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Diqnol
May 10, 2010

I’ve won three crusades so far - first two I was the primary contributor and so each one my cousin was installed as the queen. That’s great, right? Well, by the time each next crusade came about, the kingdom of my cousin (first Jerusalem, then Syria) had passed onto their son (in both cases descended from two french catholic parents) who apparently immediately converted to bedouin seveners. This makes sense mechanically but I’m grumpy because it doesn’t make sense historically and it feels like the only way to keep the fight going is to take the switch character option you’re given on a win.

Oh, and the third crusade was called against the kingdom of Jerusalem. Memes.

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JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer
Is it not possible to declare yourself the beneficiary of a crusade anymore?

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

I wasn’t able to, at least.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

ASAPRockySituation posted:

I wasn’t able to, at least.

I just wanna be an outremer, I guess just use the switch character function or murder all your other heirs?

EDIT: Nevermind, it lets you switch with an event if your preferred guy wins.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.

FrickenMoron posted:

I tried starting a game in 867 in ireland, conquered 2 neighboring provinces and then just keep getting destroyed by viking factions who can raise 2k+ soldiers despite owning only 2 lands? How are they doing that?

IIRC certain vikings start with bonus troops ("special soldiers" in-game) who don't refill once lost, but as with the other person who asked about a similar thing, they can also hire mercenaries so check their gold amount. You can always see a breakdown of enemy troops from their character menu which also helps to figure out which Men-at-Arms types you want to hire to counter them.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction
Managed to survive my succession crisis/stealing my brother's lawful inheritance, and then a ton of subsequent wars by opportunistic bastards nearby, entirely off an alliance that I swung with Hungary and their 8000 soldiers. By the time they won all my wars for me, they were 500 gold in debt. Thanks, buddy.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





Hargrimm posted:

I did this once and then the cloud state state got screwed up and now I have to manually copy around and load the backup every time or else the game loads into the same old one in 1180 no matter what.

I don't use cloud saves so this is never a problem.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

ASAPRockySituation posted:

I’ve won three crusades so far - first two I was the primary contributor and so each one my cousin was installed as the queen. That’s great, right? Well, by the time each next crusade came about, the kingdom of my cousin (first Jerusalem, then Syria) had passed onto their son (in both cases descended from two french catholic parents) who apparently immediately converted to bedouin seveners. This makes sense mechanically but I’m grumpy because it doesn’t make sense historically and it feels like the only way to keep the fight going is to take the switch character option you’re given on a win.

Oh, and the third crusade was called against the kingdom of Jerusalem. Memes.

Same, I won a crusade for Jerusalem that ended with my cousin King converting to Sunni, and then a later crusade to capture Rome (where I paid the piety from my own meagre pool to redirect it since the Pope himself didn't seem to give a poo poo about the fact that the capital of catholicism was in muslim hands!). The Rome one was particularly galling, I wanted to just give the land back to the pope, but couldn't select him as a beneficiary, so when we won I had my sister become Queen of Romagna...and within 5 years she'd converted to islam despite only Rome itself being muslim.

I think generally characters should be very reluctant to change to the religion/culture of the peasantry, and basically never if they're of an organised faith and consider the peasants' faith to be Evil.

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

Just realised that becoming a pacifist Cathar may not have been the best move when playing in Iberia and I need to get to conquering the peninsula.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Donnerberg posted:

Nice. I can't brag about forcing the game to crash yet, but it locks up for half a minute when I try to view my dynasty tree. That's what I get for multiple generations of inbreeding. Every family member gets their own branch even if they are married and have the same children.

My previous player character had 13 children and my current one has 9, so the dynasty is real wide.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Reveilled posted:

Same, I won a crusade for Jerusalem that ended with my cousin King converting to Sunni, and then a later crusade to capture Rome (where I paid the piety from my own meagre pool to redirect it since the Pope himself didn't seem to give a poo poo about the fact that the capital of catholicism was in muslim hands!). The Rome one was particularly galling, I wanted to just give the land back to the pope, but couldn't select him as a beneficiary, so when we won I had my sister become Queen of Romagna...and within 5 years she'd converted to islam despite only Rome itself being muslim.

