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BurritoJustice posted:holy poo poo, I can't tell if Stormfront planned the housing estate massacre or she just got annoyed by the screaming and decided to just burn them all. crazy how quick it changed to her manufacturing a terrorist attack. plus it was definitely not a coincidence it was a whole house of PoC and she ended it off by slurring the guy as she killed him. I honestly think she killed the people cause they were black. And it was reinforced by her calling Kimikos brother a yellow bastard before snapping his neck. She is hella racist
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Seems like she's just her char from You're The Worst. Until episode 3. Haha, yeah I posted that when I'd only seen through episode 2 and then bam!
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Sep 4, 2020 14:26
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Caught the first couple of episodes, I was pissed at MM and Frenchie being so pro-Butcher in the first episode but in the second when they choose to stick with Hughie when Butcher tells them to abandon him was great. Also goddamn Homelander continues to be the most amazing and terrifying piece of poo poo. I'm not sure what I found more horrifying: lapping at the breastmilk, revealing that he'd heard Becca's conversation from miles away while he was wandering about her empty house, or just how cruel his punishment of Butcher was, showing him a tantalizing glimpse of his wife being alive then dumping him in a completely different state so now he KNOWS she is alive but has no idea where. Azhais posted:But she's right about Pippi Longstocking, that girl doesn't get enough credit Hell yeah, Pippi Longstocking rules 
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Sep 4, 2020 14:41
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Not crazy about redemption narrative for The Deep. I don't loving care how a rapist is made. I care that he's a rapist.
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Sep 4, 2020 16:09
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The Maeve stuff is very tense, and I'm worried about where that's going.GD_American posted:Not crazy about redemption narrative for The Deep. I don't loving care how a rapist is made. I care that he's a rapist. I don't think it's gonna be redemptive at all. He became a Scientologist but isn't even bothering to do the self-help stuff and he's gonna get let back into the Seven by Homelander over the objections of all the women.
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Sep 4, 2020 16:11
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I'm not so sure about that last one. The "....Sure." was fairly dismissive. Least he didn't deafen the dude like the Daredevil wannabe. drat.
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Sep 4, 2020 16:37
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Who doesn't like Mothers Milk?
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Sep 4, 2020 16:46
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Jerusalem posted:Caught the first couple of episodes, I was pissed at MM and Frenchie being so pro-Butcher in the first episode but in the second when they choose to stick with Hughie when Butcher tells them to abandon him was great. Jesus yeah....freakin Starr still knocks it out of the park every time. He really does such an insanely good job with every aspect with the Homelander. He was called a manchild and I don't think that is far off. He's like the worst stereotype of a goon with ultimate power. I like Stormfront making her nazi roots subtle at first. I'm only assuming nazi due to racist cleansing and her name is Stormfront which has very ... unfortunate tendencies. I also find her hot which is almost a divining rod for crazy and evil. You can give me weird looks but it is 100% accurate with fiction and real life. Doesn't matter if they play it good at first either. I'm fairly sure I have serious issues. GD_American posted:Not crazy about redemption narrative for The Deep. I don't loving care how a rapist is made. I care that he's a rapist. Homelander scares me. DogsInSpace! fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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Sep 4, 2020 17:35
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Bust Rodd posted:Yeah there are multiple reasons The Mandalorian was the breakout hit of 2019 but dragging out the excitement and the conversation over the course of 2 months was a huge factor. Compared to say, The Witcher, which people binged in a week, the song went viral, and everyone stopped talking about it after a few days. Yeah I think we're going to go back to more episodic pieces after the Mandalorian. It kept conversation going a lot more. The issue with that approach, however, is that Mandalorian was VERY episodic in a way VERY few "prestige" dramas are these days. In one episode of that show there is usually new characters, a conflict, and a resolution showing some growth in the story or characters. With other shows that are released all at once, especially in the fantasy / sci-fi genre, these days a single plot point will be stretched across multiple episodes.
