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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah that's fair. But its not like that was homelander lasers. So I guess some other supe? But then again the question, why not the boys? I was thinking more along the lines of something pharmaceutical. Something that was injected beforehand and triggered under certain circumstances. For example getting or figuring out damning evidence on Vought. Or like, nanobots, son. Let's see if we will find out.
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Sep 7, 2020 07:41
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I was thinking it was a supe. They may have just had a limit on how many they can pop at one time, or could have been under orders to only pop the CIA agent. The penalty for breaking the rules (as attested to by Maeve) is rather graphic, so it's far FAR better to err on the side of caution than risk Black Noir playing clue with your head and torso. Or it could be as simple as line of sight. It took time to pop the agent's head, and the boys were loving GONE after a second of just freaking out. No line of sight, no brain boom.
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Sep 7, 2020 08:09
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Bust Rodd posted:Love Sausage now & forever If they don't ever have him in the show I will be crushed 
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Sep 7, 2020 08:29
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Comic book head exploding in the comics the more is a radio wave device (Or gas can’t remember) that can be tuned to pop the head of anyone exposed to compound V. But Raynor isn’t a supe. .
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Sep 7, 2020 08:47
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah that's fair. But its not like that was homelander lasers. So I guess some other supe? But then again the question, why not the boys? Without Rayner the Boys have nothing. They're five fugitives from the law with no resources. Why should Vought care about them?
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Sep 7, 2020 09:54
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So what kind of leverage does Butcher's wife that she was able to bargain for his life? She's locked inside of a supermax compound with Superman, and it's not like she could stop him from doing whatever it is he feels like doing at any particular moment. At first I thought it was a "leave him alone and I'll pretend to play nice in front of the kid" thing but that seems out the window, so it's hard to imagine what else would prevent Homelander from just popping Butcher like a water balloon.
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Sep 7, 2020 10:04
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Homelander was raised without parents and both he and vought recognise that as a mistake, she has the leverage that as long as she’s alive super kid has a mom. E; oh you meant to save Butchers life. I guess there’s no real point in killing him from Homelanders POV. He can’t hurt him and homelander has his wife.
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Sep 7, 2020 10:11
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I think one of the trailers for S2 may have an almost definitive answer to what is causing Raynor's head to explode. There's a supe in some kind of psych ward exploding people. E: vvvv yeah, that. That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Sep 7, 2020 10:13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8fFM1ZdWo 1m45s ish if you're curious.
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Sep 7, 2020 11:40
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah the only thing that makes sense as to why the boys wouldn't be immediately attacked is if it was some kind of remote device specifically targeting Raynor. Like Vought has explosives implanted in all CIA agents necks or something. It could be as something simple as a head-popping Alexa implant, tuned to specific phrases or keywords.
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Sep 7, 2020 12:00
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etalian posted:Just when you though they could not top the hilarious dolphin road kill death scene in season 1.
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Sep 7, 2020 12:05
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I think in the back of my head I realized that Stormfront was modeled after Loomer but I didn't quite get it while watching. Comics: I'm pretty sure that they are going to go with the Noir reveal after the super I cannot wait to find out what the deal is with the Fresca.
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Sep 7, 2020 12:25
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I don't think Stormfront is specifically modelled after Loomer - their politics might be similar but their personalities are completely different.
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Sep 7, 2020 12:37
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Bertha the Toaster posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8fFM1ZdWo A few things beside that left undiscovered that happen at some point: Annie's mom ends up in the same room as the Boys and Annie, horrified at something they just saw. Somebody explodes all over Ashley. Somebody gets splattered all over a George Washington painting. Homelander lasers a SWAT team member to pieces. A-Train and the Deep share a drink. A Polaris-styled white kid flings a couple of people back and the Boys van in a field. At a rally with a bunch of signs supporting Stormfront, two jump out- "Remember the 59 (has hash marks under it", and "Who will they kill next" Stormfront talks at that rally, Homelander watches from their HQ....and he is not pleased The "laser my loving tits" scene Black Noir smashes Annie's head into the Seven's table The dog! Maeve punches someone in a field
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Sep 7, 2020 13:44
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Professor Shark posted:
That didn't happen, though. Black Noir was definitely harmed by the blast, and it wasn't even a big enough blast to ruin his whole costume.
