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Panzeh posted:Being allied with your vassal is mostly there for relationship purposes and so you can help them against rebels. They don't join outside wars and don't bring you into wars they start with outsiders. Important thing one can miss is that allied vassal doesn't join factions.
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I wouldn't bother improving your vassals' territory much tbh. Maybe your direct vassals' personal domains, but even that is a pretty small rate of return. Your vassals' vassals? Not even worth considering.
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Sep 10, 2020 10:57
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I'm up to my fifth (?) character, and I'm just now noticing that, in addition to everything else, there's height. I mean, giants and dwarfs are things, but there's also just ordinary, "some folks are taller than other folks" height. Just because my current king is like, over a head smaller than his father, and looks sort of silly in his armor. I also don't usually do the "hunt down good genetics for the best traits" thing, but when telling to arrange by alliance power, I notice that one of the most powerful guys I can matrilineally betroth my genius, hale daughter to is himself beautiful..... well, it's really not the sort of opportunity you back away from, now, is it?
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Sep 10, 2020 11:05
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I wouldn't bother improving your vassals' territory much tbh. Maybe your direct vassals' personal domains, but even that is a pretty small rate of return. Your vassals' vassals? Not even worth considering. it's usually worthwhile, if early in the game, to at least check they have the first tier of cash income buildings in their counties. It does seem to help them get the cashflow they need to start developping earlier (was the same in CK2).
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Sep 10, 2020 11:08
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It really sucks being the target of a crusade because one of your vassals had a county in the British Isles you didn't know about. There was also the reverse thing once where the Fylkir called for a great holy war for Norway because a vassal of East Francia had a single county in southwest Norway that I just kinda left alone because I didn't really want a war with East Francia. Barely managed to win that, and when it was over the popup message on top of the screen said I lost the holy war, but the event popup was the usual victory event.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:15
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Ok, this is annoying. I had a really great start as Haestein, and I made the Kingdom of Brittany, and no achievement. Well somehow ironman got disabled between me ENABLING it and me starting the game. Frustrating. I pulled out such a clutch win in that first war even after the French got involved! Maybe I'll try invading the kingdom of Africa next time, see how that goes.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:25
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I'm sure this has been asked a bunch but whats the gameplay difference of partition vs confederate partition? I'm playing as the tutorial character start but I'm some way into my game of it now
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Sep 10, 2020 11:33
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There isn't a way to allow male/female courtiers to have council jobs and be knights while still having male/female only inheritance, right? I seem to remember it was possible to do that in CK2.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:35
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Veryslightlymad posted:I'm up to my fifth (?) character, and I'm just now noticing that, in addition to everything else, there's height. I mean, giants and dwarfs are things, but there's also just ordinary, "some folks are taller than other folks" height. Just because my current king is like, over a head smaller than his father, and looks sort of silly in his armor.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:39
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Jose posted:I'm sure this has been asked a bunch but whats the gameplay difference of partition vs confederate partition? Say you have one Duke title but also enough counties to make another duchy. Under partition the counties are dished out and their holders are vassals of the duke. Under CP the second duchy is created, and then of course the second duke will not be a vassal of the first.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:40
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Broken Cog posted:There isn't a way to allow male/female courtiers to have council jobs and be knights while still having male/female only inheritance, right? I seem to remember it was possible to do that in CK2. I don't think so, other than that women can be spymasters even if you have male only inheritance. CK2 had events where skilled women could get council jobs they normally couldn't get, though it would lower your vassals opinion of you, but I don't think there was a way to just hand out council jobs to them unless you had gender equality either in the rules or through the religion changes in Holy Fury? Women could be commanders if you were norse and made them shieldmaidens I guess, dunno if the other pagan groups had something similar to that. I don't think Catholics could.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:58
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You can definitely still make your mother into your spymaster, which is really helpful for not getting immediately assassinated after you inherit.Dwesa posted:I noticed this too on main screen, my current dynasty is almost dwarfish compared to previous one. And when I see potential spouse with good traits that looks like Dolores Umbridge, I rather find someone else. The evolution from ruler to ruler is fascinating to me, and the main reason why I want my heirs to be my own. I think that I will switch to another character if the wrong person inherits. Painting the map is only really my focus if it seems like the character I am playing would have that focus. And sometimes to smooth up my borders. But watching how the different branches of my dynasty start taking on their own look is totally my jam.
