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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Ep 3: Black Noir crying I thought he was laughing.
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Aphrodite posted:Also, based on the season 1 race storyline it seems like the Seven only want the fastest speedster in the world. A-Train beats Marathon Man but does it while juiced because it's his only way out of poverty
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Sep 7, 2020 21:45
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Jedit posted:Without Rayner the Boys have nothing. They're five fugitives from the law with no resources. Why should Vought care about them? They killed Translucent. The boys are literally the only threat that exists to them at all on the planet. Even if a minor threat, why let that linger? Accretionist posted:If there's a coup afoot, The Boys help distract Vought and muddy the situation. Yeah, its this. Vought is doing some serious shenanigans, trying to play three-card-monte with the world. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Sep 7, 2020 22:35
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:So what kind of leverage does Butcher's wife that she was able to bargain for his life? She's locked inside of a supermax compound with Superman, and it's not like she could stop him from doing whatever it is he feels like doing at any particular moment. He wants Butcher to suffer seeing that he spends time with Butcher's wife and Butcher can't do dick about it Homelander isn't afraid of him, so he's toying with him.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:35
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Yeah prior to Episode 3 I figured that the Supes allowed the Boys to live because they didn't want to deal with the nuisance of Compound V news getting released. Now that the cat's out of the bag I'm assuming they're going to try a lot harder to kill them? IDK I'm probably giving it too much thought to why the Boys haven't been killed yet when the answer is "because the show is called The Boys"
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Sep 7, 2020 22:38
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I sort of assumed the Compound V thing was like the only leverage the Boys has at all. Now that the cat is out of the bag... what threat do 4 regular, slightly clever people and one super strong person have against the 6 deadliest and most powerful people on the planet? From what we’ve seen of Homelander, it makes more sense for him to keep Hughie alive to manipulate Starlight than it does for him to kill them all outright. If he wanted Butcher dead he had ample opportunity to kill them. Someone is playing the Boys and we haven’t met them yet, IMO
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Sep 7, 2020 22:43
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RudeCat posted:Would you like a Fresca? 
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Sep 7, 2020 22:48
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Bust Rodd posted:I sort of assumed the Compound V thing was like the only leverage the Boys has at all. Now that the cat is out of the bag... what threat do 4 regular, slightly clever people and one super strong person have against the 6 deadliest and most powerful people on the planet? I could see it being Giancarlo Esposito doing some 4th dimensional chess moves. But the boys DO still pose a threat; they killed Translucent. And other than Homelander, the other supes are varying levels of invulnerable, so with preparation they could definitely continue to do damage. Its like the old Batman v Superman argument; if its a straight fight, Superman always wins. But if Batman has time to do detective work and research and prepare tools, set traps, and surprises Superman, then he can take him down. The boys are the same. Not to mention they do have a supe on their side, Kimiko alone can probably kill most supes other than Homelander. As to why the Boys aren't dead, its half them living in hiding and half Homelander being distracted playing House with his son. And also stuff like, having Starlight be kinda on their side.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:51
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Zaphod42 posted:They killed Translucent. The boys are literally the only threat that exists to them at all on the planet. Even if a minor threat, why let that linger? They were able to kill Translucent because they were able to take him by surprise - you've acknowledged this. As far as the Seven knew the Boys were disbanded; Mallory had retired; Butcher no longer had access to her files or to Rayner. But now the Seven are forewarned, they don't think Butcher's crew are any threat to them at all.
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Sep 8, 2020 00:31
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I was sick and not willing to get out of bed yesterday, so I binged all of season 1 and the S2 premiere, and finished 2 and 3 today. The number of times I literally jumped in bed and said "holy poo poo" was unreal.
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Sep 8, 2020 00:49
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CommanderApaul posted:I was sick and not willing to get out of bed yesterday, so I binged all of season 1 and the S2 premiere, and finished 2 and 3 today. Yeah my friend this show is really something special. Season 1 had a much more explosive start, if you'll forgive the pun, but I feel like Season 2 is building up to a great payoff.
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Sep 8, 2020 00:53
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It seems like the comic kills were a lot more brutal but I have a hard time believing it was so easy to kill some of them. like comic Stormfront is supposed to be up there in Homelander tier of strength and durability and he gets murked by 5 people who just beat him up a lot? I mean at least I can understand Kimiko is going to be somewhat of an equalizer since she's a supe, but it's weird to think some grumpy Falklands war vet is stacking bodies with just a crowbar. .
