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Camrath posted:Also, when do vendors restock? I appear to have bought every single energy cell in CS, Denver and the Bizarre and am starting to have an ammo crisis As far as I'm aware the only vendors that restock are the ones at Ranger HQ and only when you level up enough for them to get higher pevel stock. Are you using energy cell qeapons on most of your squad? Other than the early game where I was hurting for money I was never short on ammo.
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exquisite tea posted:Supreme LOL to you if you ever try to sit there calculating hit chance instead of YOLOing it up with the confidence that you will suceed every time. 30% chance to hit? lets fuckin do this. *crits for 600 damage and gains ap back* 
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Sep 7, 2020 17:39
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I have three cyberchickens, got an STD from a robot, and I just turned a drunk hobo into a porn star. I think I like this game.
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Sep 7, 2020 17:46
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Demoralize is completely broken for me in my coop campaign. You can confirm the AOE and Cordite will tell them to eat poo poo, but nothing happens and no AP is spent.
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Sep 7, 2020 21:05
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I have a similar issue with hacking robots. I can select the ability but if I hover over an appropriate target, it turns into a gun reticle. Confirming will shoot the gun.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:36
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I just did the Gippers mission and sided with the Machines -- now the ... Machines all hate me and even though they won't attack me they call me a murderer? but only SOME of them -- Greet-O is fine edit: this kind of bug in an RPG is the absolute loving worst because it's like hours of progress you've lost and now SAL is constantly giving me poo poo over the radio 
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Sep 7, 2020 23:46
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Soo since skill increases cost more and more points, and skill books increase by +1 no matter the cost... I should save them and use them to go from 9 to 10, right?
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Sep 7, 2020 23:47
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grobbo posted:The endgame slides give the impression that if you stick around in Colorado after supporting the Patriarch, you become indispensable to him and will determine the line of succession when he kicks the bucket, so the problem really does solve itself so long as you don't go nuts and unify a bunch of violent gangs in order to take down the guy who intends to support Arizona as an honest broker. . It's definitely an unusually one-sided take on the standard faction choice in RPGs, and I can't figure out if it's a deliberate subversion or not. I've seen everyone discussing this ending choice and the part I'm missing is how Angela will just abandon the violent gang part wholesale if you've killed off Cordite. Same when it comes to sparing the Patriarchs children, she'll just accept it. I mean, it's still signposted pretty hard that you're making the wrong decision by her deathsquading your former companions but it's not really that bad either. In my ending the refugees and marshals banded together with the rangers and that was that. Gangs were all comically pacified, gippers on a heavy leash and the 100 families reluctantly but peacefully accepted the transition of power. It forces the rangers to move to Colorado but on the other hand I think the game pretty firmly establishes that Arizona is on its last legs. The patriarch is personally responsible for so many of the pointless deaths in the game that I kind of struggle with seeing him as good by comparison. I don't think it's one-sided. You get to gamble on whether radical or incremental change is what the institutions of Colorado worth preserving need to survive.
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Sep 7, 2020 23:49
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PirateBob posted:Soo since skill increases cost more and more points, and skill books increase by +1 no matter the cost... I should save them and use them to go from 9 to 10, right? Correct.
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Sep 7, 2020 23:55
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I've managed to get 2 skill books for some skills and I'm pretty sure I saw the entire map. That said, I can't remember which skills specifically (plus there's skill boosting gear).
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Sep 8, 2020 00:00
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And if you have items that increase skills you don't even need to do that. You can get the mechanics book, a hat and utility item to boost it all in Colorado Springs, so if you beeline to rank 7 you're done with it.
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Sep 8, 2020 00:02
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toasterwarrior posted:I've managed to get 2 skill books for some skills and I'm pretty sure I saw the entire map. That said, I can't remember which skills specifically (plus there's skill boosting gear). That's unfortunate? I got like 8 of them and only just recently started using them to hit up my level 9 skills. You can find a good portion of them through vendors on your travels.
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Sep 8, 2020 00:08
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Nah I mean like, I'm sure every skill has a guaranteed book drop, but only some of them have more than one guaranteed.