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Sep 10, 2020 12:20
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Can you not name your grandkids anymore? My kids are giving really dumb names to their kids and its pissing me off. What the hell kind of name is roubaud? I don't want to play as a roubaud 
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Sep 10, 2020 12:28
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Veryslightlymad posted:You can definitely still make your mother into your spymaster, which is really helpful for not getting immediately assassinated after you inherit. Is there a special console command to switch characters? That would be a handy thing to be able to do
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Veryslightlymad posted:You can definitely still make your mother into your spymaster, which is really helpful for not getting immediately assassinated after you inherit. That's a point, it might be family only. I've seen both mothers and daughters being eligible for Spymaster. Not that you always want to; in one of my Haraldr Fairhair games the spymaster mother had only 4 intrigue, the Steward had 1 stewardship and the marshal 6 martial score. That was a restart.
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Sep 10, 2020 12:48
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Broken Cog posted:There isn't a way to allow male/female courtiers to have council jobs and be knights while still having male/female only inheritance, right? I seem to remember it was possible to do that in CK2. So after playing around with the Daura start I've found that you totally can. Just set your realm inheritance law to Men/Women only or Men/Women Preference. You can still do this even in religions with Equality.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:So after playing around with the Daura start I've found that you totally can. Just set your realm inheritance law to Men/Women only or Men/Women Preference. You can still do this even in religions with Equality. Sweet, cheers!
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Sep 10, 2020 12:53
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Jarvisi posted:Is there a special console command to switch characters? That would be a handy thing to be able to do You can switch characters from the menu anytime you want.
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Weebus posted:You can switch characters from the menu anytime you want. The menu when you hit esc? I don't see any options there for switching
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Sep 10, 2020 13:12
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toasterwarrior posted:Is there a benefit to landing your heir? I find myself in the position of having holdings in excess of my limit occasionally when my heir isn't as good of a steward as I'd hoped, and so have to pass the extras out to minor nobles. If I get more domain limit, then I scheme to get that poo poo back. They get more life style experience than they would otherwise.
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Jarvisi posted:The menu when you hit esc? I don't see any options there for switching That's odd, the option's available for me. Do you have ironman enabled?
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Sep 10, 2020 13:27
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I've discovered why the AI is not building stuff in their realms. They hoard their gold so they can hire 12000 mercenaries for when you attack them.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:34
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gold seems relatively pointless once you're empire level in my last game the abbasids ended up at -53000 gold. didnt stop them from blobbing up to own half the world
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Sep 10, 2020 13:37
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Excelzior posted:gold seems relatively pointless once you're empire level Deficits dont matter
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Jose posted:I'm sure this has been asked a bunch but whats the gameplay difference of partition vs confederate partition? I'm playing as the tutorial character start but I'm some way into my game of it now Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 10, 2020 13:42
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OctaMurk posted:Deficits dont matter  art imitating life
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Sep 10, 2020 13:43
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I abducted my liege thinking I will be able to take his duchy title from him in negotiation or something. But options were still the same, gain weak hook, convert etc., pretty disappointing. So I ransomed him, he was left with 0 gold and I immediately declared war on his title, because I said something funny to pope and he liked me enough to grant me claim on it. Him being financially ruined gave a bit of an advantage at least, I guess.
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I guess I made too many cloud saves, so now I can't make anymore. How can I delete old ones? I don't see any in-game way to do this.
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Dwesa posted:I abducted my liege thinking I will be able to take his duchy title from him in negotiation or something. But options were still the same, gain weak hook, convert etc., pretty disappointing. This was my sole experience of kidnapping as well. What use is it?