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Sep 8, 2020 01:08
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Panfilo posted:It seems like the comic kills were a lot more brutal but I have a hard time believing it was so easy to kill some of them. like comic Stormfront is supposed to be up there in Homelander tier of strength and durability and he gets murked by 5 people who just beat him up a lot? I mean at least I can understand Kimiko is going to be somewhat of an equalizer since she's a supe, but it's weird to think some grumpy Falklands war vet is stacking bodies with just a crowbar. . Comic Boys are also all dosed up on Compound V to give them super strength and toughness, it mentions very early on they’re tougher and stronger than most supes. Which to this day is dumb as poo poo and undermines the whole thing, having The Boys be unpowered (mostly) adds way more weight to the victories they do get.
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Sep 8, 2020 01:13
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Bussamove posted:Comic Boys are also all dosed up on Compound V to give them super strength and toughness, it mentions very early on they’re tougher and stronger than most supes. Which to this day is dumb as poo poo and undermines the whole thing, having The Boys be unpowered (mostly) adds way more weight to the victories they do get. It would've been more interesting if it was some 'anti compound V' that nullified supe powers and brought their adversaries down to size, to emphasize with how little supes can cope with being a normie. They could have moments of great tension where Hughie has to 'pretend' Translucent is invisible and play around with the ambiguity of whether Homelander knows or even cares. Panfilo fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Sep 8, 2020 01:20
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Panfilo posted:Plus, it's a little hypocritical of Butcher. If being a supe was so corrupting then by his own admission he just signed his death warrant. “Butcher is a massive hypocrite and coward” is basically theboys.txt so I’m perfectly fine with that part of it at least. 
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Sep 8, 2020 01:21
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Panfilo posted:Plus, it's a little hypocritical of Butcher. If being a supe was so corrupting then by his own admission he just signed his death warrant. Just a necessary sacrifice towards his ultimate goal.
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Sep 8, 2020 01:27
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Necrothatcher posted:I don't think Stormfront is specifically modelled after Loomer - their politics might be similar but their personalities are completely different. Nah, she’s definitely Loomer. Laura’s whole thing was that she was an outspoken, straight-talking millennial - and a woman to boot! Let’s write a hundred glowing features on her, this “alt-right” is the new hotness! It was only later that she went completely bonkers. I wonder if they will have Stormfront utter the immortal line “I’ve got big tits and an Ashkenazi IQ”?
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Sep 8, 2020 02:09
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I'm having a fun time arguing that Storm front is indeed a racist with someone. Jfc. I guess he's the blind audience that needs the torture scene
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Sep 8, 2020 02:39
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RC Cola posted:I'm having a fun time arguing that Storm front is indeed a racist with someone. Jfc. I guess he's the blind audience that needs the torture scene
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Sep 8, 2020 02:50
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FilthyImp posted:So the scene(s) in Ep3 don't move the needle? Because when she murked the dad, then the family, then the brother is was pretty clear. Don't forget the random guy on the stairwell she threw out the window and the one (two) floors she tore open on the way up!
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Sep 8, 2020 02:54
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RC Cola posted:I'm having a fun time arguing that Storm front is indeed a racist with someone. Jfc. I guess he's the blind audience that needs the torture scene Knowing this show, Stormfront should do increasingly awful things all season. So this is like having a friend in S1 who is arguing that Homelander is a good guy unlike A-Train. You just need to get to the airplane scene and that cements it. Stormfront will have similar scenes. But yeah some people...
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Sep 8, 2020 02:55
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I hope Stormfront doesn’t stick around too long. I don’t know how many racist/Nazi scenes I can stomach.
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Sep 8, 2020 02:57
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RC Cola posted:I'm having a fun time arguing that Storm front is indeed a racist with someone. Jfc. I guess he's the blind audience that needs the torture scene They have GOT to be trolling you, what the hell! She's coded alt-right pretty hard. "Stormfront" Buzzed side of head From Oregon Blew up a building that appeared to be largely POC-occupied Said "I do this... because of my racism" to the Asian man before killing him sponges posted:I hope Stormfront doesn’t stick around too long. I don’t know how many racist/Nazi scenes I can stomach. Yeah I don't want to sound like a triggered lib or snowflake or whatever, but I just... don't have much of an appetite for this. It's like when Ramsay Bolton had his 10th scene of torturing someone and I was just, BRO I get it
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Sep 8, 2020 03:07
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RC Cola posted:I'm having a fun time arguing that Storm front is indeed a racist with someone. Jfc. I guess he's the blind audience that needs the torture scene Yeah I thought they were just going to make her a white supremacist without ever saying it out loud but I guess that would be too subtle for some so they added in a slur. My theory is that she is related to Vought somehow. Overall I thought the first episodes were pretty weak compared to last season but maybe it picks up and that’s why they released the first three at once. It seems like they have no idea what to do with Deep and A-Train but I’ll wait a little longer to judge that part of it. A-Train not ratting Starlight out made no sense imo.