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Sep 8, 2020 00:15
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Hm, holding onto skill books would have been smart but you never know when you’ll need that critical speech check!
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PirateBob posted:Soo since skill increases cost more and more points, and skill books increase by +1 no matter the cost... I should save them and use them to go from 9 to 10, right? On PS4 it actually lets me use each book twice (or rather, the "are you sure you want to read this?" prompt comes up twice and if I confirm both times I gain 2 points), I'm not sure if the same thing happens on other platforms. Though to be honest by the end of the game I was struggling to find things to spend my skill points on other than just leveling Brawling for combat speed or First Aid for unnecessary better healing on everyone or whatever, you get more than enough to completely ignore skill books and be fine. Use them whenever you come across a check you can't pass 
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Sep 8, 2020 00:36
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Holy poo poo the last battle with Liberty has to be the dumbest loving thing in the world. She get the drop on you with a bunch of death machines and snipers. She killed 5 members of my party in the first round. What the christ is this bullshit.
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speaking of skill books my favourite bug happened when i used one on my hard rear end character who was at 3+2 points of it by wearing the helmet and accessory that give a point. well after using the skill book she was suddenly at 9 points of hard rear end, and taking the equipment off left her at 7! no idea what happened there but i'm not gonna complain about 3 skill points materialising out of nowhere.
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Sep 8, 2020 01:21
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Natural 20 posted:Holy poo poo the last battle with Liberty has to be the dumbest loving thing in the world. Nerd Stuff, Hard rear end or Kiss rear end 10 all completely trivialize that fight.
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Natural 20 posted:Holy poo poo the last battle with Liberty has to be the dumbest loving thing in the world. i used nerd stuff to hack her robots, lockpicked the door to the generator to disable the turrent guns. you need 10 in all of those skills though. also 10 in hardass bypasses the fight completely that area of the game was pretty rough in that having the enemy get first strike on you was almost always a game over or you had like 1 guy left when it was your turn ASenileAnimal fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Sep 8, 2020 01:59
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MiddleOne posted:I think the game pretty firmly establishes that Arizona is on its last legs. I don't get that implication at all, I think it's that Arizona got hosed up by the end of WL2 and needs to be rebuilt. It hasn't been that long since the previous game ended, possibly the same year even.
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Defiance Industries posted:I don't get that implication at all, I think it's that Arizona got hosed up by the end of WL2 and needs to be rebuilt. It hasn't been that long since the previous game ended, possibly the same year even. I swear somewhere it said it had been about five years and the Rangers were getting desperate as their numbers/supplies dwindled. Hence why they’re willing to help the Patriarch at all. It’s definitely not the same year, Angela had time to set out with a whole expedition and get them all killed and be gone for a while. 
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Defiance Industries posted:I don't get that implication at all, I think it's that Arizona got hosed up by the end of WL2 and needs to be rebuilt. It hasn't been that long since the previous game ended, possibly the same year even. Jodie explicitly says without aid from Colorado her parents and most people in the area are going to starve to death because of the cascading fallout from blowing up the Cochise AI and the Ranger HQ in 2
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Zore posted:Jodie explicitly says without aid from Colorado her parents and most people in the area are going to starve to death because of the cascading fallout from blowing up the Cochise AI and the Ranger HQ in 2 And guess what: they do if you abandon them. It's why I don't gently caress with staying in Colorado and side with the Patriarch; November was there in order to make sure Arizona gets saved as well and letting them die is extremely lovely.
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toasterwarrior posted:And guess what: they do if you abandon them. It's why I don't gently caress with staying in Colorado and side with the Patriarch; November was there in order to make sure Arizona gets saved as well and letting them die is extremely lovely. I literally just overthrew the Patriarch and became dictator of Colorado and Jodie's parents survived no problems after I sent supplies back.
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Natural 20 posted:I literally just overthrew the Patriarch and became dictator of Colorado and Jodie's parents survived no problems after I sent supplies back. Ooh, that's good to know. Probably should aim to get that "golden" ending if it's possible on my replay once this game gets unfucked on a technical level.
