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Kurieg posted:This isn't the full spoiler unless the inscription cycle only has cards in blue, green, and black. Yup, it’s not a full cycle
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Kurieg posted:This isn't the full spoiler unless the inscription cycle only has cards in blue, green, and black. It is the full spoiler.
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Kurieg posted:This isn't the full spoiler unless the inscription cycle only has cards in blue, green, and black. That’s correct
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Sep 10, 2020 15:58
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Sep 10, 2020 15:59
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man i really wanted a modal white spell where one of the modes is "flicker a creature" and the whole thing inexplicably costs 1WW
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Sep 10, 2020 16:04
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how could wotc do this, major flavor fail!!!
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Sep 10, 2020 16:04
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I mean, I've got a Hallar the Firefletcher commander deck and was kind of looking forward to seeing whatever the Red spell became but 
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Sep 10, 2020 16:07
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There is so much text on these cards. I have to give Adventure credit as a mechanic, it's pretty op but it reads really nicely.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:15
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Paul Zuvella posted:It is the full spoiler. It is not the full spoiler. (You can tell by looking at the collector numbers, and the gaps therein).
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Sep 10, 2020 16:15
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Many people are saying thhis is the full spoiler, but is it? we can never truly know.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:17
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Jabor posted:It is not the full spoiler. (You can tell by looking at the collector numbers, and the gaps therein). For whatever reason, the MDFCs are in a separate pile. They fill in the missing collector numbers in the coloured cards.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:18
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Paul Zuvella posted:I think someone did the average cost of the list cards is 5$, but that's obviously skewed the same way all magic cards are skewed; a small handful of very expensive cards and a bunch of trash. The fact that the rarity is added onto this (unless they gave bad info, which they have been constantly doing for the past year) makes the proposition really awful. Given that the extra 25% increase in price is covered by the extra 25% chance for a rare the pull on THE LIST is at least a freebie. This does not absolve the set booster from being a scratch-off well above and beyond the 'did I get a good rare' aspect of a normal booster.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:31
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Not checked against the full list, but a neat thing I noticed is that each of the main non human tribes represent three of the party classes. Vampires have no wizards, Kor no rogues, Elves no warriors and Merfolk, no warriors again and goblins no clerics, with the last two groups appearing to be much smaller than the rest. I'm not counting that elf with all four types as a special ability.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:57
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Disappointed at no vampire one drop. Have we seen Deadly Alliance yet? Excellent limited card, love these guys just going full Murder on the Orient Express.  I really hope when big events return I can have Wylie Beckert sign all of their cards.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:10
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Man, it turns out that without the Eldrazi, Zendikar is an incredibly boring plane. The Party mechanic definitely feels like something they're testing for D&D plane and it doesn't really feel like there's anything unique about this but Landfall.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:11
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Invitational stream is up, with some serious unaddressed frame hitching. Like dropping 1/4 of all frames once a second. I hope they get around to fixing that it's pretty unwatchable.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:14
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party and the modal DFCs definitely feel like something that'll be more interesting in play once people get to deckbuilding and theorycrafting, but also I just think a lot of it is that this is the first set after rotation so they don't want to inject a lot of wildly experimental stuff into the game (especially given how Eldraine went) personally I'm just kind of interested in resurrecting some older mechanics that got edged out of standard, like mutate
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Man, it turns out that without the Eldrazi, Zendikar is an incredibly boring plane. The Party mechanic definitely feels like something they're testing for D&D plane and it doesn't really feel like there's anything unique about this but Landfall. I cannot believe we are at the point where we are trying to retcon BFZ being a wet turd
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Sep 10, 2020 17:21
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Man, it turns out that without the Eldrazi, Zendikar is an incredibly boring plane. The Party mechanic definitely feels like something they're testing for D&D plane and it doesn't really feel like there's anything unique about this but Landfall. It's def an overcorrection, though storywise I'm not sure what'd they do (besides more retcons). Original Zendikar was an Adventure World sure, but one where an ancient impossibility cryptic society had once existed leaving endless mysterious and profitable ruins, and an energy running through the whole plane that made it incredibly dangerous at all times. It was both fairly unique (for Magic at least) and distilled what made for good adventuring tropes. RoE did its own thing and was successful on its own merits, but breaking the mold doesn't do well for mass market sets. Then rtz failed to hit either note, not being adventurous and not handling eldrazi in a way that captures their immensity. Unfortunately the takeaway was 'people don't like eldrazi' so we get an eldrazi-less set, but the mystery is gone and the effects of their dormant presence are gone, so what set original Zendikar apart from more typical fantasy, is gone.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:24
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https://twitter.com/MagicEsports/status/1304092882324852742 Didn't this start over the weekend? Why are we doing the first feature match on Thursday morning.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:28
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I cant stand corey baumeister why wold you have this guy doing coverage for this event
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Sep 10, 2020 17:29
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 i finally got my jumpstart booster at the pre-spike prices, thanks to someone itt pointing out that a few cards had been spoiled and the price was starting to trend up quickly, so thanks!
