Stryder posted:

The banquet scene is one of the few things I liked about the SYFY version, even though they added Irulan. Leaving it out of the Lynch version might've simplified things, but also did leave out that statecraft and especially downplayed the importance of the Duke trying to get the smugglers on his side.

Incidentally, it looks like there's a shot in the trailer of Leto either discovering the lead smuggler or Shadout Mapes.

exmachina posted:

I'm pretty sure it's mapes. The smuggler was already dead, the shadout got last words.

exmarx posted:

Stryder posted:

HARKONNEN!? gently caress THAT poo poo. PABST OF IBAD.

exmarx posted:

Riot Bimbo posted:

It's me, the absolute dune freak. if you casually mention dune in my presence i'll be talking about obscure dune lore within minutes. it's the one place i can't control myself. i just blurt out dunefacts 24/7

Riot Bimbo posted:

It's me, the absolute dune freak. if you casually mention dune in my presence i'll be talking about obscure dune lore within minutes. it's the one place i can't control myself. i just blurt out dunefacts 24/7

exmarx posted:

Eau de MacGowan posted:

what colour is the sky on arrakis

Colonel Cancer posted:

The color of television tuned to a dead channel, next

Galewolf posted:

Breaking away from the "Where do you gently caress a level 3 guild navigator?" chat, I wanted to share an interesting discussion about Dune in Turkish sci-fi groups.

I have never read Dune in English, the first translation was made around the late '90s by two exceptional translators (I think one of them is also a literature professor) which is beyond perfect as translations go because they made a great deal of research in Arabic and Turkish language to bring out the underlying themes Herbert had.

It's hard to describe but one example is krys knife -> hancer-i figan translation. Hancer is Arabic for dagger and figan is, a Farsi word that can be roughly translated as "a wail caused by pain". Both words are used in Turkish and that translation really elevated the symbolism behind it.

So, anyway, the translators were having a facebook discussion about that og translation and possibly Herbert was really big into how a text sounds when it's read out loud so suggested his students to read their writings loudly. The translators did that with the English translation and noticed that Frank used words including the letter "s" more frequently in the desert section of the book so when read out loud it would simulate the sounds of moving sands in the desert, a continuous "sssssssss" sound. So the translators chose the Turkish translation to have as much as appropriate words that also use s to keep the theme.

There is no direct quote from Herbet about this (I think he mentions how your mental sound is important during reading somewhere) and it is entirely based on the assumptions of the translators but I thought it sounded neat and wanted to share with my goonbros.

Galewolf posted:

Breaking away from the "Where do you gently caress a level 3 guild navigator?" chat, I wanted to share an interesting discussion about Dune in Turkish sci-fi groups.

I have never read Dune in English, the first translation was made around the late '90s by two exceptional translators (I think one of them is also a literature professor) which is beyond perfect as translations go because they made a great deal of research in Arabic and Turkish language to bring out the underlying themes Herbert had.

It's hard to describe but one example is krys knife -> hancer-i figan translation. Hancer is Arabic for dagger and figan is, a Farsi word that can be roughly translated as "a wail caused by pain". Both words are used in Turkish and that translation really elevated the symbolism behind it.

So, anyway, the translators were having a facebook discussion about that og translation and possibly Herbert was really big into how a text sounds when it's read out loud so suggested his students to read their writings loudly. The translators did that with the English translation and noticed that Frank used words including the letter "s" more frequently in the desert section of the book so when read out loud it would simulate the sounds of moving sands in the desert, a continuous "sssssssss" sound. So the translators chose the Turkish translation to have as much as appropriate words that also use s to keep the theme.

There is no direct quote from Herbet about this (I think he mentions how your mental sound is important during reading somewhere) and it is entirely based on the assumptions of the translators but I thought it sounded neat and wanted to share with my goonbros.

Eau de MacGowan posted:

what colour is the sky on arrakis

Ror posted:

Salusa Secundus is never confirmed as the Sardaukar factory, is it? It’s just deduced to be such by several different intelligent characters.

I bet it’s really just a party planet.

Ror posted:

Salusa Secundus is never confirmed as the Sardaukar factory, is it? It’s just deduced to be such by several different intelligent characters.

I bet it’s really just a party planet.

FBS posted:

Salusa Secundus... Sigma Sigma... Frat house planet

magic cactus posted:

Turns out the real reason Sardaukar are such fearsome combatants is because they keep getting woken up to fight in the middle of the worst hangover of their lives.

drunkill posted:

Zendaya is cast in this movie


it will not be R rated. They want a legion of teenage girls to go see this for zendaya and timothee. It worked for the opening weekend of Dunkirk, before teenage girls found out it was a war movie and their boy band singer only had a few lines in it

Eau de MacGowan posted:

what colour is the sky on arrakis

SPACE HOMOS posted:

I didn't know who Zendaya was before the trailer. When they showed Chani, I thought what is Phreak from Hackers doing on Arrakis?

SPACE HOMOS posted:

I didn't know who Zendaya was before the trailer. When they showed Chani, I thought what is Phreak from Hackers doing on Arrakis?

Galewolf posted:

Breaking away from the "Where do you gently caress a level 3 guild navigator?" chat, I wanted to share an interesting discussion about Dune in Turkish sci-fi groups.

I have never read Dune in English, the first translation was made around the late '90s by two exceptional translators (I think one of them is also a literature professor) which is beyond perfect as translations go because they made a great deal of research in Arabic and Turkish language to bring out the underlying themes Herbert had.

It's hard to describe but one example is krys knife -> hancer-i figan translation. Hancer is Arabic for dagger and figan is, a Farsi word that can be roughly translated as "a wail caused by pain". Both words are used in Turkish and that translation really elevated the symbolism behind it.

So, anyway, the translators were having a facebook discussion about that og translation and possibly Herbert was really big into how a text sounds when it's read out loud so suggested his students to read their writings loudly. The translators did that with the English translation and noticed that Frank used words including the letter "s" more frequently in the desert section of the book so when read out loud it would simulate the sounds of moving sands in the desert, a continuous "sssssssss" sound. So the translators chose the Turkish translation to have as much as appropriate words that also use s to keep the theme.

There is no direct quote from Herbet about this (I think he mentions how your mental sound is important during reading somewhere) and it is entirely based on the assumptions of the translators but I thought it sounded neat and wanted to share with my goonbros.