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PetraCore posted:I'm going to crawl out on a limb and guess that Netzach's meltdown is going to involve stress over you not letting him die, which is... pretty dark, but not out of the norm for what we've seen. Either that or we find out enkephalin overdoses put you in some horrible manic-psychotic state. Especially when combined with Bear brand beer. But most likely he hates you for not killing him. Which raises questions as to how the whole "get crushed then come back" thing works. If what comes back is a copy of the original, then Netzach could just kill himself immediately until they have no choice but to get another "template" to replace him.
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Yeah, but presumably his issue is that such an action doesn't solve anything. Nets gets crushoed, and Nets Mk. II walks in like nothing happened. What Nets PROBABLY wants is for his line to be terminated, no reincarnations/reboots to happen. And possibly for no one to succeed him in his Sisyphean taks, as then they too would be damned to what he is
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mercenarynuker posted:Yeah, but presumably his issue is that such an action doesn't solve anything. Nets gets crushoed, and Nets Mk. II walks in like nothing happened. What Nets PROBABLY wants is for his line to be terminated, no reincarnations/reboots to happen. And possibly for no one to succeed him in his Sisyphean taks, as then they too would be damned to what he is
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Sep 6, 2020 21:01
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Either that or we find out enkephalin overdoses put you in some horrible manic-psychotic state. Especially when combined with Bear brand beer. Hasn't Netz said that he's "not allowed" to die, whatever that means? In any case, if he's really a boxbot like all the others, then killing himself is significantly more difficult than just making a noose. Angela probably won't let him use the crusher they used to "deactivate" Tiphereth.
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Sep 6, 2020 21:05
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So the question is what happens after the day ends. Malkuth is 100% getting terminated for her actions today, but do we get a replacement like with Tiphereth B, or do we write the whole thing off as a loss and scrap the template itself entirely? Angela can cover her job anyways, why risk a repeat of this catastrophe?
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Sep 6, 2020 21:38
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I dunno, I mean once she calms down I don't see any reason Malkuth can't keep doing her job despite looking like she does now.
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Sep 6, 2020 21:47
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Oh hey, it's Malkuth!
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Sep 6, 2020 21:50
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See? She can hold so many more clipboards now!
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Sep 6, 2020 21:51
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The real question is what she looks like now without the filter. EDIT: Also it's possible that helping Malkuth work through her issues means she'll be significantly more stable after. It's a bit of a hail mary, but if that's where the narrative goes, it'd be counterproductive to reset her.
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Sep 6, 2020 21:55
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Since it's completely optional to do the suppressions and the AIs operate as normal until you do, but Angela is pretty clear that it's important to do them, there's presumably some payoff other than just smooshing that incarnation and moving on.
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Sep 6, 2020 22:12
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Quackles posted:Oh hey, it's Malkuth! This took way longer to get than I'm willing to say
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Sep 6, 2020 22:47
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I still don’t get it.
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Sep 6, 2020 23:07
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The name doesnt say Malkuth, its says MalkUwUth. Also a neat thing, if you look in her tendrils you can see the remains of her robotic shell. So it seems that whatever THAT is broke/grew out of the robot body. Puts a new spin on the blood and guts that came out of Tippy when he got smushed, huh? Chaosbrain fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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Sep 6, 2020 23:12
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The ‘WARINING’ typo plastered all over those screens is really bugging me. It’s not even consistently wrong!
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Sep 6, 2020 23:20
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malkuth was in charge of the warning screens too
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Sep 6, 2020 23:27
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So nobody is going to post a picture of the green robots next to our boxy overlords? Looking at both there are not as many similarities as I remembered.
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King of Bleh posted:The ‘WARINING’ typo plastered all over those screens is really bugging me. It’s not even consistently wrong! Sure it is; the entire top line is misspelled and the entire bottom line is correctly spelled. If the pic is in-game and not made by TeeQueue, I bet there's a basic "looping text" framework in the code that forms the image and the bit that designates what goes in the top line has a typo. There's no reason to make all these "meltdown" pages by hand if they all have basically the same layout; designing a template and filling in the appropriate fields is quicker and ensures they'll be pretty uniform.
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So I went back to check, and yeah no Malkuth's pen wasn't one with a ducky head previously. So after transforming into the Notebook Nightmare, Malkuth went out of her way to grab a new pen. This is entirely in character for her, isn't it. also looking at previous updates holy god Malkuth's many many many problems were sitting right there the whole time and we mostly ignored them until it was becoming absurdly clear she was going to be the first Sephirah to snap
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lets hang out posted:malkuth was in charge of the warning screens too
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Bloody Emissary posted:Sure it is; the entire top line is misspelled and the entire bottom line is correctly spelled. If the pic is in-game and not made by TeeQueue, I bet there's a basic "looping text" framework in the code that forms the image and the bit that designates what goes in the top line has a typo. There's no reason to make all these "meltdown" pages by hand if they all have basically the same layout; designing a template and filling in the appropriate fields is quicker and ensures they'll be pretty uniform. The in-game version works exactly like you just described. The version that I used in my boss graphic was made by Mizure, who did a great job copying the original, down to the typo at the top.