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Sep 10, 2020 13:53
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Oh dear me posted:This was my sole experience of kidnapping as well. What use is it? Dwesa fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 10, 2020 13:56
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Oh dear me posted:This was my sole experience of kidnapping as well. What use is it? When you have the target of a war in your jail, they are worth 100% warscore. Start an abduction plot, declare a war, abduct the target, and you win that war regardless of their holdings or troops.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:57
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Oh dear me posted:This was my sole experience of kidnapping as well. What use is it? E: Should probably read the next post before posting
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After giving CK2 a few tries over the years, yesterday I told myself I am going to get Ck3 and learn to play it. I did the tutorial and eventually became King of Ireland, then got the whole island under my vassalage. Meanwhile my wife was discovered to have had an affair with her own brother, also she kept popping out children even though she was never even living with me in the castle. So I divorced her and decided I would marry the King of France's daughter. I was immediately pulled into a war and basically everyone in my family was killed. My heir didn't fare much better, as he bankrupted the kingdom in his war to make Scotland part of Ireland and eventually I just gave up and going to start a new game. I feel like I barely scratched the surface of what to actually do in this game, but I somewhat know whats going on this time.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:21
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Oh dear me posted:This was my sole experience of kidnapping as well. What use is it? Besides what's been already said, abducting is a great way to fill up your dungeons during peacetime for ransoming/torturing, or imprisoning a vassal without having him revolt (imprisoned vassals are a hell of a lot easier to manage) also sometimes it's just funny to abduct the wife of a ruler that pissed you off, seduce her and send her back to the hubbie with your son growing in her belly.
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I've started converting my prisoners before releasing them. I'm not sure if it's a great scheme in the long run but I'm sure Catholic Vikings will be a little easier to manage (once I no longer need the holy war CB against them). You can also use hooks to force them to accept a marriage proposal, so one of my character's daughters is currently matrilineally married to the king of West Francia, meaning their children will be of my dynasty and thus contributing to my dynasty's renown. It might also be a good idea to abduct one of your vassals to prevent a faction war. Once they're in your dungeon you can easily revoke their titles and then release them while forcing them to renounce their claims.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:34
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Abduction is also handy if you try to murder someone and fail since otherwise there's a decade cooldown before you can raise a murder scheme against them again. I matri-married my granddaughter to the fourth in line for the Kanem throne and murdered two of the people in front of him, a third died in battle but with the last one my murder scheme failed and I was caught. By the time the ten years was up I figured he'd have had some kids which would mess the succession up, so I had him abducted and then just executed him. Now my dynasty will eventually sit on the throne, getting me that sweet renown.
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Oh dear me posted:This was my sole experience of kidnapping as well. What use is it? Toward the endgame of my Irish Brittania run I started abducting claimants to nearby kingdoms, recruiting them to my court and then immediately pressing their claims
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Sep 10, 2020 15:08
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violent sex idiot posted:if you turn off cloud saves it goes way faster. this helped a lot, thanks
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I'm playing a lowly count in France. Haestinn invaded and took Upper Lorainne and made a huge pagan realm right on my border. An abduction later he's Catholic and I'm married into his family. Now it didn't turn out perfectly as he was deposed by his vassals but half his children are Catholic, my daughter-in-law is quite nice, and only half his former lands are ruled by heathens.
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So I just lost my golden boy heir and his younger brother to a bunch of fuckin' peasants. I got hit with a demand to lower taxes in Whales while my armies of frothing beserkers were down in Italy, working towards the dismantling of Christendom. I said no, and a 1.5k stack of shitfarmers starts besieging my capital. (I think at one point one of my heirs moved the Empire captial from Uppsala for some reason). Queue me losing two sons in one siege, before somehow capturing the leader of the rebellion before my armies even arrived there from Italy. I tortured that motherfucker for a few years before finally offing him. I wish Astaru still had the Blot decision, but eh.
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