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The Titanic posted:Star Citizen is like 4 1/2 light years away. Fixed that for you e: raccoon from this morning for taxxe
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fuckin pingu posted:The Room System has been in the game for quite a while and [INSERT YEARS WORTH OF TECHNICAL DEBT HERE] for the long term, and for people's ability to lose themselves in the universe of Star Citizen for many years to come it is the approach that will have the best results. Meanwhile a Xbox 360 looking train no clips into another train and water appears next to a cup, as a generic spaceman no clips through a grey corridor. As a server strains to accommodate 12 players it disconnects and a .exe silently stops responding. On the other side of the world a man is confused as he tries to set a course to one of the 99% of star systems that do not exist. Like the unused sectors on his hard drive where content was once promised to be, space is empty, as his his wallet. A lone commando pilots his chariot, weightless and without any discernible mass through the majestic cityscape of the solitary planet. He sighs as he nears a no fly zone, in this PC game that does not hold your hand or funnel you around like those despicable console games. He sighs. He knows this is freedom. He is liberated and elated to be part of the solution to the problem, the problem that is PC gaming is currently dead. Citizens rejoice, thankful that their leader has bestowed upon them gifts of unparalleled simulation fidelity, and all this... Soon.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 22:33 |
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800peepee51doodoo posted:
Yeah I’m very much a layman when it comes to space stuff (I went to school for international politics), and I honestly can’t argue the science itself. Matt O’Dowd (the guy in the video) is an astrophysicist and very much in the Neil Degrasse Tyson camp of gee wiz futurists. But, it still seems to me that it’s possible in the coming centuries, and at least something we should be striving towards.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 22:35 |
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Thing is with space science, you can make up any old poo poo. Like, realistically who's gonna prove me wrong? Space is made up of gently caress all, it's just black and stars are bits of polystyrene packing that's left over, floating around from when God moved in. The moon is a bin lid, black holes are just some bullshit someone made up to sell books and heaven is a half pipe.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 22:40 |
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The Titanic posted:Alpha Centauri is like 4 1/2 light years away. A cool way to visualise the distances involved in our solar system, let alone space https://www.peoriariverfrontmuseum.org/dome-planetarium/community-solar-system Another one but I agree with you here, man this is depressing https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html I prefer hopping around the galaxy in Elite Dangerous to be honest than actually contemplating how big space is.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 22:51 |
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It won't happen in our lifetime and this generation may be long gone at that point, but I am hopeful people will figure things out, first among themselves and then about salvaging our civilization and dealing with whatever the ELE may be (if it's before the Sun expanding). Sci-fi stuff like Arc ships, fast travel, human like AI and advanced robotics, storing and restoring memories, personality transfer to an artificial body and a whole other load of crap, may not *all* be achievable but a subset might be in a few centuries time ahead. I mean, one can hope, and since I won't get to see it one way or another, it's best to stay optimistic about stuff that I cannot control. However, if in two years from now SQ57 is not released, I'll be really pissed.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 22:55 |
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Even if we had the technology to travel (close to) light speed, it would take about a year of continually accelerating at a rate that wouldn't kill us (~3g's) to get going that fast. Then we'd have to spend another year decelerating. Alpha Centauri would be closer to a 6 or 7 year trip.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 22:56 |
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Nicholas posted:Even if we had the technology to travel (close to) light speed, it would take about a year of continually accelerating at a rate that wouldn't kill us (~3g's) to get going that fast. Then we'd have to spend another year decelerating. Alpha Centauri would be closer to a 6 or 7 year trip. And then there's this to consider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_spaceflight_on_the_human_body I don't think we're going anywhere.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:01 |
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Thing is when you got there it'd just be a load of rocks and poo poo, it's like the ultimate sad trombone adventure or something.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:01 |
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peter gabriel posted:heaven is a half pipe.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:01 |
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Who's to say we will travel the universe in our meatbag bodies? Realistically we'll probably have a convergence with AI/vitualization of our organic bodies prior to any expansion into the universe. At that point would relative speeds matter?
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:03 |
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TheAgent posted:another thps1+2 lover i see No man, something entirely much worse
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:04 |
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I can walk down the street and go to a kick rear end pub, play some games and poo poo, have a laugh with people. Seems to me the whole travel at the speed of light crew haven't thought it through, like, yo, where you going precisely? Will it be as good as this pub? Probably not.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:05 |
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monkeytek posted:Who's to say we will travel the universe in our meatbag bodies? Tony Z to the rescue!
