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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


anprim memes make sense from time to time

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Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


i just want a banana

Impkins Patootie
Apr 20, 2017





Eustace posted:

He came to the anarchist bookstore at the small city i live in to give a talk a few years ago. Told a room full of white anarchist that they should consider giving america back to the natives and to go back to europe

lmao such a great heel

selec
Sep 6, 2003

Bro Dad posted:

i just want a banana

which is a kind of sausage

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Ro Laren's going to be on the Struggle Session live stream

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1304087477695713280

Edit: Didn't notice it's a ticketed show :v:

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018


The only one I've heard of of those three is ANgela Nagle. And that's only because she was on Chapo and people said it proved they were facsist.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Gripweed posted:

The only one I've heard of of those three is ANgela Nagle. And that's only because she was on Chapo and people said it proved they were facsist.

adolph reed is a cool dude who losers like the dsa idpol squad and the 1619 project lady are super mad at

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


what exactly are peoples objections to the 1619 project

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Gio posted:

what exactly are peoples objections to the 1619 project

And Adolph Reed, for that matter.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Gio posted:

what exactly are peoples objections to the 1619 project

basically it claims slavery is the result of racism, but not like actual structural racism that's the product of capitalist ideology and material conditions but racism the magical force can ever be defeated

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Gio posted:

what exactly are peoples objections to the 1619 project

i can't even find the original but here's the update

quote:

March 11, 2020

Today we are making a clarification to a passage in an essay from The 1619 Project that has sparked a great deal of online debate. The passage in question states that one primary reason the colonists fought the American Revolution was to protect the institution of slavery. This assertion has elicited criticism from some historians and support from others.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
The 1619 project is a grift

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Weirdest thing about the 1619 Project is that a while back the most substantive and researched critique of it came through Marxist analysis on the World Socialist Web Site and Ted Cruz like a loving moron just linked it on Twitter. The writer cites Engels just a few paragraphs in for god's sake!

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
the nyt made it which should be an obvious indication that it is evil and wrong

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Cruz clearly picked up on WSWS when they defended Brett Kavanaugh

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

lets just have a Gerald Horne vs Adolph Reed livestream twitch debate to settle the 1619 beef.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

MizPiz posted:

And Adolph Reed, for that matter.

he's a class-first guy. the same twitter dipshits get mad at chapo for the same thing from time to time

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Nagle managed to not understand 4chan so hard she got famous

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

The Muppets On PCP posted:

he's a class-first guy. the same twitter dipshits get mad at chapo for the same thing from time to time

Reed has also nailed Obama as a center right hack from his Illinois senate days in the 90s, whereas darling Angela Davis (of whom as many bluechecks will inform us surely none of us know better than) has evidently been nothing but steadfast in carrying water for Obama's radical bonafides

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Reed has also nailed Obama as a center right hack from his Illinois senate days in the 90s, whereas darling Angela Davis (of whom as many bluechecks will inform us surely none of us know better than) has evidently been nothing but steadfast in carrying water for Obama's radical bonafides

haha, here's Adolph subtweeting Barry-o way back in ancient year of 1996.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Weirdest thing about the 1619 Project is that a while back the most substantive and researched critique of it came through Marxist analysis on the World Socialist Web Site and Ted Cruz like a loving moron just linked it on Twitter. The writer cites Engels just a few paragraphs in for god's sake!

weirdest part about that WSWS critique was the last five paragraphs where they defended woody allen and criticized age of consent laws as bourgeois

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


lol @ reed accurately assessing am affairs and nagle and causing some primo meltdowns today among a certain type of contrarian leftist

https://twitter.com/carlbeijer/status/1304152015895920645?s=21

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1304207345145327618

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
reed's right, as usual

Paffgen
Jul 13, 2009
The American Affairs cretin (negaduck Nathan J Robinson) released the emails where Reed was like 'actually...my schedule is pretty busy, afraid I can't do this review' as some kind of smoking gun of hypocrisy. All the geniuses are tenting their fingers and chiming in.
https://twitter.com/annakhachiyan/status/1304209024083206146

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

even i tweeted out an rip on the event of his death. i shouldn't have

i retract my 3 letter condolences. this betrayal will not go unanswered

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


am affairs offering $2,000 for a book review like it’s nothing, lol nothing to see here, certainly no ghoulish dark money backers

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Wow! I don't care!

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
virgil just came to twitter to retweet this lol

https://twitter.com/TheTrueAmerica5/status/1303681310351794181?s=19

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Time for the left to splinter over a book review that didn't actually get written. Good poo poo

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1304216544659091466

HE HAS RISEN

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

Crane Fist posted:

Time for the left to splinter over a book review that didn't actually get written. Good poo poo

no one is splintering, the only people mad at Reed are the perpetually aggrieved less-idpol-than-thou types that no one gets along with anyway

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

Having tweets like this popup on your timeline devoid of any context regarding what the original inciting event was or why the gently caress anyone should care what randos on Twitter think about it really reminds you what a remarkable communication platform Twitter is.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Pizza Segregationist posted:

no one is splintering, the only people mad at Reed are the perpetually aggrieved less-idpol-than-thou types that no one gets along with anyway

Hmm. Would you say they should be expelled from the movement???

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Pizza Segregationist posted:

no one is splintering, the only people mad at Reed are the perpetually aggrieved less-idpol-than-thou types that no one gets along with anyway

he's on the perpetually aggrieved more-idpol-than-thou shitlist as well

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/08/18/reed-a18.html

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Gio posted:

what exactly are peoples objections to the 1619 project

The 1619 Project is basically steeped in this liberal conception of racism that it's just something that's in your blood and therefore can't ever really be rectified or addressed. It has a lot of parallels with the sort of Afro-Pessimism that Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote about (and was criticized by Cornel West over).

To be entirely honest, the WSWS criticism of the 1619 Project does have some problems, mostly related to WSWS being rape-apologists in general and specifically that they tend to take the 1619 Project a little too literally when they say that slavery is in the "DNA" of the nation and then lambast that as being a physical impossibility.

What really turned (at least some) people against the 1619 Project was Nicole Hannah Jones's online escapades:

* when a statue of Ulysses S Grant was pulled down, people started justifying it on the basis that, despite Grant's involvement in the Civil War and the black emancipation that it produced, Grant was also an active participant in the Indian Wars. When someone pointed out that the genocide of Native Americans was an "original sin" of America that predated even black slavery, Jones waded in to helpfully point out that even Native Americans owned black slaves, as though to assert that black people still had it worse regardless.

* Jones then on another occasion asserted that Asian-Americans never experienced racism as bad as black people did, ignoring things like the Chinese Exclusion Act or FDR's detention of Japanese-Americans.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

T-man posted:

Nagle managed to not understand 4chan so hard she got famous

everyone replicated the results at home and now everyone wants to hear from Q

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

other Virgil news

https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1304229107253817345?s=21

Divot
Dec 23, 2013

lol sick wasn't expecting that

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grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

I don't like that lady because she said Blade Runner's bad

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