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Now that Bowsette is officially over, where will you be sending your horny energy? This poll is closed. |
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| Melinda Rust (née Megamelons) |
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13 | 5.86% |
| Twitch streamers |
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9 | 4.05% |
| VTube animes |
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27 | 12.16% |
| Any of the other –ette monstrosities |
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10 | 4.50% |
| [Lie] I don’t get horny. |
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54 | 24.32% |
| Other (Bowsette) |
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93 | 41.89% |
| Now that I'm an IK, I can make my own option |
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13 | 5.86% |
| David Crossup |
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1 | 0.45% |
| Bob PSPGodenkirk |
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2 | 0.90% |
| Total: | 222 votes | ||
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"orchestral" is not how i would describe any of the good songs
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the best early songs are all buttrock soken branches out as the expansions progress but buttrock is his native habitat
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Sep 10, 2020 08:18
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The song that plays in the opening cinematic of the game is one of the most embarrassing tracks I've heard in my life.
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Sep 10, 2020 08:19
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Lurdiak posted:The song that plays in the opening cinematic of the game is one of the most embarrassing tracks I've heard in my life. you mean the title screen or the first in-game cutscene cause if you're talking about Answers then I think you and I have very different musical taste
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Sep 10, 2020 08:20
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Lurdiak posted:The basic gameplay loop is fine but this game was hyped to me as "so much better than wow" and so far that's only true of the graphics. Like I've gotten so used to the puddle-deep characters and badly thought out plot twists of wow, I never expected you could sink so much lower in terms of writing. At least the caricatures in wow have obviously defined personalities and goals and have emotions in their voices. ARR is a bad game with a bad story. The characters have personalities injected into them after that (or they're just killed for the crime of being boring as gently caress) and it gets infinitely better. The music gets really good too, although ARR has a lot of bangers itself.
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Sep 10, 2020 08:24
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answers is good but also its a song composed by nobuo uematsu 8 years ago in response to someone telling him "give us a couple dozen songs" with no context for what they'd be used for, and not really representative of everything after 2.0 which is mostly composed by a different guy who actually knows where the songs are going to be playing
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Sep 10, 2020 08:25
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homeless snail posted:answers is good but also its a song composed by nobuo uematsu 8 years ago in response to someone telling him "give us a couple dozen songs" with no context for what they'd be used for, and not really representative of everything after 2.0 which is mostly composed by a different guy who actually knows where the songs are going to be playing It's a real good song op
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Sep 10, 2020 08:27
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It's an embarrassing anime theme sung in a language that doesn't match the cadence of the composition at all.
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Sep 10, 2020 08:32
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hosed up
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Sep 10, 2020 08:32
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i have no idea what that means
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Sep 10, 2020 08:33
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FFXIV does kinda suffer from being a game that is pretty dang old at this point and it's writers, animators, etc improving with each expansion and major update. Like, the original ARR story at the time it was released was a alright MMO story, the kind that helps give context to why you are kicking this big monsters rear end or doing this dungeon, but was not gonna earn any praises beyond "I didn't skip all cutscenes". Of course expectations changed both as time went on in general and as later content ended up improving so now either going back there or coming in expecting more can be kinda painful. Edit: Answers good tho Actual edit: As is anime
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Sep 10, 2020 08:36
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here is the song in question, so non-xiv players can decide who is right and who is wrong, for themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39j5v8jlndM
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Sep 10, 2020 08:37
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Also I've played a lot of MMOs with housing systems and this is by far one of the least well thought out.
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Sep 10, 2020 08:42
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That song is a big ol nothing to me. Its not bad, its not good. Its like any random stage music in a game nobody talks about the soundtrack of.
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Sep 10, 2020 08:44
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https://youtu.be/hb0P9jHV8dQ This is the real banger. The real poo poo.
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Sep 10, 2020 08:55
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stev posted:https://youtu.be/hb0P9jHV8dQ forward and back is fine but it never really clicked with me
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Sep 10, 2020 08:56
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Answers is probably not in my top 5 FFXIV songs or anything, but anyone going so far as to declare their hate for it with zero prompting is in my books a person of deeply questionable character.