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Sep 8, 2020 03:17
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Knowing this show and the source material...it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this Stormfront wasn't a female clone of Vought. Or ~intersexed~ because WHY NOT?
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Sep 8, 2020 03:20
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I'm just waiting for her to be on the brink of defeat, until she yells ASHKENAZI! at the top of her lungs and shazams into the body of this rear end in a top hat But also she's definitely either Liberty, clone of Liberty, or grand-daughter of Liberty, given that clunky reveal at the start of Episode 3
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Sep 8, 2020 03:22
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My personal theory is Stormfront is either Liberty/her descendent doing a "hello fellow kids" act to recruit people for her superrace which lines up perfectly with Edgar's goals of mass supersoldier production
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Sep 8, 2020 03:27
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I'm just waiting for her to be on the brink of defeat, until she yells ASHKENAZI! at the top of her lungs and shazams into the body of this rear end in a top hat Who is liberty? Also I was able to get through to the guy by walking him through the scene. Are we spoiling? "Look at her expression before she murders the first black man. Notice she kills the family next. Notice the black man in the stairwell. Notice she explodes the building after confirming it's mostly non white people. Notice how she says" yellow loving bastard" before murdering an Asian man. Just to be safe I tagged it.
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Sep 8, 2020 03:49
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RC Cola posted:Who is liberty? As to the spoiler, it gives away the game and is a nice growing reveal.
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Sep 8, 2020 03:53
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Or a hermaphrodite because WHY NOT? yeah hi don't say this
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Sep 8, 2020 04:01
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RC Cola posted:Who is liberty? I can't believe someone had to see that more than once to understand Stromfront is racist.
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Sep 8, 2020 04:01
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Zaphod42 posted:I could see it being Giancarlo Esposito doing some 4th dimensional chess moves. Homelander sees normal humans as below him and went around the world making supes with random, unknowable powers just so he could have bad guys to fight. He truly doesn't think anyone can stop him. As for Kimiko, she lost the fight to Black Noir, A-Train and would have lost to her brother too if he wasn't holding back. She's pretty weak compared to the 7. Homelander and as a follow on the 7 don't see The Boys as a threat. Other groups might but most of the other groups we've seen are in a power struggle with HL/supes, so I doubt they're trying their best to stop them. Woden fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Sep 8, 2020 04:25
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Or intersexed because WHY NOT? Being an intersex person isn't on par with being a nazi. This is a weird thing to say. Edit: Revised terminology How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Sep 8, 2020 04:29
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I was more so referring to the fact that it'd keep with Ennis (who doesn't have anything to do with this show besides the "Based On" byline) doing things purely for shock value, but fair enough.
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Sep 8, 2020 04:34
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How Wonderful! posted:Being a hermaphrodite isn't on par with being a nazi. This is a weird thing to say. I think it was a bad post but I don't think that's at all what they were saying. BIG HEADLINE posted:I was more so referring to the fact that it'd keep with Ennis (who doesn't have anything to do with this show besides the "Based On" byline) doing things purely for shock value, but fair enough. FYI that's an outdated term and not medically or scientifically used or accurate, and potentially harmful. Say "intersex" next time (or don't say anything).
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Sep 8, 2020 04:39
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But BIG HEADLINE, being intersexed isn't shocking or something you should play up for shock value! (See this week's otherwise-great episode of Lovecraft Country for a big intersex bungle) I gotta say that the showrunners really succeeded in their goal with Stormfront. Reading the pre-release articles about her character is awesome now.
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Sep 8, 2020 04:41
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Zaphod42 posted:FYI that's an outdated term and not medically or scientifically used or accurate, and potentially harmful. Say "intersex" next time (or don't say anything). I'm surprised and embarrassed that I somehow didn't know this, I apologize for the terminology gently caress-up and thank you for mentioning it. I'm more used to seeing intersex these days anyway so I don't know what was going on in my head.
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Sep 8, 2020 04:43
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How Wonderful! posted:I'm surprised and embarrassed that I somehow didn't know this, I apologize for the terminology gently caress-up and thank you for mentioning it. I didn't know either, and edited my OP.
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Sep 8, 2020 04:44
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Gotta say, Aya Cash really sells the apartment scene. She's keeping up with Antony Starr which is impressive considering he's giving one of the best performances on television right now. I rewatched it twice just to see the nuance in her absolutely vile, hateful expressions. I think it's a bit of a testament to her performance that it has made a noticeable number of people in this thread and on Reddit genuinely queasy .
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I dunno, I'm kind of enjoying watching someone poo poo on Homelander for a bit. Wonder when she's gonna lose an eye
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