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yeah she doesnt stop being a witch i conflated the jiji thing and her power blockage. but also i still dont like the framing device of the dude, its a completely unnecessary subplot that mostly serves to tie 'maturity' into romance. really in general miyazaki and ghiblis roles for women always feel very... stifled. like theyre strong characters but they have to be strong in a way that is specific to women and fits within their role. maidens and mothers basically. even mononoke and nausica kind of fit this, the role the female leads take towards nature has a very motherly, nurturing vibe.
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Sep 4, 2020 17:56
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nausicaa absolutely does it but i think 'nurturing' is the last word that comes to mind for sen from mononoke-hime, and everything about the iron town owns. the lord of the iron town and the wolf god's rivalry is perfect
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Sep 4, 2020 18:09
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It's a tension that's really on display in the Nausica manga especially given you have a arc where Nauscia really does become a mother figure. Not to mention Kushana on the surface seems like a contrast but in the end really isn't. That's why I find the most interesting of his works as it probably the closest to what he actually believes/thinks IMHO
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Sep 4, 2020 18:10
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Space Flower posted:nausicaa absolutely does it but i think 'nurturing' is the last word that comes to mind for sen from mononoke-hime, and everything about the iron town owns. the lord of the iron town and the wolf god's rivalry is perfect i agree the iron town owns but i dont think you're supposed to think that
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Sep 4, 2020 18:14
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there's definitely a conservative streak in ghibli stories that I think has a lot to do with anxiety about modernity. miyazaki's female characters are very like... archetypal in their femininity? old ladies, pure girls, mothers, that kinda thing. but within those very binary-adhering roles i think you still see some bold characterization. like in Laputa I think, there's an old lady who's a sky pirate queen? and I think Nausicaa kills a man with a sword out of pure wrath and later shoots down a plane with a minigun? and the matron of the mining town in Mononoke goes full Attack and Dethrone God I guess a lot of the takeaway from Miyazaki movies maybe boils down to "Moms are tough," but I don't know if that's the worst thing for an internationally-renowned family animation studio to be putting out there. Like Princess Mononoke and Nausicaa feel like a gender revolution compared to Disney movies (Mulan returns to her prescribed gender role at the end of the movie; Nausicaa develops an earth-mother quality but it never negates her status as an action heroine) note that i haven't read the nausicaa manga yet edit: i basically totally agree with you endorph, i guess i just personally think of it as "well i can't expect grandpa's anime studio to have all the answers" and appreciate the good things in them Cephas fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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Sep 4, 2020 18:27
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yeah im mostly coming at this from a perspective of 'traumatized by gifsets on tumblr talking about how ghibli was the only feminist anime'
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Sep 4, 2020 18:53
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Nate RFB posted:I've seen it twice and it's maybe the worst anime I've seen. time to die bitch
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Sep 4, 2020 21:09
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Cephas posted:note that i haven't read the nausicaa manga yet The thing with the manga is how misanthropic it comes off by the end, the moral seems to effectively be that "any nature touched by man is irreversibly corrupted, even if it was generations ago, therefore we should just let it all burn down."
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Sep 4, 2020 22:18
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https://twitter.com/Killer7Friday/status/1301988411247456256
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Sep 4, 2020 22:52
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I’m sitting on a plane about to take off for an 8 hour flight and they have the live action Kaguya-sama, Love is War movie on here. I will watch and report back!
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Sep 4, 2020 23:21
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Crunchyroll and Adult Swim have announced their latest collabo and it's a 13 episode adaptation of Shenmue.
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Sep 5, 2020 00:29
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why would you want a version of shenmue without the hours of janky simulation adventure game stuff in 80s japan
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Sep 5, 2020 00:34
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because they might adapt the boat chapter between 1 and 2 that only exists in manga form
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Sep 5, 2020 00:38
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one full episode of waiting for a shop to open while ryo opens capsule toys
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Sep 5, 2020 00:42
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TMS(Tower of God and Conan) and directed by Sakurai Chikara(OPM2) I hope it doesn't get the OPM2 treatment and gets the nice Tower of God animation instead.