I think generally characters should be very reluctant to change to the religion/culture of the peasantry, and basically never if they're of an organised faith and consider the peasants' faith to be Evil.

Yeah, I found it pretty funny when my cousin who I made King of Jerusalem converted and I liked having a muslim house of my dynasty, but it is pretty silly. Worse is that it makes it hard to install leaders of your culture/religion in lands you conquer and let them go through the long process of converting the counties for you like you could in CK2.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Jinnigan posted:

Is there a good start or way of playing if I just want to build out a kingdom or two and then build 'up' for the majority of the game?

North Wales has been pretty good. You have big defensive bonuses from buildings and terrain. You still have to swear fealty to your most powerful neighbour most of the time to be safe, but the bonuses from being on your liege's council make that desirable anyway.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

JosefStalinator posted:

Is it not possible to declare yourself the beneficiary of a crusade anymore?

It has to be a member of your house who isn't in line for inheritance.

perc2
May 16, 2020


I love these personality summary lines because some of them read weirdly, and I thought "Content Planner" was some mid-level web agency position

Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



How does the ability to designate your heir (that you get from Absolute authority) interact with Partition succession? Do you get to pick which kid is your primary heir, or something else?

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Bold Robot posted:

How does the ability to designate your heir (that you get from Absolute authority) interact with Partition succession? Do you get to pick which kid is your primary heir, or something else?

Pretty much that. The succession rules are still fully in place — you're just… well… designating who your heir is. It gets around the issue where you have a decent realm setup, where you've managed to finagle sensible distribution of regions, and suddenly it turns out that your oldest kid has picked up every negative trait in the book while you weren't looking, and the first thing that will happen on succession is a revolt and/or a knife in the back. So instead you just switch it around, get the second kid as your heir, and start preparing to take advantage of when the other kid (still) gets a knife in the back.

It no longer becomes so desperately important that your first kid turns out alright and survives all the way to the end — instead, you can let them roam more freely and build up experience in all kinds of otherwise (dynastically) dangerous environments.

Philonius
Jun 12, 2005

Is warring amongst vassals bugged?

Playing as the duke of Holland in the HRE, whenever I want to declare war on a fellow vassal the game declares war on the emperor instead. Crown authority is at at 2, so I should be able to gobble up my neighbours.

Conversely, playing as the king of Ireland with crown authority 3, I see vassals beating eachother up constantly.

Tiger Millionaire
Jan 25, 2014

He'll eat your kids and fire your parents!
I keep on waging incredibly stupid wars and running my peasant hordes into any army they can find, losing them all and levying again until I win a victory and start snowballing, it has led to me having no sons and a council full of idiots because im getting my knights constantly owned, somehow I have survived every battle. This isn't optimal but it's fun as all hell, though I do agree thats levy replenishment might be a little fast, especially with the +100% replenishment rate perk.

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

oh no I've done so much inbreeding my family tree looks like a tumbleweed

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



Philonius posted:

Conversely, playing as the king of Ireland with crown authority 3, I see vassals beating eachother up constantly.

Same issue here. Combined with the warnings that lands could leave my realm due to my vassals having heirs that are landed elsewhere still popping up, I feel like having High Crown authority isn’t doing much for me other than letting me use Primo and getting all my vassals ticked enough that every time I die and my heir inherits, all my powerful vassals start a Liberty Faction again.

I’d go up to Absolute to see if that helps but I don’t want to make the rebellion every time I die worse.

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008
aha! I am now the King of Ireland as of August 884AD. Now I gotta figure out how the gently caress to deal with these goddamn Norsemen in random southern counties.

At least being a king let me go with Tanistry instead of partition for succession.