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Sep 7, 2020 14:22
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Jedit posted:That didn't happen, though. Black Noir was definitely harmed by the blast, and it wasn't even a big enough blast to ruin his whole costume. Speaking of "power levels" is always a bit cheesy and we don't really have had that many physical confrontations with supes in the show, but in the comics Kimiko/The Female literally sandpapers her fingers away when she tries to slice up Stormfront, while she was able to cut open Black Noir in the show. Homelander is tougher than Stormfront, most likely, so BN probably isn't an Homelander clone in the show. Or they may have just have everything work differently in the series, since most of everything is different. E: actually, Homelander was absolutely fine after the explosion at Stillwell's? Don't remember if he was inside the house or if he blitzed outside to save Butcher's life, though.
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Sep 7, 2020 14:29
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I thought Raynor's head was exploded by not-Antman going up her nose, but nice catch on that trailer bit. That's our likely culprit.
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Sep 7, 2020 14:39
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ZearothK posted:I thought Raynor's head was exploded by not-Antman going up her nose, but nice catch on that trailer bit. That's our likely culprit. Antman only explodes people by going up their butt.
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Sep 7, 2020 14:49
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I just thought the CIA put a chip in their brain. If a psychic is remote detonating someone’s brain, it doesn’t make sense to me that the boys would live through that.
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Sep 7, 2020 14:53
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E: ^^^^^ if that's the supe's doing, and if we go by most representation of psychic we have in the media, maybe there's a limit to the reach/quantity of heads that can be exploded before he passes out.ZearothK posted:I thought Raynor's head was exploded by not-Antman going up her nose, but nice catch on that trailer bit. That's our likely culprit. If we follow up on that trails, I wonder if that is Vought's safenet (or hell, even the US government's, now that Compound-V existence is not a secret anymore) in case Homelander goes rogue: I mean, it doesn't really matter how tough you are if someone can just give you a brain aneurism at a distance (even if he can't just blow up the Big Guy's head). The supe in question seems to be in a structure similar to the one Homelander was created, and it looks like The Boys are infiltrating the facility disguised as nurses (maybe to break him out?). Also, it would probably mean that Vought is responsible for Raynor's killing. That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Sep 7, 2020 14:57
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The show is set in a world with super-powered dorks and y'all are debating genome-keyed Alexa nanogas implants? 
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Sep 7, 2020 15:00
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Zaphod42 posted:Well if you wanna change the subject I like how he remembered it was a bird of prey name but when with Raven instead of Eagle.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:07
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GD_American posted:A few things beside that left undiscovered that happen at some point: I agree with most of this, though the shot of Homelander reacting could be in response to anything. It'd be easy to cross cut that with Stormfront for a trailer.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:08
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Thundercracker posted:I like how he remembered it was a bird of prey name but when with Raven instead of Eagle. Speaking of narrative sleight of hand, I was absolutely sure Eagle was going to be part of some kind of Supe-AA, with the lady being his sponsor. I assume this is intentional, since a lot of what we get to see from the get go (offering snacks/sodas, the positive dialogue, "I was in a bad place like you", "she is someone very important to me" although they are not in a relantionship, the way the woman and Eagle speak in catchprhases) could be construed as some kind of intervention from an AA adjacent group - until the present the non-Dianetics book.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:20
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All of those scenes confused me because The Deep is absolutely acting and talking like he is smart enough to see how weird all their stupid bullshit is, and then he has the scene with his gills, and then he’s like 100% sold and talking like a zealot. I felt like we missed a scene or something, I was holding out hope that The Deep was figuring it out but I guess he really is supposed to be kind of a Bimbo.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:26
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Bust Rodd posted:All of those scenes confused me because The Deep is absolutely acting and talking like he is smart enough to see how weird all their stupid bullshit is, and then he has the scene with his gills, and then he’s like 100% sold and talking like a zealot. That's the wedge they needed. And then in short order he gets to Heropose as they kill Lucy and oh god I tried to stop them but they were just so savage
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Sep 7, 2020 15:29
