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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Varinn posted:

the idea as i understand it (and it is thrown around too much) is that the concern isnt just about leftists adopting nationalist views, its about nationalists co-opting the parts of leftism that they want


its tucker carlson getting into socialized medicine to appeal to his poor, aging audience, while making sure they know who 'deserves to get it'
that would be it moreso in theory; however, in practice the way it is used 99% of the online by shitlibs is largely to deride 'left' as a praxis2fash pipeline or w/e because someone said a bad thing about nancy pelosi/dnc. i haven't seen cucker tarlson even advocate "medicaid4all-but-only-citizens" nor anyone else on the right with any sort of real politicomedia power, that has been some really dumb boogeyman poo poo and conservatives are still doubling down and appealing to their massive corporate donor base writ large with snailtrail of Q-annon, but the sad reality that even if they did and that was A Thing it would be overwhelming the best thing that ever happened to like 200+ million americans than in the past 50+ years and would indirectly greatly bolster labor for not just 'citizens' but also everyone by removing the sword of damocles from the equation--which is exactly why it will not happen under the right anyways.

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studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

we're absolutely going to see tucker and co start attacking biden from the left on stuff as things heat up. its extremely easy to say "yeah okay we'll do that poo poo (they wont)" when the democratic challenger is a moderate republican. they dont have to actually do the thing to campaign on it, and you cant campaign AGAINST them on it if your answer is "well we wont do it either."

and then they'll absolutely get a bunch of gormless idiots who go "listen, say what you will about holden bloodfeast's ideas about eugenics, but at least he's saying he'll do medicare for all"

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Victory Position posted:

an egg is a seed, much like the legumes and pulses that people so love to cook in C-SPAM :twisted:

The solid parts of an egg are meat and the liquid parts are dairy

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
the only thing nazbol gang has ever produced is a big man tyrone vid. 100% meme ideology

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the republican party is never going to embrace government-run healthcare barring a truly major realignment lol, individual pundits might but that poo poo is just not on the table and nobody is going to confuse them for being on the left

rassamblement national exists, nobody thinks they're left wing

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

yes thats why i put (they wont) in there. without any serious options put forth by actual leftists, you'll see them run on these ideas because the democrats wont actually challenge them on it. it doesnt matter that they wont actually do it

trump literally ran on keeping social security strong in 2016 and then wrecked it. and he's probably going to do the same thing this year

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Varinn posted:

trump literally ran on keeping social security strong in 2016 and then wrecked it. and he's probably going to do the same thing this year

i thought the ss wrecking was done just now with the voluntary payroll tax suspension, what was before

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Varinn posted:

we're absolutely going to see tucker and co start attacking biden from the left on stuff as things heat up.

nah he's gone all in on the law and order poo poo. it's basically the one thing republicans have that kinda has any pull against how badly covid's been handled

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
Really enjoyed (if you can call hearing about something as blackpilled as libertarians winning a decades long battle to completely destroy the state and kill us all under corporate death squads "enjoyment") Trueanon's Koch brothers episodes. Too many people stop at them being a liberal bogeyman of "They want to privatize the government so they can make money!" which is true but not even close to portraying the horror of what libertarians want.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

i do wish they'd emphasise more how the ideology and the corporate sides of the push synergise and how foundational that poo poo is to the modern right's class project. they sort of brush up against it a couple of times, but i'd really like for them to spell it out

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Ytlaya posted:

The solid parts of an egg are meat and the liquid parts are dairy

Shells aren't meat!

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Doc Hawkins posted:

Shells aren't meat!

they are and now's the time to wonder why everyone keeps throwing away perfectly good egg meat

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
rich in calcium! nice and crunchy!!

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
As a matter of fact, you can grind them up and give them back to your chickens.

Varinn posted:

the idea as i understand it (and it is thrown around too much) is that the concern isnt just about leftists adopting nationalist views, its about nationalists co-opting the parts of leftism that they want
They're extremely bad at it, though, and usually can't even be bothered to pretend to care. Besides Carlson, the case study everyone points to is the TWP, which did nothing but brawl with protesters before imploding in the Night of the Wrong Wives. AFAIK none of the explicitly National Socialist organizations in the US can even be bothered to pay lip service to any socialist ideas.

So basically, I'm not convinced that accusations of left-fascism are anything other than a liberal tactic to shout down leftists suggesting that e.g. being absorbed in Twitter drama alienates us from the people we should be recruiting.

Varinn posted:

we're absolutely going to see tucker and co start attacking biden from the left on stuff as things heat up. its extremely easy to say "yeah okay we'll do that poo poo (they wont)" when the democratic challenger is a moderate republican. they dont have to actually do the thing to campaign on it, and you cant campaign AGAINST them on it if your answer is "well we wont do it either."

and then they'll absolutely get a bunch of gormless idiots who go "listen, say what you will about holden bloodfeast's ideas about eugenics, but at least he's saying he'll do medicare for all"
I don't expect Carlson et al attacking Biden from the left to have any more purchase than, say, Limbaugh talking about how welfare is bad for minorities because it makes them dependents.

