Whiskey A Go Go! posted:

Is there something going on with Cooler Master's QC nowadays? My friend has a cooler master PSU that died on her and she is struggling to get a rma from Cooler Master. Cooler Master only take tickets and they haven't answered her in over a month. I don't want my personal bias to get in the way since I never had any luck with Cooler Master cases, fans and coolers.

I am half tempted to tell her to just get a Corsair or EVGA PSU because she just went through the same thing a few weeks ago with Thermaltake (ToughRAM) and I already know their products are pretty trash.

Gearman posted:

Thanks! I am planning to go all black/white. Here's a progress shot with the motherboard, AIO, and top case fan in. I still need to put in two fans on the bottom, the PSU, the extra SSD, and run all the cables. At this rate, I'll probably be able to order a 3080 and have it arrive before I'm done.

Whiskey A Go Go! posted:

Is there something going on with Cooler Master's QC nowadays? My friend has a cooler master PSU that died on her and she is struggling to get a rma from Cooler Master. Cooler Master only take tickets and they haven't answered her in over a month. I don't want my personal bias to get in the way since I never had any luck with Cooler Master cases, fans and coolers.

I am half tempted to tell her to just get a Corsair or EVGA PSU because she just went through the same thing a few weeks ago with Thermaltake (ToughRAM) and I already know their products are pretty trash.

sean10mm posted:

I would throw Seasonic in there too.

Gearman posted:

Klyith posted:

drat dude.


Ugh that sucks, but has she actually sent the thing back or just waiting on authorization to RMA? If the second, could just try opening a new ticket.

At the moment I bet RMA support is worse across the board than normal, but that means the second tier brands like CM and thermaltake may now be actively lovely rather than just mediocre. Quality of support is one reason to go with a corsair or EVGA though. A lot of the time I don't put huge value on it personally, but I've also been pretty lucky with things not needing warranty RMA. I've only had like 2 things ever that needed warranty service, and one I fixed myself rather than send back.


Are they a pain with RMAs? I've never had a seasonic PSU die inside warranty period yet.

uXs posted:

Since I'm busy returning poo poo, I'm thinking of returning the H500M I got, mostly because the PSU is so awkward to access and I'd like a bit more room to gently caress around with cable management anyway.

Any recommendations for a better case? Good airflow, good cable management, good access to everything including the PSU cables. And I have 3 SSDs now plus an HDD so there has to be room for those + extra. And some USB ports on the front. At least 4 (plus 1 USB-C), or more.

Also room for a 3080 when they come out.

sean10mm posted:

No I meant Seasonic was a good alternative.

e:

Meshify S2?

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/meshify/meshify-s2/black/

Plus I mean you can stick SATA SSDs literally anywhere you want in any case anyway.

uXs posted:

Haha, I read your 'Seasonic' post as the opposite too and was getting nervous already.

Meshify S2 only has 2 normal USB ports? I literally have 3 of the ports in my current case occupied already so unless there's an easy way to increase that number it's a no go.

(edit: I guess you're right about the SATA ports. Plus it's all about M2 slots now anyway I guess.)

uXs posted:

Since I'm busy returning poo poo, I'm thinking of returning the H500M I got, mostly because the PSU is so awkward to access and I'd like a bit more room to gently caress around with cable management anyway.

Any recommendations for a better case? Good airflow, good cable management, good access to everything including the PSU cables. And I have 3 SSDs now plus an HDD so there has to be room for those + extra. And some USB ports on the front. At least 4 (plus 1 USB-C), or more.

Also room for a 3080 when they come out.

Gearman posted:

the_enduser posted:

I am the orange SATA port.

Kingnothing posted:

Did you ever look into the gigabyte issue with the bios renaming that I mentioned earlier? That issue was super similar to yours.

I agree with returning everything you can still that’s giving you issues. Just start as fresh as you can at this point, it’ll make life easier than narrowing down if you can wait for the exchange parts, or give you options you wish you had.

Kingnothing posted:

For a case, I think you need to consider more specifics.

Do you was a mid tower, full, or something weird? With those drives I assume not matx but there are a few that can fit that.

Do you care at all about noise or do you just want pure airflow? If you want any noise elimination at all you’re gonna compromise at least a little on airflow.

I’m a huge fan of fractals stuff, for all the reasons you listed. Specifically their meshify line has great airflow.

If airflow is your only concern, I’d start here

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3604-best-gaming-pc-cases-for-airflow-in-2020-right-now

These guys do a genuinely insane level of temp and airflow testing, and that link has not just cases for all budget types, but choices within those budget lines.