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


I don't know if this is just CPU abuse on CK3's part or what, but the left is my UPS under normal load, the right is a peak during CK3 (that is, the UPS started beeping its alarm and I checked the load; no other game causes that to happen).

Xerophyte
Mar 17, 2008

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486W is quite a lot but not off the chart for a computer if you have some high-wattage Radeon or an X080 Ti. Do you know what your computer's PSU is rated for? For practical solutions to the problem: if vsync is off, change it to on so the GPU doesn't torch itself pointlessly running at 200 FPS.

FWIW, high end consumer CPUs peak at like 130W, high end GPUs peak at about 280W. Add hard drives, networking and general motherboard things then multiply by whatever the power loss is in the PSU for total consumption.

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


Xerophyte posted:

486W is quite a lot but not off the chart for a computer if you have some high-wattage Radeon or an X080 Ti. Do you know what your computer's PSU is rated for? For practical solutions to the problem: if vsync is off, change it to on so the GPU doesn't torch itself pointlessly running at 200 FPS.

FWIW, high end consumer CPUs peak at like 130W, high end GPUs peak at about 280W. Add hard drives, networking and general motherboard things then multiply by whatever the power loss is in the PSU for total consumption.

PSU is 750, GPU is a 1080 (not Ti), vsync is on. So nothing too wild.

canada jezus
Jul 18, 2011

What are everyone's favorite lifestyles? I know the "best" ones are probably whatever you need atm (and stewardship in general), but like just favorites? I quite love the torturer/intrigue one. Just everyone poo poo scared of you, kidnapping motherfuckers and torturing them for funsies. Diplomacy is great though, make friends, everyone loving you, tons of prestige. Learning is situational but cool. I haven't played any martial characters yet, but i think that'll be my next game. Try to stack up knight effectiveness bonus and roleplay family power ranger killing peasants.


edit: Also can i get into weird witchcraft stuff? Haven't seen any of that yet.

canada jezus fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Sep 7, 2020

Blorange
Jan 31, 2007

A wizard did it

disaster pastor posted:

PSU is 750, GPU is a 1080 (not Ti), vsync is on. So nothing too wild.

Check if you're running ultra low latency mode in the Nvidia control panel, you don't need it for CK3 and it'll run up the power usage like mad.

*Edit* Might have been thinking fast Vsync, it's the setting that runs your GPU over your refresh rate to minimize latency.

Blorange fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Sep 7, 2020

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

disaster pastor posted:

PSU is 750, GPU is a 1080 (not Ti), vsync is on. So nothing too wild.

thats not really particularly out of line, assuming you have a cpu that matches up to the 1080 then it could easily peak up that high or higher turboing up before it settles back down, and theres def situations in the game which kick the cpu up into a pretty high load momentarily like raising your armies spread out over your realm etc

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

canada jezus posted:

What are everyone's favorite lifestyles? I know the "best" ones are probably whatever you need atm (and stewardship in general), but like just favorites? I quite love the torturer/intrigue one. Just everyone poo poo scared of you, kidnapping motherfuckers and torturing them for funsies. Diplomacy is great though, make friends, everyone loving you, tons of prestige. Learning is situational but cool. I haven't played any martial characters yet, but i think that'll be my next game. Try to stack up knight effectiveness bonus and roleplay family power ranger killing peasants.

Various combos of august and gallant. So many knights. So much bonus to (and from) knights.

Gasmask
Apr 27, 2003

And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee

canada jezus posted:

What are everyone's favorite lifestyles? I know the "best" ones are probably whatever you need atm (and stewardship in general), but like just favorites? I quite love the torturer/intrigue one. Just everyone poo poo scared of you, kidnapping motherfuckers and torturing them for funsies. Diplomacy is great though, make friends, everyone loving you, tons of prestige. Learning is situational but cool. I haven't played any martial characters yet, but i think that'll be my next game. Try to stack up knight effectiveness bonus and roleplay family power ranger killing peasants.