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Sep 4, 2020 18:08
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Any character can have a redemption arc. A lovely person can learn to be less lovely. the deep has issues. Him coming to grow an acceptance of his gills just to have homelander call them disgusting cause he had a tear in his vest was brutal. The sure homelander gave the deep about coming back into the 7 was a no, without wanting to say no cause homelander didn't want to deal with the deep begging and making a scene. The deep will have a redemption arc, it will be lovely and long and he probably won't be forgiven by many people and it's something i'm interested in watching unravel this season
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Sep 4, 2020 18:21
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loving awesome first three episodes! My personal favorite was the Pippi Longstocking speech.  Also, no idea where they are going with the Deep, but I rather enjoy his arc so far.
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As someone who LOVED You're the Worst It is so good to see Aya back on tv Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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Sep 4, 2020 19:10
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https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/1301946311147548672?s=21
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Sep 4, 2020 19:20
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homelander could be the best villain on TV, every scene he's in... there's just so much menace and threat the scene when he's talking to maeve after she gets off the phone with her ex was terrifying. it feels like at any second he could snap and just kill people
Seven Hundred Bee fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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Sep 4, 2020 19:24
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:What? When was that, I think I missed it. It was a scene where there was a close-up of a light bulb, the camera centers on it and a prominent fly buzzes around and lands on it, then they zoom in on the scene-- I have to re-watch to get the episode and time frame
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Sep 4, 2020 19:33
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:homelander could be the best villain on TV, every scene he's in... there's just so much menace and threat the scene when he's talking to maeve after she gets off the phone with her ex was terrifying. it feels like at any second he could snap and just kill people Yeah plus how the first season shows his smiles and attempts to have a wholesome image is just misdirection forhow he really enjoys lording over / killing regular people.
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Sep 4, 2020 20:06
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:homelander could be the best villain on TV, every scene he's in... there's just so much menace and threat the scene when he's talking to maeve after she gets off the phone with her ex was terrifying. it feels like at any second he could snap and just kill people Yeah it really helps justify the terror that everyone feels around him. I'm not sure anyone else could pull this off so well. Maeve I feel so bad for. She's this all powerful wonder woman type who is legit terrified of what he will do to everyone around her. She knows he's a psychopathic monster who the world thinks is the golden boy. Nobody would believe her and he would just smile and wave, chop her girlfriend up in a million pieces then get the nobel peace prize and get hugged by children. The brutal way he killed NotDaredevil was shocking. This was just some guy who was genuinely thrilled to be there and idolized him just to be killed (I doubt he survived the splattering or the Vought cleanup afterwards) because Homelander decided he didn't want a cripple on the team. There is a delicate balancing act as you don't want Homelander to be the all powerful flawless villain nor over the top where it loses its teeth. Starr has this nuanced performance that just makes the graphic violence even more frightening.
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Sep 4, 2020 20:08
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DogsInSpace! posted:Yeah it really helps justify the terror that everyone feels around him. I'm not sure anyone else could pull this off so well. Maeve I feel so bad for. She's this all powerful wonder woman type who is legit terrified of what he will do to everyone around her. She knows he's a psychopathic monster who the world thinks is the golden boy. Nobody would believe her and he would just smile and wave, chop her girlfriend up in a million pieces then get the nobel peace prize and get hugged by children. The brutal way he killed NotDaredevil was shocking. This was just some guy who was genuinely thrilled to be there and idolized him just to be killed (I doubt he survived the splattering or the Vought cleanup afterwards) because Homelander decided he didn't want a cripple on the team. There is a delicate balancing act as you don't want Homelander to be the all powerful flawless villain nor over the top where it loses its teeth. Starr has this nuanced performance that just makes the graphic violence even more frightening. it was definitely a 'what the gently caress is the point of daredevil' given in the most brutal, horrifying way possible. or the abject terror you see in ashley when stormfront comes up when they're filming the commercial to announce she's joined the 7 - she's almost crying because she's so scared about what homelander is going to do to her. I cannot think of a comic book villain depicted so well, or who creates such tension in the viewer, as Homelander does. seriously - not in any other TV show or movie. YOU GUYS, YOU'RE THE REAL HEROES!
