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I think you will find obeying international law is TREASON  (see tomorrow's papers for more)
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Grey Hunter posted:So what are the chances of another legal challange on the government? I know they were looking at some way of stopping them, as Boris doens't want to have to follow pesky laws. Someone else may correct me on this but Legally this is something the government can do - parliamentary sovereignty and all - but it's a bloody stupid idea, and the attorney general gave a terrible legal defence of it even though it's something any law student should be ae to write a passing essay on.
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Answers Me posted:"Freedom is in peril - defend it with all your might".
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Get this: I'm going to go robbing from shops today but only in a very specific and limited way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  that is my very biting and topical HIGNFY style wit
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OwlFancier posted:Apparently michael howard doesn't like it. And the tories supposedly do not have a large majority in the lords compared to the commons. They don't need a mechanism. The Lords can only bounce the Bill twice saying "this is madness" before the Commons can pass it without their consent.
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Julio Cruz posted:hmm I wonder what happened to "well the government/big pharma will just force them to rush out a vaccine without doing the proper testing" OwlFancier posted:My theory was more that they would probably still buy it and roll it out even if it turned out to be occasionally lethal and if anything the "back to work peons" approach has only strengthened that view.  Except imagine that the satisfied man is also dying of the side effects of bozza's budget vaccine.
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crispix posted:Get this: I'm going to go robbing from shops today but only in a very specific and limited way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! turns out that the cops can't do anything if you rob the entire shop I have two premiers, a co-op and a spar now but would be willing to trade for an original style happy shopper
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Lol https://twitter.com/bojack90s/status/1304343109577453569?s=19
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crispix posted:CHEREMY CLORKSHON MAYDE A LORT OF MUNNEY FROM TORLKING LOIKE THISH Jeremy Clarkson has made more money... than the moon.
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OwlFancier posted:Came to post this, yes, it was never even known about during the war, they found it in a cupboard somewhere I think in sometime in the 2010s. I heard it was found in someone's shed. Making it a part of the grand tradition of a British person making an incredible discovery in their back garden shed that makes them rich.
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The Question IRL posted:I heard it was found in someone's shed. Making it a part of the grand tradition of a British person making an incredible discovery in their back garden shed that
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The Question IRL posted:a British person making an incredible discovery in their back garden shed that makes them rich. 
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I genuinely thought he'd have no chance with the membership even if this is from July https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1304142324201644032?s=19
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Maybe Rishi is sufficiently astromically wealthy to transcend their racial prejudices or maybe they've only heard him on the wireless and they think it's Tonty Bliar
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crispix posted:Maybe Rishi is sufficiently astromically wealthy to transcend their racial prejudices Maybe Priti Patel has convinced enough people that your skin colour doesn't mean you can't also be an enormous racist
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crispix posted:Maybe Rishi is sufficiently astromically wealthy to transcend their racial prejudices he's the richest person in the house of commons
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Tories are perfectly willing to fully back specific asian or black candidates provided they're Tories.
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Jose posted:he's the richest person in the house of commons He's richer than most of the Lords, as well. He's got something like £200m, doesn't he?
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Jedit posted:He's richer than most of the Lords, as well. He's got something like £200m, doesn't he? Not entirely sure but its definitely a lot and his father in law is worth a few billion as well
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Red Oktober posted:
Streeting is poo poo, but this is him dunking on Laurence Fox for being an idiot racist.
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It’s not the post-racial society we wanted, but it’s the post-racial society the UK deserves.
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I keep telling you, Sunak is the obvious successor. He presents himself well, has the right soft tone and is an easy progressive pick over Starmer, because there's one thing that all racists who don't think they're racist love and that is being able to say "see, I like that guy! How can I be racist?". If you're the kind of dipshit who thinks that there's a national credit card to pay off then he's easily the best counter they have to Starmer, and no I'm not happy about that either, but it's true either way.
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Jedit posted:They don't need a mechanism. The Lords can only bounce the Bill twice saying "this is madness" before the Commons can pass it without their consent. I may be wrong, but this actually only applies to things that are in/inline with a manifesto. Usually easy to justify anything given how vague manifestos are. But this is a weird situation where it directly contradicts main message of manifesto (revokes some of withdrawal agreement) so that may not actually apply this time. If actual Brexit nutters like Howard are opposing this I do wonder if people are underestimating Lords ability to block this
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Red Oktober posted:
Was so weird when I saw this. Did not expect Streeting to have a sense of humour
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gently caress it. Personal drama. Sorry.
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bustin keaton posted:I may be wrong, but this actually only applies to things that are in/inline with a manifesto. Usually easy to justify anything given how vague manifestos are. But this is a weird situation where it directly contradicts main message of manifesto (revokes some of withdrawal agreement) so that may not actually apply this time. It applies to every bill - it's just tradition that the Lords don't block manifesto pledges. They can send it back for reconsideration twice, after with the Commons can use the Parliament Act to pass it without the Lords consent.
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If they are fine for money then stop helping them? Like, that doesn't sound cuntish to me
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Sanford posted:gently caress it. Personal drama. Sorry. Being taken advantage of is really lovely and that's on your (presumably former) "friends", but if you want perhaps a slightly more positive take, if it was another friend that informed you about it, that suggests you do have people around you who recognize that it's wrong. People who think that way are the bulwark against people who would prey on the goodwill of others.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Sunak is the obvious successor. He presents himself well, has the right soft tone
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It seems premature to believe Sunak's popularity will sustain itself long enough to be relevant in a leadership contest. There's a very good reason every single thing to do with the economy and taxes has been 100% Hero Richi, with Boris absolutely nowhere to be seen.
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Given that Johnson basically won by default after every other option was exhausted or succumbed to knifing, that doesn't prevent him from still winning.
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It isn’t necessary to be rich or a beneficiary of the system to be a oval office. It comes down to solidarity. Would they help someone else out if they could? IMO the main reason to help strangers or distant acquaintances out on a private basis (instead of through a charity or redistributive taxation or whatever) is to create the conditions where they would honestly answer that question with a “yes”. If you lose their respect then it also discredits the concept of solidarity for them. I actually don’t think regular support is a good way of doing that because it’s too easy for people to take for granted after a while - road to serfdom has some truth to it. Better to make less frequent and larger gifts if that’s an option. People will reassess their thinking if you help them out of a jam once, but they’ll be fairly naturally resentful at a subconscious level of anyone having the power to take away something they have got used to.
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Who needs Europe anyway  https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1304354224956940295?s=20 *it would boost UK GDP by only 0.07%
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I don't know exactly what the UK regulations are here, but reading the linked gov.uk article the government has been able to use unlicensed products for things including pandemics since 2012. The related EU law requires that manufacturers / marketing authorisation holders are not liable for unlicensed use of their products. This new regulation (apparently) brings that into UK law as well. It also explicitly doesn't cover manufacturers making defective or inherently unsafe products. Sorry if I have derailed (?) the outrage bus.
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sinky posted:Who needs Europe anyway 新しい日本領主を歓迎します.
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Red Oktober posted:
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