That being said. The define 7 from fractal is neat in that you can open the front panel and remote the front filter to basically make it an airflow case, then swing the door closed when you don’t need airflow. It’s part of the reason I ended up picking it.

uXs posted:

Not really? I flashed the bios this morning (with version 22, I assume the 30a was a beta version so I'm avoiding that now), been working fine the entire day now. I'll do a memtest with the memory at XMP speeds tonight. I'll check your previous post after I make this one.

edit: checked it, doesn't seem relevant. I haven't really had issues flashing the bios or making the bios version stick. I could still be wrong obviously but my instinct screams at me that this is not it.

As for returning, yeah. I think I can still return the case today, that's why I'm asking for options now.

For the other stuff, I still have some time. PSU, CPU, and RAM I have until the 27th, the 1st motherboard has been returned and accepted today, and for the 2nd motherboard I now have until the 22nd.

Problem is, what is it that is giving me issues? Should I just return everything? Just some things? And get what instead?


I think a mid tower is enough. H500M is mid, right? I like the size, sure.

I want enough airflow that the fans don't have to go crazy. Closing it during normal operation and opening it for games sounds reasonable. Not sure if I agree with removing the air filter but I presume that's optional?

Kingnothing posted:

Yeah removing the filter is optional and will give a bunch of extra airflow if you feel like you need it.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3558-fractal-define-7-case-review

They’re also on sale at Newegg right now (windowless) @$139.99 + 12.99 shipping.

uXs posted:

Can't buy on Newegg, they seem to only ship to Turkey and the UK in Europe.

I've had another recommendation for a define, but the R6. Any reason you recommend the 7?

Gearman posted:

I'm at peace with it. A little spot of color is fine with me,and people know I'm not totally cheating with color adjustment in the photos

Alchenar posted:

Has anyone here matched a Fractal r7 with an Arctic freezer 2 and if so how did you decide to mount it in the case? I'm leaving heavily in that direction right now.

gohuskies posted:

I may have bought two parts that don't go together but I want to doublecheck to make sure I'm not missing anything. I have an MSI B365M Pro VDH motherboard and this MS30 SSD. The SSD uses the SATA type of M.2 port and it sure looks to me like the motherboard only has the PCIe type of M.2. But on the motherboard's website under "detail", it says that the motherboard supports SATA in the M.2 port with the caveat that the SATA 1 connector won't be available with a SATA SSD in the M.2. I don't understand and I want to ask somebody for advice before I try jamming things into things or returning stuff and buying replacements. Is anyone familiar with this kind of situation?

quote:

1 x M.2 slot (Key M)
Supports up to PCIe 3.0 x4 and SATA 6Gb/s
Supports 2242/ 2260 /2280/ 22110 storage devices
Intel® Optane™ Memory Ready2

The SATA1 connector will be unavailable when an M.2 SATA SSD module has been installed in the M.2_1 slot.

Alchenar posted:

Has anyone here matched a Fractal r7 with an Arctic freezer 2 and if so how did you decide to mount it in the case? I'm leaving heavily in that direction right now.

gohuskies posted:

I may have bought two parts that don't go together but I want to doublecheck to make sure I'm not missing anything. I have an MSI B365M Pro VDH motherboard and this MS30 SSD. The SSD uses the SATA type of M.2 port and it sure looks to me like the motherboard only has the PCIe type of M.2. But on the motherboard's website under "detail", it says that the motherboard supports SATA in the M.2 port with the caveat that the SATA 1 connector won't be available with a SATA SSD in the M.2. I don't understand and I want to ask somebody for advice before I try jamming things into things or returning stuff and buying replacements. Is anyone familiar with this kind of situation?

Edit: Never mind, it works. Just had to try it and it's fine.

totalnewbie posted:

jfc I love microcenter.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($386.99 @ Newegg) $500 @ Microcenter w/ motherboard
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg) out of stock @ Microcenter
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($187.99 @ Amazon) saves 75 bucks bundled with the CPU :O
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($149.99 @ B&H) out of stock online, 160 @ Microcenter
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Newegg)[/s] 180@ Microcenter (maybe $5 discount!)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case $90 @ Microcenter
Power Supply: Corsair 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($239.99 @ Corsair)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.88 @ Other World Computing) 150 @ M$. gently caress it, I'm not trusting online resellers. someone selling a key for lol
Total: $1429.94 $1355

Can I just also say how much I love Lian Li products? They've got some turds but when they make a gem, it is a GEM. I can't wait to buy it and check it out.