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TeeQueue posted:The in-game version works exactly like you just described. AS GOD AND ANGELA INTENDED
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So I have just personally taken note of the phrase "Manifestation of Qlipha" in that boss banner. As far as I'm aware, we we don't have any context for the meaning of Qlipha/Qliphoth. I'd assumed it was just a label on the containment whatevers, but Malkuwuth (drat, I'm gonna be calling her that all the time now, aren't I?) being referred to as a manifestation of it is something I think belongs on the mounting list of Unnerving Things in this game. All that said, I present a realistic rendition of my face during this update, and repeated upon seeing that terrifying fanart of her breaking:
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mizure posted:AS GOD AND ANGELA INTENDED I suppose I should thank you as well, then, since the version I used to make my picture was stolen from TQ. azren posted:All that said, I present a realistic rendition of my face during this update, and repeated upon seeing that terrifying fanart of her breaking: Thanks, and you're welcome!
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Thank you for finally posting something that could even remotely accurately described as my face during that update. Malkuth is currently the absolute most terrifying thing in the facility and for good reason.
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poo poo Just Got RealTM
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the Orb of Zot posted:Malkuth is currently the absolute most terrifying thing in the facility and for good reason. Nonsense, Mizu is right there!
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I don't think pressing 5 is enough for this LP. We need a 6.
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Dirk the Average posted:Nonsense, Mizu is right there! Mizu is not currently attempting to murder the manager for something he didn't do*, is working to aid the corporation in day-to-day work rather than trying to ruin everything to spite a single person, and is slightly less horrifying to look at or converse with. *X may actually be A and thus 100% guilty of what Malkuth is accusing him of, in which case he deserves to die because Elijah did not deserve in the slightest such a terrible fate and Malkuth should take over as the new facility manager in his place 
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Another fun observation: we're told that the secret project that killed Ellijah was "Cogito." The main association that I've ever seen with that word is via the famous statement by Descartes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum. So it explicitly references thought, and would be a logical codename for a project to develop artificial intelligence in some form. Descartes, of course, is also largely associated with philosophical skepticism, which gave us the Cartesian demon and its modern-day equivalent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_in_a_vat. So it does seem like another sly nod toward the AIs being brain-boxes.
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the Orb of Zot posted:*X may actually be A and thus 100% guilty of what Malkuth is accusing him of, in which case he deserves to die because Elijah did not deserve in the slightest such a terrible fate and Malkuth should take over as the new facility manager in his place she's the one who chose to drink hyper bleach or whatever
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Maybe she wouldn't have been so desperate to inject a horrible helldrug into herself if management hadn't kept spurning her. Even then, doesn't change the fact that she was begging for death and her boss refused to even acknowledge her existence to the bitter end.
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the Orb of Zot posted:Thank you for finally posting something that could even remotely accurately described as my face during that update. She's the most overtly terrifying thing. I'm significantly more scared of Angela in the grand scheme of things, but right now? gently caress is Malkuth scary! edit: the Orb of Zot posted:*X may actually be A and thus 100% guilty of what Malkuth is accusing him of, in which case he deserves to die because Elijah did not deserve in the slightest such a terrible fate and Malkuth should take over as the new facility manager in his place If X is actually A, that doesn't mean that X deserves to die, even if we allow the idea that anyone deserves to die. Even if we do allow that, if X ends up being an actually different person than A, it's hard to defend killing X for things that A did. azren fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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lets hang out posted:she's the one who chose to drink hyper bleach or whatever the Orb of Zot posted:Maybe she wouldn't have been so desperate to inject a horrible helldrug into herself if management hadn't kept spurning her. I'm. Uh. Not sure if you can give a meat robot ritalin, though. azren posted:If X is actually A, that doesn't mean that X deserves to die, even if we allow the idea that anyone deserves to die. Even if we do allow that, if X ends up being an actually different person than A, it's hard to defend killing X for things that A did. PetraCore fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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King of Bleh posted:Another fun observation: we're told that the secret project that killed Ellijah was "Cogito." The main association that I've ever seen with that word is via the famous statement by Descartes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum. So it explicitly references thought, and would be a logical codename for a project to develop artificial intelligence in some form. Did the original Korean version of LobCorp actually spell out the Latin word for  as 'cogito' using western alphabet, or was that a change for localization so that native-English-reading audiences would more readily understand [this is a placeholder noun for some sort of Fictitious Thing That Will Never Be Mentioned Outside This Cutscene, so don't sweat the details.] because we're so accustomed to seeing Latin words/phrases/idioms randomly kludged into sentences that we often don't even notice that we're doing it?
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silentsnack posted:Did the original Korean version of LobCorp actually spell out the Latin word for I looked at a video, they wrote "코기토" which is phonetically "ko-gi-to". The same way it's written on Korean Wikipedia's article about Descartes' statement: https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%BD%94%EA%B8%B0%ED%86%A0_%EC%97%90%EB%A5%B4%EA%B3%A0_%EC%88%A8
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silentsnack posted:Did the original Korean version of LobCorp actually spell out the Latin word for When I was doing my attempt at Malkuth's Core Suppression, I noticed that the application of Cogito is mentioned as one of the work steps that overlay the containment unit whenever a work is done. I forget what kind of work it was used on, though.
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the Orb of Zot posted:Mizu is not currently attempting to murder the manager for something he didn't do*, is working to aid the corporation in day-to-day work rather than trying to ruin everything to spite a single person, and is slightly less horrifying to look at or converse with. Right, but to Mizu, even what Malkuth currently is is a cutie with heckin' vitals. I don't think we've ever seen the agents or clerks with the filter weakened either, right?
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So you think the other Sephirah are just sitting in a break room somewhere watching all this go down?
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Solitair posted:When I was doing my attempt at Malkuth's Core Suppression, I noticed that the application of Cogito is mentioned as one of the work steps that overlay the containment unit whenever a work is done. I forget what kind of work it was used on, though. "Allocating 37% Cogito" is an Instinct work message
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