down production and impact a lot of other people. This isn't blaming Boseman, it's just very complicated and we obviously don't know the full details. If he was healthy enough to get cleared by his doctors then whatever. Arist fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Sep 2, 2020 |
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Arist posted:I think being a top-billed actor on a film is a little different. If you get hurt it's going to shut down production and impact a lot of other people. This isn't blaming Boseman, it's just very complicated and we obviously don't know the full details. If he was healthy enough to get cleared by his doctors then whatever. Your health is still a personal matter. No one except you has the right to know if your sick or why you're sick.
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I'm sure they just assume that if you're accepting the pre production training regimen they force on all the mcu actors, and you complete it successfully, that you're healthy enough to do the movie
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Sep 2, 2020 18:23
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Yeah, I don't have cancer and I couldn't do that poo poo if you put a gun to my head.
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Let's say Disney knew about his diagnosis (I doubt they did though, but let's just say they did). That would mean that they probably put together a plan in case the unthinkable happened, but it would be bad optics to announce that plan so soon. Best to just act like you're reeling and trying to figure it out, all the while knowing exactly how you're going to proceed. Business is business, especially if you're a multi-national megacorporation.
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I understand the struggle to keep going when there's such sadness and turmoil now, but when the dust settles, they've got four films and doubtless a bunch of extra footage to mine dialogue from, and the character wore a full body suit. They can still give him a big battle out before he's dramatically murdered by... Doom or Namor or whatever, then one CGI or recycled footage face shot, one Iron Man sized funeral, and Shuri invents a nanotech fluid approximation of the flowers and goes after justice. She doesn't even need to be the leader of Wakanda, she's already got the know how and she already made all the tech stuff anyway. Nakia, also consumed by grief and anger, is her new partner. Comedy side note is M'Baku, forced to take charge but still honor T'Challa's mandates for growth, while really wanting to just shut everything down and get back to the Jabari. Okoye keeps him on track, and works with him when they fight Kiber the Cruel, recontextualized as an ever harder line Jabari traditionalist.
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Have Michael B. Jordan take over as T'Challa. (Not Killmonger.)
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Aphrodite posted:Have Michael B. Jordan take over as T'Challa. But since Marvel is a Disney joint...
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theironjef posted:I understand the struggle to keep going when there's such sadness and turmoil now, but when the dust settles, they've got four films and doubtless a bunch of extra footage to mine dialogue from, and the character wore a full body suit. They can still give him a big battle out before he's dramatically murdered by... Doom or Namor or whatever, then one CGI or recycled footage face shot, one Iron Man sized funeral, and Shuri invents a nanotech fluid approximation of the flowers and goes after justice. She doesn't even need to be the leader of Wakanda, she's already got the know how and she already made all the tech stuff anyway. Nakia, also consumed by grief and anger, is her new partner. I feel like "getting murderer by a villain to put over how badass they are, especially if said villain is portrayed by a white actor" is absolutely 100% the wrong loving way to handle it. FilthyImp posted:I woke up to an article where John Boyega called Disney Execs out for giving all the story to the white kids in the movie and sidelining the poc, and I think he'd do wonderful things if he has as much input at Boseman apparently did. John Boyega got hosed over so hard and it's 100% understandable that he'd be pissed. I mean admittedly so did every actor who wasn't Adam Driver but Boyega more than most.
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FilthyImp posted:I woke up to an article where John Boyega called Disney Execs out for giving all the story to the white kids in the movie and sidelining the poc, and I think he'd do wonderful things if he has as much input at Boseman apparently did. I feel like even though Marvel is under Disney, that Feige makes a shitload of difference. I haven't heard a bad thing about the guy and as the moves have more success, he seems to be genuine in wanting to have more diversity and let the directors have freedom to put their own touches on the films. I imagine working under a Marvel film would be different from working under Kennedy.
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Feige doesn't report to any of the people Boyega would have issues with, so it's not impossible no.
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ImpAtom posted:John Boyega got hosed over so hard and it's 100% understandable that he'd be pissed. Even Adam Driver was kinda just making the most of what he had. Kylo Ren having literally no lines for the last third of the film is so weird.
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Aphrodite posted:Have Michael B. Jordan take over as T'Challa. Could they resurrect and redeem Killmonger, I wonder
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Aphrodite posted:Have Michael B. Jordan take over as T'Challa. Go with the Face/Off route? I agree.
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Fangz posted:Could they resurrect and redeem Killmonger, I wonder Resurrect? Absolutely. Redeem? I don't think so. It's not that Killmonger is beyond redemption, but it feels like something he doesn't even want. I'm not saying he would have fought alongside Thanos in Endgame, but as soon as the dust settled he'd be back to plotting the overthrow of oppressive (white) governments. He's that good kind of villain that is right in his vision, if not in his method. Overthrowing racist governments and bringing freedom to oppressed people - Good goal. Achieving that goal by use of overwhelming technological force - Efficient, but problematic. If somehow death changed him in such a way that he still fights for freedom for belittled people, and even specifically black people, but his approach is more nuanced, and a little less murder-y then maybe. I'm all for more Michael B Jordan, and I want more Black Panther, but I don't know if those should be combined in that way. However, if we are looking at a re-cast, what about wildcard Ray Fisher? Get some good press by hiring on the guy snubbed by DC/WB and was treated lovely by execs/Wheadon to hear him tell it. And since the DCCU is probably not going to keep half the JL stuff it might be a good boost for his career. The bad part is of course having to try and fill in the void left by Boseman as someone upthread mentioned who ever does it is going to be under a lot of scrutiny.
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Jesus christ The Batman shut down again due to COVID because Robert Pattinson got it https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/09/robert-pattinson-the-batman-coronavirus
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That means he probably caught if before they resumed and spread it all over too.
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Arist posted:Jesus christ The Batman shut down again due to COVID Can't wait to see Tenet in a theater this weekend, oh boy!
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I suppose Batman's mask *does* fail to cover up his mouth...
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If he was playing Moon Knight like he should be instead this might not have happened
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Wonder if this will lead to mandatory cancer screenings on studio productions
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The producers might want something like that but a policy change along those lines would have to be negotiated with SAG-AFTRA I'd imagine, and hopefully we'd vote that down.
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Fangz posted:I suppose Batman's mask *does* fail to cover up his mouth... Hakkesshu posted:Wonder if this will lead to mandatory cancer screenings on studio productions
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Imagine you get a big break out role as a lead in a new marvel movie, but then they do a cancer screening and that's how you find out you have terminal cancer.
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Retro Futurist posted:Imagine you get a big break out role as a lead in a new marvel movie, but then they do a cancer screening and that's how you find out you have terminal cancer. To: Kumail@gmail.com Subject: IDEA For the Big Sick 2!!! 😛
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I have a friend who used to do insurance for films (mostly tv) and such so I will ask her and get back to you guys about the insurance aspect.
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https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1301949796081696769?s=19 I am getting the very real feeling Ray is torching his DC career here, but good for him
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It's really interesting to me that they'd go full damage control mode and actively seek to protect Johns by going full in on blaming the others. Like, of course they'd do that, but also, woooooooow
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GJ obviously means a great deal to them considering all the projects he has ongoing and being one of the biggest names in comics, so its as unsurprising as it is disappointing they try to cover his arse. In addition to Ray's thing there were also several women accusing him of inappropriate behavior on IG and twitter, for whatever that's worth.
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Joss is already toast career wise so it makes sense DC would try to use him as a scapegoat, but good on Ray for telling them to gently caress off
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McCloud posted:https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1301949796081696769?s=19
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