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Sep 4, 2020 20:26
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I love that homelander is such a loving psychopath that he couldn't even get a 9 year old boy on his side. Like goddamn, he's superman and he made a meek kid hate his loving guts in like a week. Also why wouldn't the US government just instantly seize all of Vaught's poo poo once they found out 1) they have a formula to create super humans and 2)they leaked it to terrorists. I imagine that would be something the government would want at all costs and would have solid enough justification that nobody could really stop them. DrManiac fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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Sep 4, 2020 20:34
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DogsInSpace! posted:Yeah it really helps justify the terror that everyone feels around him. I was surprised how many people stood up to Homelander so far this season. He got chewed out by Mr. Edgar, Stormfront is not remotely impressed by him, his son and Becca kicked him out of their house, Butcher called him a oval office and dropped a city block on his head. Starr is every bit as terrifying as ever in his performance and casual violence but I'm getting the feeling at some point this season Homelander will become an actual hero. It helps thay Aya Cash is killing it as a new, completely different type of monster.
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Sep 4, 2020 20:35
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CeeJee posted:I was surprised how many people stood up to Homelander so far this season. He got chewed out by Mr. Edgar, Stormfront is not remotely impressed by him, his son and Becca kicked him out of their house, Butcher called him a oval office and dropped a city block on his head. Starr is every bit as terrifying as ever in his performance and casual violence but I'm getting the feeling at some point this season Homelander will become an actual hero. It helps thay Aya Cash is killing it as a new, completely different type of monster. I think he's always been afraid of Mr. Edgar and I don't think Stormfront has seen him without the PR mask yet
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Sep 4, 2020 20:44
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I am absolutely loving seeing Homelander getting absolutely humbled in every way at every turn. You suck poo poo at understanding business, you suck poo poo as a father, none of your peers like you, your power level is being approached by random drugged up science experiment nobodies... just everything.
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Sep 4, 2020 20:45
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Are the plots of this show directly from the comics because I would love to read them but don't want to spoil this season.
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Sep 4, 2020 20:48
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Are the plots of this show directly from the comics because I would love to read them but don't want to spoil this season. No at this point they've pretty conclusively departed from the comics. There may be a few things there that they could use as the skeleton of future storylines, but there's no "oohhh Event X is coming" left.
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Sep 4, 2020 20:51
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GD_American posted:No at this point they've pretty conclusively departed from the comics. There may be a few things there that they could use as the skeleton of future storylines, but there's no "oohhh Event X is coming" left. Oh that is awesome! Thanks
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CeeJee posted:I was surprised how many people stood up to Homelander so far this season. He got chewed out by Mr. Edgar, Stormfront is not remotely impressed by him, his son and Becca kicked him out of their house, Butcher called him a oval office and dropped a city block on his head. Starr is every bit as terrifying as ever in his performance and casual violence but I'm getting the feeling at some point this season Homelander will become an actual hero. It helps thay Aya Cash is killing it as a new, completely different type of monster. I felt a whole lot of tension in that chewing out scene with Mr. Edgar because I don't think he fully understands Homelander. Yeah, Edgar controls the money and generally does have more power than Homelander in a broad sense, but I don't think he realizes Homelander will just melt somebody's face if they push him far enough, and Mr. Edgar was realllllllly pushing.
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Sep 4, 2020 21:11
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CeeJee posted:I was surprised how many people stood up to Homelander so far this season. He got chewed out by Mr. Edgar, Stormfront is not remotely impressed by him, his son and Becca kicked him out of their house, Butcher called him a oval office and dropped a city block on his head. Starr is every bit as terrifying as ever in his performance and casual violence but I'm getting the feeling at some point this season Homelander will become an actual hero. It helps thay Aya Cash is killing it as a new, completely different type of monster. Bear in mind that Homelander is that awful "Beta Male/Middle Manager that is convinced he is the true Alpha Male" except he has the powers of Superman and could destroy the planet if you got him angry enough. In his mind we are all ants and he deserves to be our God King. Mr Edgar is actually THE BIG HEAD CHEESE and treats HL like a King spanking his spoiled Prince. Even Homelander's bluster stops the moment Edgar puts him in his place. I think Edgar's "pause" with the 7 later is because Edgar does realize that, despite Homie being a typical wannabe Royal, the dude still has very dangerous powers so he doesn't want to push him far. Becca kicks him out of the house trying to be brave but we see how terrified she is later. She is smart enough to realize the worst thing you could do is show your fear. Homelander is also that kid who likes to torture bugs so she knows not to look like a bug. Stormfront has no idea what she is in for and just thinks sees the goody goody exterior and probably smells the insecurity. Again if it wasn't for his powers you would laugh at this guy and be glad he isn't your boss. I don't think she knows how dangerous he really is. People often underestimate danger. I think even Edgar doesn't fully appreciate how quickly HL can go off the rails but he certainly sees quite a bit of danger. Hubris. Butcher? He's unhinged. Maybe I'm reading that guy wrong but, before he found his wife in s1 finale, I was wondering how much he really grieved her and how much he used her to justify his own violence. Honestly I would be more worried if Butcher had Homelander's powers than the Homelander. I still don't fully buy his whole grieving husband routine and I love Karl Urban. Just something in his performance reeks of even darker menace and a desire to light poo poo on fire and chuckle at the screams. Urban also is good about bringing subtle bits to his roles. Watch Dredd if you haven't already.