I think that our present situation is too chaotic for anyone to confidently predict that If Biden In 2020, Then Welfare Nazi in 2024. It would be quite a feat for someone running on a platform of Medicare 4 All Whites to take power in the Republican Party.

Halloween Jack has issued a correction as of 19:59 on Sep 2, 2020

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

I'm listening to an old epsiode of E1 and everybody losing their poo poo when it becomes clear that Felix's character is just a combination of the three things he knows about is great

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

MAGNetic AttITUDE


He learned something else beyond the entire histories of MMA and the House of Saud? Good for him!

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

tinstaach posted:

He learned something else beyond the entire histories of MMA and the House of Saud? Good for him!

The character was just what if rich Piana and Karl Ove Knausgard were one person, and that person was a Zionist

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Gripweed posted:

I'm listening to an old epsiode of E1 and everybody losing their poo poo when it becomes clear that Felix's character is just a combination of the three things he knows about is great

which ep

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

it may be the live poetry reading episode? he did his knausgard character there iirc

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
this weeks ep of you can’t win is really funny

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018


100 - Chaos Mode

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Shipon posted:

Really enjoyed (if you can call hearing about something as blackpilled as libertarians winning a decades long battle to completely destroy the state and kill us all under corporate death squads "enjoyment") Trueanon's Koch brothers episodes. Too many people stop at them being a liberal bogeyman of "They want to privatize the government so they can make money!" which is true but not even close to portraying the horror of what libertarians want.

When Brace said the left is full of losers who lost the game 100 years ago and will never correct course in time to prevent the right's ultimate victory I wish I could say he's wrong, but lol

Leftism truly is a blackpilled ideology. I don't know how people manage to maintain it their whole lives. Probably why we see so many become libs in old age - if you can't beat em, join em.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1300893477715103744

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Somehow the "register all activists with police" org doesn't like socialism, strange.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

They like to say they're "unpolitical" which besides being ludicrous is disingenuous as George Hallam, one of the movement's founders, once said in an interview that yeah they're obviously left wing and largely anarchist.

I think they're a bunch of naive liberals and anarchists, probably not an op, and they're never going to accomplish anything, which might be just as well as a lot of them are weird neomalthusian austerity people.

Grevling has issued a correction as of 05:27 on Sep 3, 2020

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Grevling posted:


I think they're a bunch of naive liberals and anarchists, probably not an op

:thunk:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
when someone asks me about what i think of pete buttigieg's new podcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvpPosKe-I0

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
maybe at most podcast related by proxy but david graeber died
https://twitter.com/HKesvani/status/1301513399227092994


:smith:

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Honest Thief posted:

maybe at most podcast related by proxy but david graeber died
https://twitter.com/HKesvani/status/1301513399227092994


:smith:

2020 proceeds apace.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Wow, that was unexpected and sad.

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
this sucks man

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
his writing post-2008 gave me a huge push to put me where i am now, this is tremendously lovely. gently caress this.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

did trueanon ever do the tesla episode

Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.

gh0stpinballa posted:

did trueanon ever do the tesla episode

they had an interview with Azealia Banks, which is Tesla adjacent

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

gh0stpinballa posted:

did trueanon ever do the tesla episode

it would be extremely pleasing to find out whether or not Tesla's parts are so off-brand that they're not even CAPA or NSF-certified

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:

they had an interview with Azealia Banks, which is Tesla adjacent

oh yeah...i never listened, i heard it super awkward

THS
Sep 15, 2017

gh0stpinballa posted:

oh yeah...i never listened, i heard it super awkward

it was

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

gh0stpinballa posted:

oh yeah...i never listened, i heard it super awkward
yeah it wasn't good. it was just awkward all around.

also caught up on ghost stories, it's good. im also in the same way that true crime loving sucks dick and is boring as poo poo but i would say the real difference is poo poo like jeffrey dahmer or w/e is mostly just boring and uninteresting disconnected whereas years of lead crime is more an actual socio-historically relevant and actual conspiratorial because there's strings going every which way and that's actually interesting. i dont think you have much to worry about becoming true-crime adjacent

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
not all of matts streams are good but this one just now was extremely on point talking about john brown and the lack of today, and the sin of self-rationalization https://twitch.tv/videos/730401565

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Xaris posted:

yeah it wasn't good. it was just awkward all around.

also caught up on ghost stories, it's good. im also in the same way that true crime loving sucks dick and is boring as poo poo but i would say the real difference is poo poo like jeffrey dahmer or w/e is mostly just boring and uninteresting disconnected whereas years of lead crime is more an actual socio-historically relevant and actual conspiratorial because there's strings going every which way and that's actually interesting. i dont think you have much to worry about becoming true-crime adjacent

Lester Holt got his start as a B-stringer hosting those weird REAL LIFE PRISON shows they used to have on MSNBC weekends (not sure if they still do?)

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