Note the lack of GPU - will see if I can get my hands on an 3080. If not, I'll throw in my current 1070 and let it ride until I can grab a 3080. So that'll put it right at 2k.
Bringing over from current computer: 1 TB 970 EVO (...for CoD ), spinning HDD, monitor, mouse, keyboard, monitor, blah blah blah.

Possible savings:
-130 from 3800XT -> 3600
-35 use stock cooler
-50 cheaper motherboard, just ballpark-ing
-50 cheaper ram, just ballpark-ing
-30 cheaper case, not going to get much cheaper than that.
-100 cheaper PSU, ballpark-ing but don't gently caress around with PSUs. Also, this seems to be the most difficult component to source at the moment. Out of stock almost everywhere!
-90 smaller SSD but honestly, some games are getting huge these days so 1 TB almost seems mandatory.
(-150 Linux )

So budget/non-COVID price: 870 + 700 which I just looked at for shits and giggles to see how much money I'm wasting. Turns out it's almost enough for a 3070!

Any comments from anyone?

totalnewbie posted:

I mean, look at these nerds: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eL0893Ramlwk6E3s3uSvH1_juom7SMG5SCNzP2Uov8w/edit#gid=1529225916
(That is definitely my poo poo.)

Looking at the reviews, I think I've got these realistic choices:

(I threw out RM line because I am still salty about Taiwanese capacitors)
RMx 850W. Pro: 145, Con: not FDB fan, Gold rating, slightly worse performance (alt: 750W 135, 1000W 205)
HX 1000W. Pro: FDB fan, plat rating, slightly better performance. Con: 205 bucks (alt: 750W 155, 850W 185)

Note that the HX is already 40 bucks cheaper than what I linked because I didn't realize the HXi has some extra bits for monitoring and tbh I do not need to monitor my PSU performance.

Prices are jacked right now, though, and it's hard to find because a lot of places are out of stock. So I might have to just have to go with what I can find that's at a reasonable price. But thanks for the reality check.

totalnewbie posted:

Prices are jacked right now, though, and it's hard to find because a lot of places are out of stock. So I might have to just have to go with what I can find that's at a reasonable price. But thanks for the reality check and prompting me to look into it a little more. ... I should probably look at not-Corsair. /sigh

sean10mm posted:

Why liquid?

("Because it's rad" is an acceptable response)

literally this big posted:

I'm looking for a case to start my build and I've heard good things about the Meshify C. What else should I be considering for a id-size case? I like it's mesh design, it's got good circulation which is important for me.

Kingnothing posted:

This was 4 days ago


https://reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/iom6bu/restock_seasonic_px850_platinum_psu_amazon_15540/

Follow r/buildapcsales and set an IFTTT alert or something for PSU. Something reasonably priced from a decent company will pop up in the next few days and you’ll be able to grab it if you act quick enough. Unless you’re dead set on Corsair.

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-750f14hg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00006

This is in stock now. Not platinum but Superflower is an OEM that’s highly rated, this has a great price, and the LTT nerds like this PSU. With your build I don’t necessarily see why you’d need to go absolutely crazy with the PSU.

Edit: 850w is $10 more

Neo_Crimson posted:

The Meshify C is pretty much the go-to suggestion for cases around here, just add 2 1400mm fans in front for good circulation. I will say it's only flaws are that its cable management isn't that great, and the front panel is a bitch to get off.

Also, an underrated feature is that Fractal Design sells colored front panels that you can mix and match for some cool color combos without relying on RGB LEDs.

totalnewbie posted:

I closed my eyes and bought it.

Because at the end of the day, gently caress it, it'll be fine. Thanks very much!

uXs posted:

Not really? I flashed the bios this morning (with version 22, I assume the 30a was a beta version so I'm avoiding that now), been working fine the entire day now. I'll do a memtest with the memory at XMP speeds tonight. I'll check your previous post after I make this one.

edit: checked it, doesn't seem relevant. I haven't really had issues flashing the bios or making the bios version stick. I could still be wrong obviously but my instinct screams at me that this is not it.

As for returning, yeah. I think I can still return the case today, that's why I'm asking for options now.

For the other stuff, I still have some time. PSU, CPU, and RAM I have until the 27th, the 1st motherboard has been returned and accepted today, and for the 2nd motherboard I now have until the 22nd.

Problem is, what is it that is giving me issues? Should I just return everything? Just some things? And get what instead?