Kidnapping is great. I'm sure everyone has already worked this out, but if you have a high intrigue and can get a decent chance of abducting a neighbouring ruler, you can wardec just before the kidnap event triggers and get an immediate 100% war score when you snatch up the ruler. Works best when you have enough piety to be able to holy war for duchies or kingdoms.

Zeron
Oct 23, 2010

canada jezus posted:

What are everyone's favorite lifestyles? I know the "best" ones are probably whatever you need atm (and stewardship in general), but like just favorites? I quite love the torturer/intrigue one. Just everyone poo poo scared of you, kidnapping motherfuckers and torturing them for funsies. Diplomacy is great though, make friends, everyone loving you, tons of prestige. Learning is situational but cool. I haven't played any martial characters yet, but i think that'll be my next game. Try to stack up knight effectiveness bonus and roleplay family power ranger killing peasants.

They're all pretty cool yeah. Torture negates stress entirely and is fun to use, the diplomacy tree that gives you befriend also negates stress -and- you can befriend all your vassals which is amazingly powerful for Clans, Learning is all around powerful with massive opinion boosts to same faith and health boosts (plus secondary benefits like faster innovations), stewardship gives infinite money and helps keep your realm stable...martial I haven't played with either tbh, leading from the front is just too dangerous right now.

Favorite overall, probably the diplomacy trees. They just give you so many options to deal with pretty much everythinge

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass
Can't stop playing but I really need some clarification on succession for tutorial Ireland.

I got the 2 duchies and 7 counties I needed to claim the King title, but I died like 12 gold short while waiting to get 500 gold (my income is only 7.7 which seems bad).

Then all of my land gets split up between my sons so my new ruler would have to go to war to win all that stuff back? Why doesn't my heir actually get all my stuff? Here's what my land looks like at the save right before death:


I'm also not sure what the blue outline means.

Here are my titles if the crests make any sense.


My heir kept the primary petty kingdom title and the Earl title for the holding. My second son got the second petty kingdom and the 2nd Earl listed. My third son got the last Earl of Dublin. I didn't make the Title for Duchy of Meath since I was trying to save for King so I think that's why I lost Athlone in the middle of all that as it was removed from the realm. Should I create that Duchy and give it to my heir so he has it already? Should I give him all the Earl titles too?

I was so close to King, but I see that my heir has no claim to King. How would I get that back? Even if I fight my brothers it seems like I just have that land.

Also, what does this mean? She is my second (imprisoned) son's wife. Don't know how to press the claim.

Gasmask
Apr 27, 2003

And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee
I always played to avoid them in CK2 but spending some time as a kid is actually quite a bit more fun now. Paradox seem to have added a lot more event types for that part of the game (bullying/being bullied, crushing etc) and it doesn't feel like so much of a pointless waste of time as it used to. I did quite like how important regents could be in CK2, but it really gimped your ability to do certain things when you were regented.

Lucky Raccoon
Aug 17, 2006

Let's put on our classics and have a little dance shall we?
Are the total soldier counts tooltips just estimates based on leader skills or something? Finding them totally inaccurate. Enemy forces are rolling around with 17k stacks when they only show a total army size of 13k in the war tab at the same time.

Combat is still pretty opaque and the ai reactions to player choices at long distances + movement lock is really frustrating. Feels worse than earlier games but that’s probably just a result of it being outshadowed by improvements in so many other areas.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





So what determines how long army's take to gather? I don't remember seeing it mentioned anywhere.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Zeron posted:

They're all pretty cool yeah. Torture negates stress entirely and is fun to use, the diplomacy tree that gives you befriend also negates stress -and- you can befriend all your vassals which is amazingly powerful for Clans, Learning is all around powerful with massive opinion boosts to same faith and health boosts (plus secondary benefits like faster innovations), stewardship gives infinite money and helps keep your realm stable...martial I haven't played with either tbh, leading from the front is just too dangerous right now.