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:06 |
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Jonny Shiloh posted:Tony Z to the rescue! By the time that fucker sorts it out you could've walked there
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:08 |
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Nicholas posted:Even if we had the technology to travel (close to) light speed, it would take about a year of continually accelerating at a rate that wouldn't kill us (~3g's) to get going that fast. Then we'd have to spend another year decelerating. Alpha Centauri would be closer to a 6 or 7 year trip. like lol who gives a poo poo if it takes me 50,000 years to get somewhere in my cool robobrain spaceship bod playing fuckin holideck games n poo poo sucking down light to power my quantumwhatsit CPUs or RAMdick or whatever suck it meat havers
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:10 |
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Someone said that we probably won't move to Mars because if we have the tech to do that we'll probably have the tech to fix Earth a lot easier, and I was like 'yeah that makes sense' and ever since that I've had a real downer on technological progress. If Elite Dangerous has taught me anything it's that even when faced with the majesty of a distant sun you can still be bored fuckin rigid
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:14 |
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peter gabriel posted:By the time that fucker sorts it out you could've walked there Tony used to live in a box, now he writes AI But his bartenders suck, they suck, so much But he has these great ideas, wanna see what's next He writes on his board dreams.txt Woah, we're halfway there Woah-oh, standin' on a chair Take my hand, and we'll pose in a T Woah-oh, thanks to Tony Z
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:16 |
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Woooooah we're half way theeeerrre WOOOO-OAH! THAT'S A SEXY BEEEEAAARRRR!
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:19 |
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Nicholas posted:Even if we had the technology to travel (close to) light speed, it would take about a year of continually accelerating at a rate that wouldn't kill us (~3g's) to get going that fast. Then we'd have to spend another year decelerating. Alpha Centauri would be closer to a 6 or 7 year trip. Even then, its still a 75% chance that Alpha Centauri has a habitable planet. 1 in 4 chance we get there and there is gently caress all. Just like an updated CIG roadmap.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:21 |
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After years travelling at light speed a soft bong sound occurs. 'You have arrived at your destination' a calming voice announces over the ships tannoy system. Cheers erupt as the excited crew wait for the titanium shutters to slowly reveal the full spectacle of a distant corner of space never before witnessed by human eyes. The shutters elevate, teasingly inch by inch until finally with a satisfying 'clunk' they lock into place, fully open. The captain, gingerly walks towards the window, raises his hand up to shield his eyes slightly and stares out into the void. After a minute he turns around and faces the crew... "Gentlemen... it looks just like space did from Earth, like literally the same" The shutters slowly begin to close as the ship turns around.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:28 |
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TheAgent posted:uuuhhh why don't you simply just open a hole into another dimension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZeEC70Hw38&t=19s
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The Titanic posted:Humanity.txt Interestingly enough there have been at least stop-gap solutions for #6. It's been proposed that when the Sun starts expanding and pushing the habitable zone outside of Earths orbit a planetoid could be set up in a specific orbit which would cross both Earth's orbit and Jupiter's orbit. It'd then be possible to "sap" orbital momentum from Jupiter and "give" it to Earth, slowly pushing our orbit outwards.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:39 |
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colonelwest posted:@croberts68 Thank you so much for such an in-depth reply on something the community is so looking forward to, but also even more for making an appearance to the community! Your visibility is sorely missed by the older backer community far more than you know. There is a huge disconnect between the massive increase in income from new backers and the broad anger and discontent from long term backers (not me, I fight this hard every day as one of the last White Knights) and it is 100% around the change in how CIG is communicating and involved with the community. Thank you Chris, thank you for doing the absolute bare minimum and staying on vacation while still collecting millions from this scam. Eternally grateful, An easy mark
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:40 |
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Ffycchi posted:I have cancer. The fact that I'm betting that I'll die before this game comes out says a lot...and that's with a prognosis of 5 years. I hope you're wrong.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 23:53 |
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Imagine throwing money to the tune of a couple hundred million dollars at Chris Roberts for nearly a decade and counting of delays and refactors to get him to produce the perfectly balanced resource management game in real time of your dreams and oh look! Clouds and vacuums!* *from the mouth of Chris Roberts himself cwtch fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Sep 12, 2020 |
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Deeturbomber posted:
What, throwing in the towel already?
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The Titanic posted:You're looking at 100's or 1000's of years of travel time. Do you want space Mormons and the Nauvoo? Because that's how you get space Mormons and the Nauvoo.
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The Titanic posted:Humanity.txt Once Elon frees us from this rock we'll be able to finally send out trash to some rocky planetoid in the outer solar system (pluto ain't that popular nowadays, nobody will mind) so that, a billion years into the future, aliens will be able to land into a half km crust of soiled diapers, plastic bags, and vhs copies of WC:the movie (which will be produced by the billions after SC becomes the biggest game ever) . Then, they'll marvel at our accomplishments and probably build a few shrines to Freddie Prince Jr.
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peter gabriel posted:Thing is with space science, you can make up any old poo poo.
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 00:33 |
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Colostomy Bag posted:What, throwing in the towel already? YEP I might return to give it more of a go later on, but the performance is near-unplayable and I don't know that I can make the ship controls work in a way I understand. Past the novelty of the few things I like, the performance is just bad enough that it saps the enjoyment out of anything else. It reminds me of Osiris: New Dawn, except I can turn Osiris down to potato graphics to make it run better.
