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OwlFancier posted:It's just bizzare to imagine that he fucks. OwlFancier posted:Baaaarrrrtth. Angepain posted:the a sound lasts for a solid 10 seconds e: Here's a nice cat so you can forget this post. 
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kecske posted:how does the water stay in a flat bath? Surface tension
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Guavanaut posted:Here's a nice cat so you can forget this post. That is a nice cat, shame about the huntastic sofa
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Lt. Danger posted:more thinking about the workers here - if one worker is left out of the social loop and doesn't slack off with everyone else then they end up unwittingly working harder picking up others' workload, which is unfair It goes back a way. 
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Angrymog posted:That is a nice cat, shame about the huntastic sofa
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blunt posted:Sorry, I meant functionally illiterate as in "unable to parse and comprehend information, lacking critical thinking skills", not "unable to read or spell". I can see why that's doubly unclear as immediately before I was joking about spelling. Thanks for posting this, I appreciate it. Comradely hug. I kind of mean it like that tho, it’s not that they are incapable of rational thought it’s that (1) there are conscious and subconscious modes of thought, and for them for whatever reason social and political issues are in the subconscious set; and (2) older English people drink a lot and drunk people get emotional and make bad posts on social media.
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I wonder if/how the (apparently existing) trend of younger people drinking less will affect things. Certainly I find drunk people very annoying and unpleasant to be around.
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah I think I get it now, length of the vowel. No r in it, though, just a for longer.. Actually SE RP English still has a bit of a similar thing - 'man' takes longer to say than 'mat', for example.
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It's more that the southern prounciation of the a vowel sounds like it should be transcribed with an r to someone from where I live.
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sebzilla posted:Also Birmingham is locked down (from Tuesday(apart from schools/work/etc.)) We're in the 'believe our own lies' stage where they think they can stop the acceleration of infection while people have to go and work in buildings. Going back to work in closed rooms was never safe. They lied but have no idea what to do. I just wonder whether they are nihilistic and don't care or are panicking and just assumed we'd have 'something' that would make things better. Some treatment that meant only the weakest would die and gently caress them. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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Why would you post a list with 11 items on it today. https://twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/1304320736769835008?s=19
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Regarde Aduck posted:We're in the 'believe our own lies' stage where they think they can stop the acceleration of infection while people have to go and work in buildings. Going back to work in closed rooms was never safe. They lied but have no idea what to do. I just wonder whether they are nihilistic and don't care or are panicking and just assumed we'd have 'something' that would make things better. Some treatment that meant only the weakest would die and gently caress them. Remember, the Tories work on the inverse Hanlon's Razor. Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice.
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 UK health screening advisers not involved in 'moonshot' Covid plan Exclusive: Public health experts say it is ‘incomprehensible’ NSC not consulted on £100bn rapid mass testing project This government is so utterly transparent, and not in the good way. Boris gets COVID and almost dies, and a couple months later, the NHS is instructed to crack down on obesity to help against the pandemic. Despite the fact that experts have told them this would happen from the beginning, the Tories managed to delude themselves into believing that the virus was just going away, and then when the infection rates start to creep up again they panic and concoct a vague plan that makes no sense but they think they can just make it work by throwing an astronomical amount of money at it. I genuinely think a group of children would do a similar job. Maybe the silver lining will be that the public will begin to turn on them? I think a second lockdown and "Christmas is Cancelled" could be disastrous for the Tories. We already had almost all the papers (including the right-wing ones) making GBS threads on the moonshot plan and using that picture of Boris looking bewildered at the press conference.