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Sep 10, 2020 09:01
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I'm getting near the end of Shadowbringers and it has a pretty good boss theme though I liked the Stormblood one better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKHUcCQ65mg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFqfN-ju1MQ i also liked the weird titania theme from a couple dungeons back and the suzaku one from the stormblood patch quests was v good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saYCZ9jzLEA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u20Py_d2aI8
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Sep 10, 2020 09:03
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answers is a Final Fantasy-rear end Final Fantasy song and is pretty good for representing the end of the world as we know it it is, as the kids say, epic the game itself is a slow burn 100%, especially in ARR, and no one is going to argue that. it was a game in recovery from the failure of 1.0 and it took a while for them to find their feet again in heavensward and beyond. it takes patience to get there but i think most people will agree that your patience is rewarded if you stick it out. comparing it to wow, ffxiv will always have advantages over it in terms of story: the player character is actually the main character and is treated as such (despite humble beginnings); the story is coherent and consistent chronologically, things happen in ways that make sense and there's an overarching story from the very beginning; characters that suck at first either develop into good characters, are left behind in their respective expansion content, or just fuckin' die, cause they sucked. it's not perfect, and it's not for everyone. but it is pretty drat good.
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Sep 10, 2020 09:18
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Re: the main character, at least up to where I've reached in SB I've never truly felt like I was the protagonist. I'm far more heavily involved than most MMO characters for sure, and there's a whole load of "chosen one" stuff but I still don't have any real agency. Alphinaud will sometimes ask my opinion and the choices will usually be different flavours of what he suggested in the first place.
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Sep 10, 2020 09:23
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i'm not saying you have choices like an open world game, or whatever, but you are treated in the story as a lot more than just Generic Horde/Alliance Soldier. you save the day and characters remember that; they don't just go back to treating you like some nobody.
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Sep 10, 2020 09:29
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Kinda at odds with its MMO-ness, much dissonance
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Sep 10, 2020 09:32
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Put those songs into a new Theatrhythm square
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Sep 10, 2020 09:36
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Jay Rust posted:Kinda at odds with its MMO-ness, much dissonance Yeah so far it's the worst of both worlds. My character never speaks and has no motivations of his own, but the plot is so on rails and my character is so central to the events that I can't really project a personality onto him like I do in other MMOs. He's the chosen one but so is every single other player, which means I can't really feel like the game's story and the gameplay story of "messing around with friends in an mmo" is connected in any way. The bad guys oppose me specifically but since I'm a blank slate there's no history or character arc that results in opposing them. My character has no real relationship with any of the NPCs except "ally" so things that happen to them don't feel like they affect me, and they're too removed from the action to "let me shine" for them to have any lives of their own that I could grasp onto. It's very strange and offputting.
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Sep 10, 2020 09:42
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FF14's presentation is pretty limited by virtue of being an mmo so the soundtrack has to do a lot of the heavy lifting. The game doesn't really start to find its identity, musically, until about when you fight Titan for the first time way back in the early game. After going through zone after zone of your typical orchestral fantasy music, he shifts into his final phase and suddenly buttrock kicks in and some dudes are shouting at you that they're an armadillo and then some guy screams TITAAAAN at you through a megaphone from a distance. It was definitely a big wtf moment when I first started playing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDEPwFmBQXM But yes there are some absolute bangers in the ost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBIRYjP1NNM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc79dfqb44s along with some nice tracks to vibe to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc-svJHHdxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFC4umN_JBw as well as your fairly typical Christmas Carol remixes of old Final Fantasy standbys, including a version of the track that plays when you fail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWQV3oEbXbY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBwJZDVdLyY Runa fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 10, 2020 09:45
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah so far it's the worst of both worlds. My character never speaks and has no motivations of his own, but the plot is so on rails and my character is so central to the events that I can't really project a personality onto him like I do in other MMOs. He's the chosen one but so is every single other player, which means I can't really feel like the game's story and the gameplay story of "messing around with friends in an mmo" is connected in any way. The bad guys oppose me specifically but since I'm a blank slate there's no history or character arc that results in opposing them. My character has no real relationship with any of the NPCs except "ally" so things that happen to them don't feel like they affect me, and they're too removed from the action to "let me shine" for them to have any lives of their own that I could grasp onto. It's very strange and offputting. I'm uh, not sure how you reached this conclusion unless you really weren't paying attention or were being deliberately obtuse.