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Time posted:I cant stand corey baumeister why wold you have this guy doing coverage for this event Nepotism. Also this stream is loving unwatchable with discord connection sounds and random frame drops.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:31
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Also, good work on coverage wizards. one of the announcers is getting a discord ping every 3 seconds and its broadcasting over the stream
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uPen posted:https://twitter.com/MagicEsports/status/1304092882324852742 This weekend's big Historic thing was an SCG thing. This one is equivalent to an old a Pro Tour (I think, maybe).
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Sep 10, 2020 17:31
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Sep 10, 2020 17:32
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Granted, figuring out how to stop discord beeping every few seconds is actually impossible.
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Sep 10, 2020 17:41
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It’s not Zendikar’s fault WotC wants to shove D&D down our throats for a year Like they really should’ve brought back Quests but no, gotta party party party
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TheKingofSprings posted:It’s not Zendikar’s fault WotC wants to shove D&D down our throats for a year yea in 2020 the warrior/cleric/wizard/etc. aethstetic isn't really evocative any more. it's been rehashed by thousands of other games + media properties. the original zendikar feels like Indiana Jones but the party mechanic feels more like a generic mobile game the mechanic wanting four different creature types in play also demands that the set is saturated with enablers and doesn't leave room for much else
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Sep 10, 2020 18:00
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BizarroAzrael posted:Disappointed at no vampire one drop. It's a good card for draft but everytime I look at I can't help focusing on the art. You're getting murdered, man, you could care a little.
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Some Goon posted:It's def an overcorrection, though storywise I'm not sure what'd they do (besides more retcons). Original Zendikar was an Adventure World sure, but one where an ancient impossibility cryptic society had once existed leaving endless mysterious and profitable ruins, and an energy running through the whole plane that made it incredibly dangerous at all times. It was both fairly unique (for Magic at least) and distilled what made for good adventuring tropes. RoE did its own thing and was successful on its own merits, but breaking the mold doesn't do well for mass market sets. What is the story supposed to be this time around? Nahiri is doing something to restore Zendikar to a more liveable state, Nissa is the foil who wants to let nature/the Roil be in charge, and Jace is around because...he's the MTG main character? I don't really even get why the skyclaves are important beyond being where the macguffins are. It seems like there's a lot less being established through the flavor text, which makes sense if they're doing the storyline posts again, but the themes do feel lackluster.
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Mat Cauthon posted:What is the story supposed to be this time around? Nahiri is doing something to restore Zendikar to a more liveable state, Nissa is the foil who wants to let nature/the Roil be in charge, and Jace is around because...he's the MTG main character? I don't really even get why the skyclaves are important beyond being where the macguffins are. You have Nahiri's and Nissa's motivations correct but Nissa is presented as the sympathetic one. She went to get Jace's help because she's learned "I can't do it alone". The skyclaves are mostly macguffin dungeons but that's fine by me because I think floating rocks and cities are kickin' rad. They are also remnants of an authoritarian kor empire from the past before the Roil, hinting that if Nahiri gets her way the kor will be able to re-establish their regime.
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wizzardstaff posted:You have Nahiri's and Nissa's motivations correct but Nissa is presented as the sympathetic one. She went to get Jace's help because she's learned "I can't do it alone". It seems like the macguffin might kill a lot of non-Kor too, if the trailer is anything to go by.
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did they release any of the web fiction they said they were going to yet?
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flatluigi posted:did they release any of the web fiction they said they were going to yet? You mean besides parts 1 and 2 of the story?
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I think Nahiri is basically trying to restore the world to the way it was when she was born, which was thousands of years ago. Nissan is basically saying that a while civilization has grown up now, and don't necessarily want things to go back to a past only one powerful wizard remembers.
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Sep 10, 2020 19:01
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I didn't know those parts were up, clearly
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little munchkin posted:yea in 2020 the warrior/cleric/wizard/etc. aethstetic isn't really evocative any more. it's been rehashed by thousands of other games + media properties. the original zendikar feels like Indiana Jones but the party mechanic feels more like a generic mobile game yeah i was interested in getting a box of this because i didn't play when zendikar came out and it seemed like such a cool set of expansions and, uh, i'm leaning pretty heavily against it now even with the box toppers because it's just not speaking to me (it doesn't help that i find dfc's annoying because i just like loving around with decks with friends, not needing sleeves and poo poo, except on arena where they work fine)
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flavor wise zendikar was cooler when the eldrazi were in the background being spooky. Zendikar without eldrazi is like twin peaks without Laura Palmer
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I agree that Party doesn't really feel like interesting flavour. "A party consisting of a wizard, a warrior, a rogue and a cleric" doesn't make me think "adventure" it makes me think "adventure game". Specifically, a game which I neither played when I young nor work for the publishers of.
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