There's very early perks in the Gallant tree that specifically makes it less dangerous. With a good ruler with decent martial and prowess and some perks filled in I actually find it really good to have lead him armies and not that dangerous. Risks of course, but I'll take them.

ilitarist
Apr 26, 2016

illiterate and militarist

canada jezus posted:

What are everyone's favorite lifestyles? I know the "best" ones are probably whatever you need atm (and stewardship in general), but like just favorites? I quite love the torturer/intrigue one. Just everyone poo poo scared of you, kidnapping motherfuckers and torturing them for funsies. Diplomacy is great though, make friends, everyone loving you, tons of prestige. Learning is situational but cool. I haven't played any martial characters yet, but i think that'll be my next game. Try to stack up knight effectiveness bonus and roleplay family power ranger killing peasants.

I've only played Tribals and they need prestige like air. So majesty counter-intuitively feels almost necessary for a young ruler.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

ilitarist posted:

I've only played Tribals and they need prestige like air. So majesty counter-intuitively feels almost necessary for a young ruler.

Going to war, either on your own or helping allies/vassals/liege also works really well, you actually get a lot of prestige/fame from battles.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

KingKapalone posted:

Then all of my land gets split up between my sons so my new ruler would have to go to war to win all that stuff back? Why doesn't my heir actually get all my stuff?

Welcome to gavelkind, or confederate partition as it's called in this game. Every realm has a succession scheme. For most realms in the early game, it's confederate partition. What that means is that when you die, your stuff is divided up among your legal heirs (in your case, your sons). However, you as a player only get to follow one of them, whichever is your heir. The solution to this is to change the succession scheme for your favorite titles to something that isn't gavelkind/partition, such as tanistry or Scandinavian elective. However, those come with their own set of problems. It's not until much later that you get to change your realm to primogeniture, i.e. oldest heir takes it all.

edit: Note that the realm succession scheme is separate from title succession. Your realm will typically still be gavelkind while your titles are elective.

KingKapalone posted:

Also, what does this mean? She is my second (imprisoned) son's wife. Don't know how to press the claim.

When you declare war on another ruler and you have someone in your court with a claim, you can choose their claim as the casus belli. If you win, they get the title and become your vassal.

Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Sep 7, 2020

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Okay, you remember yesterday how I was having a problem with the realm getting stupidly divided up for no good reason. WELL I FOUND OUT WHAT CAUSED IT



In this picture the Jarldom of Vestfold has Scandi elective (hereafter reduce to SE) and so does the Kingdom of Norway. All well and good, and I can continue to receive the full amount of counties when my ruler dies. All good so far.

However the second I institute SE in The Empire of Scandinavia it all goes to poo poo and I get this



Having also lost a load of other provinces beforehand.

To me this seems like a bug, there is nothing mentioning that setting your highest title to something else should cause lower ranked titles to go to some random other bugger in the family line.

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Gasmask
Apr 27, 2003

And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee

KingKapalone posted:

Also, what does this mean? She is my second (imprisoned) son's wife. Don't know how to press the claim.


Characters can have claims on certain titles and they often want you (as a powerful ruler) to 'press' them; they want you to go to war against whoever holds that title, so you can beat them and put the claimant in place.

Mechanically, you do this when declaring war - you choose 'Agathe's claim(s)' - and if you're successful that claimant will take over whatever title was being disputed. If the claimant is already a vassal of yours (and the pressed claim is to a title that's lower rank than yours) they will stay your vassal, meaning the land you fought for becomes part of your realm - so it can be helpful in terms of expansion. However, if they're not your vassal they will usually become independent (or slot into whatever the relevant feudal hierarchy is), meaning you get gently caress all (except a new ruler who likes you more).

If you don't press their claims or they don't have a good reason to stick around (title, council position etc) they'll leave and try and get someone else to do their fighting for them.

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