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Sep 5, 2020 00:42
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homeless snail posted:because they might adapt the boat chapter between 1 and 2 that only exists in manga form its in the dreamcast ports isnt it
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Sep 5, 2020 00:56
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Nate RFB posted:The thing with the manga is how misanthropic it comes off by the end, the moral seems to effectively be that "any nature touched by man is irreversibly corrupted, even if it was generations ago, therefore we should just let it all burn down." you can see the manga took like 13 years to complete because at the start while it's brutal at times it still stays somewhat optimist about things and seems to view the world from a somewhat materialist perspective until about the last 2 volumes, but then by the end it really goes off the deep end with a shift into weirdo cultism and misanthrophy?  i dunno what was going on in his head, but it makes you wonder if miyazaki had a time machine to look into the post 2000 climate inaction shitshow because in that case i could easily explain the tone shift lmao 
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Sep 5, 2020 00:57
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I rewatched Godzilla vs Mothra battle.for earth recently and I wish Battra would come back and destroy humanity for.our sins against gaia
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Sep 5, 2020 01:01
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Stairmaster posted:its in the dreamcast ports isnt it
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Sep 5, 2020 01:07
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*checks notes* so you're saying... hayao miyazaki... used a time machine to conspire with the simpsons in predicting the future... hmm, right, right, now it all makes sense...
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Sep 5, 2020 01:09
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there's a miyazaki inverview where, IIRC (it's been a while), he starts rambling about how if you plant a tree, it might bring good, but it might also fall on your house and destroy it because nature is unpredictable and that's why nausicaa ends the way it does lmfao
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Sep 5, 2020 01:10
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Stairmaster posted:its in the dreamcast ports isnt it No Shenmue game was ever ported to Dreamcast. Shenmue 1 was developed specifically for the Dreamcast and 2 was on Xbox.
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Sep 5, 2020 01:11
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homeless snail posted:no, ryo gets on the boat at the end of 1 and off it at the beginning of 2, and then talks to one of the characters from the cut chapter and is like "haha we sure had a great adventure huh?" er i meant xbox port sorry im high
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Sep 5, 2020 02:02
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still no!! i think you can read the manga in the xbox version though
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Sep 5, 2020 02:04
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that makes it a visual novel then and thus the highest form of art
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Sep 5, 2020 02:08
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When you think about it, the SA Forums are just a Visual Novel.
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Sep 5, 2020 04:50
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Julias posted:When you think about it, the SA Forums are just a Visual Novel. Explains why the writing is usually so poo poo.
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Sep 5, 2020 04:53
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Waffleman_ posted:No Shenmue game was ever ported to Dreamcast. Shenmue 1 was developed specifically for the Dreamcast and 2 was on Xbox. Shenmue 2 was developed for the (specifically, originally) for Dreamcast and the Xbox version is a port. JP/EU got it on DC as well.
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Sep 5, 2020 05:02
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Julias posted:When you think about it, the SA Forums are just a Visual Novel. Im the side character that gets a single panel of doing something dumb once a chapter.
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Sep 5, 2020 05:18
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Acerbatus posted:Explains why the writing is usually so poo poo. 
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Sep 5, 2020 05:55
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Truga posted:there's a miyazaki inverview where, IIRC (it's been a while), he starts rambling about how if you plant a tree, it might bring good, but it might also fall on your house and destroy it because nature is unpredictable I recently had a tree fall on my house but the small pine tree next to it held it up and kept it from doing any major damage. Nature is a land of contrasts
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Sep 5, 2020 06:00
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Furnaceface posted:Im the side character that gets a single panel of doing something dumb once a chapter. i'm the gay "romance" option thats actually only 1/2 a chapter long before the game fades to the Bad Ending screen
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Sep 5, 2020 15:35
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don't think i've ever experienced that in a vn
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Sep 5, 2020 15:37
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Shinkalion owns
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The Colonel posted:don't think i've ever experienced that in a vn chris in muvluv i guess? but thats clearly a gag ending also panels, my favorite thing that are in visual novels
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Sep 5, 2020 18:16
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Endorph posted:chris in muvluv i guess? but thats clearly a gag ending poo poo i need to finish Quartett sometime 
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https://twitter.com/TheOASG/status/1302311453236621313?s=20 e: omg this one too  https://twitter.com/TheOASG/status/1302310909671604226?s=20 Everything Burrito fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Sep 5, 2020 |
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