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https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1304333932779855872?s=20 Gordon doing what we all wish we could
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Regarde Aduck posted:We're in the 'believe our own lies' stage where they think they can stop the acceleration of infection while people have to go and work in buildings. Going back to work in closed rooms was never safe. They lied but have no idea what to do. I just wonder whether they are nihilistic and don't care or are panicking and just assumed we'd have 'something' that would make things better. Some treatment that meant only the weakest would die and gently caress them. it's literally like the last six months never happened cases are rapidly accelerating, they're doing the northern Italy thing where they're like "oh we're X weeks behind France and things are starting to get bad there. Anyway, things haven't got bad here yet, so lets not do anything right now" they're even putting off closing things like pubs down in order to not damage the economy again, even though it's incredibly obvious that just means you'll eventually have to do it anyway and probably for even longer
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the BBC is already carrying water for the government paraphrasing from PM: "the R number is over 1 but it's not as bad as it was before lockdown so really it's basically fine" if they lick those boots hard enough they might get their TV licence money
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Those kids had better really loving learn a lot in the 5 weeks of attending school they're going to get this year. I'm talking PhD level papers and Mozart symphonies coming out of these 7 year olds. vvv lol I'd forgotten that was a thing. Are we still a 3? namesake fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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I wonder if they'll ever remember that the covid threat level existednamesake posted:vvv lol I'd forgotten that was a thing. Are we still a 3? you and the government both we are presumably still at three, because the last news stories about it are from when they moved it down in June, but it's not actually published anywhere as far as I can tell so we could be at extra hot and just not know it XMNN fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1304460411094401029 Perfectly normal.
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https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1304462878439862275?s=19 Lol
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When Tereezer "who?" May makes a oval office out of you
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Bojo is truly a political titan.
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XMNN posted:I wonder if they'll ever remember that the covid threat level existed 🌶🌶🌶 - A mouth-tingling sensation!!
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Lungboy posted:https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1304460411094401029 Cummings in the corner of the room, writing down the names of anyone shaking their head or looking angry/bewildered.
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The threat level is pi out of 5.
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remember when they said "we're now on an easily understandable scale of 1 - 5" and then immediately pegged us all at 3.5. Those were the salad days
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thrashingteeth posted:Bojo is truly a political titan.
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kecske posted:and then immediately pegged us all
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Why is it a sherman firefly? Why is it not a glorious BRITANE churchill or cromwell? Or the best tank, the crusader, because the turret is a funny shape.
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In re Oberstein / Communism Bitch, you’re their manager. They look to you to tell them what to do each day, and if they’re not following the rules it’s because they don’t think there’s a good reason to listen to you. So whether you’re coming at this from a leftist perspective or any other perspective, this is your problem to solve. Having said that, how do you fix it? Probably take this to the dying slowly in corporate life thread but here’s my advice fwiw. If you already know this and feel it’s patronising then apologies in advance and I’ll shut up. I wrote it because I remember how much I sucked when I started managing people. 1. Starting next week remind them again what’s expected of them. “Not Gossiping” isn’t a reasonable expectation, but for example “Looking after people when they’re in the room” or “Manning the cash till and helping people who look a bit lost in the gift shop before they come and ask for help.” are. Any criticism is worthless if it’s based on a general feeling: part of your job as a manager is to link that feeling back to specific behaviours so you can tell them what to change. People can usually remember to do things but are bad at remembering not to do things. 2. Check what they’re doing, not by hovering over their shoulder but by watching and where necessary advising on how they should do poo poo differently, within like 5-10 minutes after it happened. So many bosses don’t do this and it’s so easy to fix. If they did well say so. If not also say so but you have to tell them how they should have done it differently. If it doesn’t matter if they do it well, don’t make a fuss about how they do it. If it’s not something they really need to do, don’t make a fuss if they don’t do it. 3. If they get better, congrats, this is the nice bit of being a manager. 