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Sep 4, 2020 21:21
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3rd ep is best episode of this series Goddamn
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Sep 4, 2020 21:26
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I like that The team takes Hughies side in the conflict with Butcher, and also they really showcase what a poo poo head Butcher is and how unhinged he is
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Sep 4, 2020 21:35
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They spoiled the whale scene with the trailers. But goddamn, they didn't spoil the best part of working out their interpersonal issues inside the whale with that goddamned heart still beating
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Sep 4, 2020 21:35
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Can the thread title be renamed to "infected with a raging case of vagina"? That was a quote from ep2
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Sep 4, 2020 21:38
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Hollismason posted:I like that The team takes Hughies side in the conflict with Butcher, and also they really showcase what a poo poo head Butcher is and how unhinged he is Going out to get Karl Urban for the role was really brilliant.
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Sep 4, 2020 21:39
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So Stormfront is an actual literal Nazi right? With the references to Operation Paperclip and the random mentioning of an old superhero (Liberty), I'm guessing she joined up with the US after WWII under an alias.
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Sep 4, 2020 22:05
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I have to reread the comic I thought butcher came off a bit better in it. Like, he's still a psycho who will sacrifice anyone to achieve his goals but he's smart enough to pretend he cares about you. He does super manipulative poo poo in the background just so he can come off as a good friend when he fixes the problem he caused. In the TV show he's a blatant shithead who will drop you the second he thinks you've outlived your usefulness. he keeps lying and loving everything up so I don't get why everybody isn't hewie levels of mad at him
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Sep 4, 2020 22:06
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I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see Stormfront being Liberty's daughter, maybe
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Sep 4, 2020 22:07
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The comic version absolutely is, sooo
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Henker posted:So Stormfront is an actual literal Nazi right? With the references to Operation Paperclip and the random mentioning of an old superhero (Liberty), I'm guessing she joined up with the US after WWII under an alias. This is comics spoilers related to Stormfront. In the comics that's exactly what he was, the ubermmensch to help Hitler win the war, but Vogelbaum defected and dragged him along.He was always a powerhouse, just not quite on Homelander's level and they kept him kind of in the background because they didn't want anyone digging too deep into him. The show though, I don't think so. Unless I missed it, we don't know if compound V slows the aging process like it does in the comics and a dude who was alive during WWII could still look young now or not. I think she's just a straight up lovely alt-right racist like Laura Loomer or somebody like that.
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Sep 4, 2020 22:14
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Oh wow he was not lying
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Sep 4, 2020 22:25
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New thread title "The Boys: This... This is nice." Thoughts on the first 3: Stormfront strikes me as the Extremely Online turbo-accelerationist nihilist alt-righter. Whatever's going to happen is going to happen. She'll just ride out the wave as best she can. See also her comment to Homelander about "gently caress Vought?" -- she got enthused about that. The interactions with her & Starlight were super-revealing : Starlight is already playing the game well enough that Stormfront has a huge blind spot w/r/t her. Exciting to see Homelander realize he's loving up being a dad but doesn't really know how to do any better, so he'll stay the course. Butcher's brief moment of vulnerability made him look really pathetic, which I didn't expect. We knew why he was so driven and assholey, but hearing him say out loud made him less complex, IMO. I wonder what kind of superhero reveal Stan Edgar is going to have? If you're going to be the CEO of Vought, you're not going to be a filthy normal, right?
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The Boys: Challenge of the Superfriends
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