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Bust Rodd posted:All of those scenes confused me because The Deep is absolutely acting and talking like he is smart enough to see how weird all their stupid bullshit is, and then he has the scene with his gills, and then he’s like 100% sold and talking like a zealot. I felt like we missed a scene or something, I was holding out hope that The Deep was figuring it out but I guess he really is supposed to be kind of a Bimbo. I got the exact opposite. The Deep is is too dumb to be properly indoctrinated so he calls bullshit on all the scientology stuff because he doesn't understand at all. He has the handwriting of a 3rd grader and the woman flat out says he doesn't have enough of an internal life to work with. When he's spouting their lines he still doesn't really understand it.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:40
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Thundercracker posted:I got the exact opposite. The Deep is is too dumb to be properly indoctrinated so he calls bullshit on all the scientology stuff because he doesn't understand at all. He has the handwriting of a 3rd grader and the woman flat out says he doesn't have enough of an internal life to work with. When he's spouting their lines he still doesn't really understand it. Yeah, Kevin is dumb as a sack of bricks.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:46
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I get the sense he's saying it because he has the idea that if you say all that stuff then that makes everything OK as a substitute for actual growth. Cults tend to rely on having a lot of babble you're not expected to understand, just parrot for acceptance. It's the zealotry of someone who's just been introduced to an idea rather than a true believer. Homelander immediately puncturing him by insulting his gills underlines it since if he was changed in any real way he'd be over it. If you've ever seen Peep Show it's the same joke as the episode Jez mocks, and then briefly becomes, a Scientologist. Some people buy into stuff quick. Unrelated observation: In the Dawn of the Seven storyboards its shown that A-train isn't an original member with some batman/wolverine looking guy instead. massive spider fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Sep 7, 2020 15:47
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A-Train being a diversity hire wouldn't surprise me.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:50
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yeah I mean he probably is I'm just curious who the mystery guy is. In the comics there was a Mr Marathon who got accidentally pasted by Homelander but his outfit design doesn’t look like a speeder.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:53
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Well there is still Lamplighter as well, who we know is coming.
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Sep 7, 2020 15:55
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massive spider posted:Unrelated observation: In the Dawn of the Seven storyboards its shown that A-train isn't an original member with some batman/wolverine looking guy instead. We know Lamplighter was a member of the 7 before killing Mallory's nephews, although you're right, I don't think that is him based on the look. EDIT: the Wolverine/Batman guy is Marathon Man. Lamplighter is the caped guy on the left in this image:   
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Sep 7, 2020 15:58
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Spoiler from the trailer but we do explicitly see another supe who seems to have telekinetic power blow another person's entire body apart. So, I don't think there's any mystery about who killed Rayner. e: \/\/\/ exactly, they are useful pawns for someone in this Vought civil war
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Sep 7, 2020 16:23
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah the only thing that makes sense as to why the boys wouldn't be immediately attacked is if it was some kind of remote device specifically targeting Raynor. Like Vought has explosives implanted in all CIA agents necks or something. If there's a coup afoot, The Boys help distract Vought and muddy the situation.
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Sep 7, 2020 16:24
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Thundercracker posted:I got the exact opposite. The Deep is is too dumb to be properly indoctrinated so he calls bullshit on all the scientology stuff because he doesn't understand at all. He has the handwriting of a 3rd grader and the woman flat out says he doesn't have enough of an internal life to work with. When he's spouting their lines he still doesn't really understand it.
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Sep 7, 2020 16:34
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Xenomrph posted:Dude I have the handwriting of a third grader. Would you like a Fresca?
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Sep 7, 2020 17:39
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Trailer spoilers:GD_American posted:Somebody gets splattered all over a George Washington painting. Looks like Edgar's office quote:Homelander lasers a SWAT team member to pieces. Look closer, they're wearing Vought gear quote:Maeve punches someone in a field
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Sep 7, 2020 19:11
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FilthyImp posted:A-Train being a diversity hire wouldn't surprise me. That Italian Guy posted:We know Lamplighter was a member of the 7 before killing Mallory's nephews, although you're right, I don't think that is him based on the look. Also, based on the season 1 race storyline it seems like the Seven only want the fastest speedster in the world.
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Sep 7, 2020 19:12
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Wait a minute, if he's so shallow-minded then why come they call him the Deep?? I hope someone lost their job over that gaffe
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