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I feel a lot of nuance was lost by making so many antagonist factions blood-blood-blooooood meat-bicycle piles-of-corpses-as-decor psychopaths.
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You know, I think the game may possibly allow for you to keep the "good" companions in regards to the spoiler conflict: namely, managing to keep both Lucia and Kwon on your side if you dig around for dirt on the Patriarch enough. I reckon his wives might be the determining factor. Dunno if you can keep Greatski with you tho, and basically have the only mutineers be these no-name ranger recruits. The mutineers are interesting too: the Cotters and Gett will go against you if you fight Angela Deth, but if the Arapahos are your chosen mechanics, I reckon they'll stick with you. Considering that of all the factions, I managed to completely max out the Refugees, I could probably take the hit from arresting Mama Cotter and still remain in Loved status, and therefore use that to calm the rioters in end game.
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marshmallow creep posted:I have a similar issue with hacking robots. I can select the ability but if I hover over an appropriate target, it turns into a gun reticle. Confirming will shoot the gun. This happened to me a bunch until I realized it was because the robots were out of range of the hack ability. I think the range is pretty short, like 6m.
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Wondering what you guys think is better a luck or awareness death wish sniper? Right now I have coord and int maxed with death wish and am struggling with this debate.
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I think BDSM is better than death-wish. You can fire 3/2 for comparable damage with more mobility. I say AWA, but I prefer reliability over random bonuses.
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Destro posted:Wondering what you guys think is better a luck or awareness death wish sniper? Right now I have coord and int maxed with death wish and am struggling with this debate.
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Does giving Fishlips the oilfields actually result in Colorado Springs having oil / people ceasing to complain about not having it?
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The Lone Badger posted:Does giving Fishlips the oilfields actually result in Colorado Springs having oil / people ceasing to complain about not having it? The ending says they "figure it out" so eventually, yes, but not right away.
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Defiance Industries posted:The ending says they "figure it out" so eventually, yes, but not right away. Theres basically no info online about this ending I can find, so hope you can shed further light on this. I know the Gippers being alive do supply Colorado Springs if you have Reagan hostage and the Machine Commune give oil to everyone meaning there's not really enough for Springs but does the Fishlips ending actually have them supply the city with oil or does it just say they work out how to make it? I'm literally at this choice right now. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Defiance Industries posted:I don't get that implication at all, I think it's that Arizona got hosed up by the end of WL2 and needs to be rebuilt. It hasn't been that long since the previous game ended, possibly the same year even. It's been 20 years, iirc. The Lone Badger posted:I feel a lot of nuance was lost by making so many antagonist factions blood-blood-blooooood meat-bicycle piles-of-corpses-as-decor psychopaths.
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I found Santas deranged workshop but the quest is bugged out so I can't actually free the elves, as soon as I let them go they run to the edge of the map and just stand there and I have to Alt + F4. Has anyone else had this bug? I guess I can just force them to continue making drugs for the rangers?
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Dravs posted:I found Santas deranged workshop but the quest is bugged out so I can't actually free the elves, as soon as I let them go they run to the edge of the map and just stand there and I have to Alt + F4. Has anyone else had this bug? I had the same thing! If you've already deactivated the bomb collars, you can't even force them to continue making drugs, unfortunately - if you try to do it, they just make a dash for it and the same stuck animation plays.
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Just shoot them and pretend it worked.
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The Lone Badger posted:I feel a lot of nuance was lost by making so many antagonist factions blood-blood-blooooood meat-bicycle piles-of-corpses-as-decor psychopaths. I think it works as contrast with the Patriarchs society. Its a grim reminder of what is out there is so much worse than whatever crimes he has comitted Ironically enough it was Liberty who convinced me to side with the Patriarch with her speech about how the patriarch legit wants to help out the rangers because he wants to build alliances with like minded states and rebuild America. All game long you expect some kind of catch to the deal but nope he earnestly wants to help out the rangers (after they help him first ofc) babypolis fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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itry posted:It's been 20 years, iirc. It's been 20 years since Wasteland 1. 3 takes place about 5 years after 2. 2 is set in 2102 and 3 in 2107.
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