4. If they laugh and tell you to gently caress off, or agree and then don’t do it, or are really trying but just can’t handle it, you need to make the judgement call. This is the less nice bit of being a manager. IMO this is composed of two parts: (1) Is this person in a job they are good at; and (2) if they’re not, how hosed are they going to be if I sack them? A decent person doesn’t sack someone who will be turbofucked, ever, but also doesn’t keep someone who is miserably doing a job badly doing that same job. If they are really in the wrong job, the way I handled this in the past has been: - Plan A move them to a different job in the same company. As their manager, find something they might be able to do well and feel proud about, and make the connections needed so their new boss welcomes them in. Of 5 situations like this I handled in the past 3 years, 3 got fixed this way. - Plan B help them find another job outside or at least don’t stand in their way. The other 2 got fixed this way. Again it may rely to some extent on you making connections and getting people outside the company to trust you so that if you recommend someone that has credibility. - Plan C, and this is very much a last resort if they have some thing about them that means they can’t do anything at your place (severe depression, sociopath who doesn’t GAF, whatever) negotiate for them to quit by offering a couple of month’s work as a contractor if they want to do it. I didn’t do this in the last few years but I have done it once, and the couple of months’ work were enough for them to get settled in their next thing on that occasion. It might not be but at that point I think you’ve done your best. 5. Be extremely direct with people who work for you that being sacked is a thing that can happen but it won’t be done in a stupid or arbitrary way and if it does happen you will do what you can to mitigate. Generally speaking the #1 situation you want to avoid as a manager is making someone think you’re their friend, have them make decisions based on that, and then tell them actually you’re their boss. Most successful managers do this by not being friends. I managed this by being super frank with the people reporting to me that I would sack them if I thought it was the right thing to do. To date after 10ish years being a manager I have never had to deprive anyone of an income so IMO it’s working.
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UK Manager Thread: Your Lunch Break Is Over
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Extremely managerial in that it at no point entertains the possibility that they might be better at ther jobs than you are and that you Having Decided that Something Must Change means that it Must Change.
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kecske posted:remember when they said "we're now on an easily understandable scale of 1 - 5" and then immediately pegged us all at 3.5. Those were the salad days has anyone mentioned that scale at all since june? i miss the covid nandos scale. bring back the covid nandos scale. when the covid nandos scale isn't on screen, everyone should be asking, "where's the covid nandos scale?"
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OwlFancier posted:Extremely managerial in that it at no point entertains the possibility that they might be better at ther jobs than you are and that you Having Decided that Something Must Change means that it Must Change. CB’s specific complaint was that there were two people working for him who didn’t pull weight and it was upsetting him. His view may or may not be correct: we here don’t know. It’s also not a capitalism/communism thing, it’s a managerial hierarchy (which exists in any system where more experienced people manage less experienced ones) thing. It isn’t impossible for someone who’s been doing something for 3 weeks to be better at doing it than someone who’s been doing it for 3 years but that’s all a little bit too Silicon Valley for me; usually doing something more makes a person better at it and more qualified to judge whether their colleagues are good at it.
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What managers like to call "not pulling weight" is what I like to call "optimizing my time such that I achieve the most efficient allocation of my personal resources to achieve the outcome required for continued remuneration". And what they call "managing" I find is more accurately described as "sticking their two pennorth in where it isn't needed or wanted to justify their job title" Much better if they stick to the paperwork and let the rest of us get on with doing as little as possible. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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If the work is getting done let them have fun. AMAB vvv a manager messing with his employees is punching down, not up.
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I think you're all reading too much into a dude loving with people for a laugh that causes no harm.
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OwlFancier posted:What managers like to call "not pulling weight" is what I like to call "optimizing my time such that I achieve the most efficient allocation of my personal resources to achieve the outcome required for continued remuneration". That is an entirely rational response to your average office job but all told I would prefer that the people who manage nuclear safety, use metal tools to cut and close up other people’s internal organs and build and design the places we live in are both competent and fairly diligent. And since they have to be, it feels only fair that the rest of us who put up walls and dig holes for pipes and set up internet connections should be. The people who organise these activities are doing a real job, and the people who work out how to do all that at scale while still making money in our current system are also doing a real job but probably shouldn’t get from it 99% of all of the value that exists in the industry. It’s probably a good idea to nationalise all white collar jobs tho. The number would be kept to a minimum and the remuneration would be horrible. After a few years you could start paying more for the ones that turned out to actually matter.
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