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Sep 10, 2020 10:00
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One of the best things about a new FFXIV expansion is unironically discovering what kind of music it has in store, it's just impossible to truly predict. One my clearest memories of Shadowbringers was hearing that dungeon boss theme for the very first time, it was exactly that "what in the hell am I listening to" -> "wait this is actually great" -experience that Soken is a master of delivering.
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Sep 10, 2020 10:30
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Paid off my preorder for Super Mario 3D Collection this arvo, now all I need to do is pick it up   "I see you preordered the Game & Watch as well" "Yeah I figured it'd sell out, and I'm a bit of an old fart as I had a few of the originals" "Oh yeah I've got a few REALLY old consoles at my place. Like the SNES and the Mario Paint mouse!" *me internally* https://i.imgur.com/rAFP13z.mp4
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Sep 10, 2020 10:44
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Literally every time Answers has come up in the game besides that first cutscene posted earlier when I had no context for it, it has given me chills every time, the way it's been used as a leitmotif is extremely good
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Sep 10, 2020 10:49
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The SNES is really old.
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Sep 10, 2020 10:50
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stev posted:The SNES is really old. Then what's that make the NES? 
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Sep 10, 2020 10:52
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:(because they need a steady supply of weaker players to own.) *pwn
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Sep 10, 2020 10:53
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A Sometimes Food posted:I'm uh, not sure how you reached this conclusion unless you really weren't paying attention or were being deliberately obtuse. lol ARR had a weird needle to thread where they needed to write an MSQ that could be played by both new players and also folks from 1.0 who didn't want to reset (in the latter case they were literally sent forward in time 5 years from 1.0, also everyone's memory of the player character has been suppressed) At the end of the MSQ they were able to collapse the wave function and everyone properly recognizes how cool the WoL is regardless of starting point
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Sep 10, 2020 10:53
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I didn't see anyone mention this after I checked the Alpha Protocol thread (which apparently died 5 years ago I'm so mad that it got withdrawn from all stores since I only had it on 360 back in the day. Really want to replay it but it's surprisingly hard to locate even with  . I found a few second hand disks for sale but I don't have a disk drive so RIP.
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Sep 10, 2020 10:53
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), but Raycevick did one of his Decade Later Deepdive videos on AP:
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Also yes everyone in FF14 knows the housing market is a complete shambles (and has actually been frozen due to COVID), they are working on reforming the housing situation soon
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Sep 10, 2020 10:56
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They're also adding in a few more wards with 5.35, and they mentioned upgrading the housing servers entirely but that has to be put off due to covid.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:02
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah so far it's the worst of both worlds. My character never speaks and has no motivations of his own, but the plot is so on rails and my character is so central to the events that I can't really project a personality onto him like I do in other MMOs. He's the chosen one but so is every single other player, which means I can't really feel like the game's story and the gameplay story of "messing around with friends in an mmo" is connected in any way. The bad guys oppose me specifically but since I'm a blank slate there's no history or character arc that results in opposing them. My character has no real relationship with any of the NPCs except "ally" so things that happen to them don't feel like they affect me, and they're too removed from the action to "let me shine" for them to have any lives of their own that I could grasp onto. It's very strange and offputting. That's the general way of it though. WoW has the same 'problem'. The story basically assumes you are The Protaganist, your guild is A Band Of Adventurers, and all the primary plot characters do all the heavy lifting. You're generally there just to be the murderhobo. I think some of the recent chronologies for WoW finally put to rest which faction canonically kills which raid bosses as well.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:02
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Imagine that, a year for each owner of Alpha Protocol.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:03
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I played through Alpha Protocol like 5 times. It was one of the first games I can remember thinking, the action gameplay is an active detriment and this would have been better as a visual novel
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Sep 10, 2020 11:07
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I played through Alpha Protocol like 5 times. I sort of agree but playing the game as a someone who can go invisble at will and pistol headshot five people in a second is really fun, albeit very broken. Martial arts was also pretty great. Just sprinting through the levels beating the hell out of everyone. The writing and insane reactivity was obviously the main draw of the game though.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:12
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