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peter gabriel posted:Meanwhile a Xbox 360 looking train no clips into another train and water appears next to a cup, as a generic spaceman no clips through a grey corridor. Orange Carlisle posted:Thank you Chris, thank you for doing the absolute bear Really missed an opportunity there!
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The Titanic posted:This is why I sank.
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TheAgent posted:we'll put our minds into robot bodies waaaaaay before any of that, or just create synthetic life that will be the continuation/replacement of human life (and probably most life on the planet) I like the twist of your circuitry.
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 01:45 |
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You know, I'm okay with the faith being restored. It will make whatever ELE Bootcha is going to drop with the next Sunk Cost Galaxy all the more entertaining, as it was with the last chapter. Plus, watching more money get thrown into this dumpster fire means it remains the gift that just keeps giving!
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 02:22 |
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so i gave this turd rocket a try during the free fly. i've followed this thread for some time, so here's a bulleted list of FUDster stuff from my first time with the game: - Literally the first time I spawned and mashed enough buttons to get out of my wank pod, I fell through the floor and watched my body temperature go down as I fell through the sky and went splat. - thanks to SA I know that elevators are the most important game system in SC. i was able to successfully navigate the elevator to and run to the tube - a train showed up just as my train was leaving, jankily clipping through it fortunately the train i boarded carried me away through a rather long tunnel ride that i can only imagine is neat about 1 time. - i called up some light fighter that undoubtedly punches above its weight and sheared something off trying to hover in the hangar bay. I sent many "o7 fellow citizens!!" messages and they told me the arcane button presses needed to open the hangar door. - the server i was on had about 42 people on it, several of them bragging how much money they spent on the game. $2k here, $10k there, one guy claimed someone in his group dropped $20k and now they have unreleased jpegs to play with. IDK - i was sorely disappointed by the lack of t-posed NPCs. i was promised t-posed NPCs. - i flew to some space station and landed on a pad. i ran around looking for a bar and didn't find one, not did i find any t-posed NPCs. disappointed. - i started to fly to some random planet (i dont know or care about any of the location names in this strange hangar simulator) to find a bar to drink with FELLOW CITIZENS but the destination was some 48,000,000km away and I got bored of waiting for quantum drive for 20 mintues. - i suicided and woke up in the wank pod on the station I last visited and at that point was so bored that I uninstalled the game. worth what i paid for it.
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 02:33 |
Playing Star Citizen is great if you need to get other poo poo done cause after about 30 minutes you're hyper aware at how much it wants to waste your time doing pointless tedious crap that you feel compelled to go do anything else just to make up for the time you wasted.
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 03:10 |
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Somebody is selling preorder for gold plated PS5 : https://www.trulyexquisite.co.uk/24k-gold-ps5 Thing is I checked price, my brain couldn't helped and compared it to Pledge store prices. So it is is actually cheaper then Pledging for Star citizen JPGs. Even if I bought all three, it is still cheaper then legatus.jpg
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 03:17 |
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Star Citizer: “Could be it won’t work for another 10 years... but we pay them to keep trying.” Well in War Thunder you make a pretty looking 3d model from the outside and the interior is just collision boxes. In SC we are talking about having a highly detailed interior that any player can not only walk through but interact with. Also the interior needs to change visually when a fire spreads and causes damages on the object and textures. It's as if you could go inside the tank in war thunder, have everything 100% modeled in there and you could open up the damaged parts and see what damage the bullet has done to the interior mechanics of that device. If wires have been affected by the flames etc... it's a completely different scale (compared to SC by the complexity form a workload perspective) Of course in SC you won't find anything as detailed as I just described in the WT scenario but consider capital ships, your 3d model is just enormous and allowing to go through each corridor with the fidelity and the way they are aiming to implement it, it comes close in terms of workload. Don't get me wrong I'm not happy with how things are right now either, but his message was quite important to know if we can expect detailed systems and knowingly from DCS can make for very interesting gameplay or if we are facing boring brain off arcade casual gameplay the way it is right now. And he answered that and yes unfortunately it will take a poo poo ton of time, but it's the way to go if you want to end up with enjoyable gameplay, that is not scripted, or just brain off gameplay. There is no sense in continuing the current physical damage model, if it gets thrown out the window anyway. They learned of what they needed to learn from the current implementation, but otherwise, it's just a place holder. Server meshing and iCache etc have been answered in a video recently, it's a very complex project, this stuff is coming but it needs to work. Also the huge issue will be latencies, the big questions still is, if it will ever work anything close to what the vision is. Hundreds of players in space, with systemic simulated depth experienced from first person perspective with COD type latency times so we can properly shoot each other with our hand guns and rifles. Could be it won't work for the next 10 years as there is just too many problems appearing constantly and no way to make it happen. But we pay them to keep trying because they are just as nuts as every supporter is.But there are certainly things not going well atm especially the communication of development statuses. I've been happier personally with the past 2 months, and this message was another step in the right direction. Cools people off and we get a sense for what they are going for. colonelwest fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Sep 12, 2020 |
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Yeah that's the good stuff.
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