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taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


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:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

KakerMix posted:

The only times I wish I had a tach is when on the highway with these things. What RPMs am I turning at 110 kph? :iiam:

This is a great chance opportunity to do some gear ratio math in your head. I've seen it recommended by long distance cyclists as a way to pass the time.

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Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Looks like that van gonna need tires, the cracks are scary looking

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

taqueso posted:

This is a great chance opportunity to do some gear ratio math in your head. I've seen it recommended by long distance cyclists as a way to pass the time.
On at least one example of older stuff without a rev counter, I've seen concentric rings on the speedo to indicate engine speed range in each gear.

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

InitialDave posted:

On at least one example of older stuff without a rev counter, I've seen concentric rings on the speedo to indicate engine speed range in each gear.

My hiace fire truck has a marked ranged from 2-3k I assume they want me to shift at that point but redline is 6-7. 2.8 or Australians call it 2 point late. First gear is useless once you are in third has tons of power

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:



















Another Minidisc headunit hell yes

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.
mustle-bound

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

yet refined

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Automotive Insanity > Let's Import Vehicles From Japan For Fun and Profit - Mustle-Bound Yet Refined

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
Kaker the cruiser looks amazing and is worth whatever you paid for the spare cover. I have a MD unit in the hiace camper had one in my Delica too. Just awesome all around on that truck good buy!!!

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
F I N A L L Y

Took this out


sent it to Japan as a core return for one that looks like this


and had it all put back together, serviced, sealed flushed and charged. $1100 later I've got gloriously decadent AC in the gold Prado.



Pretty expensive, sure, but trying to get this condenser rebuilt here in the USA with sending it back and forth and questions on if it even could be repaired easily were just too much. Found a radiator place in Japan that specifically mentions re-manufacturing this specific condenser but it requires a core return. Tons of shipping costs later, beautifully reman'd condenser. It's done correctly, and that's the way it always should be done.

Sold a gently caress ton of cars lately too but who cares, AC!

Ethics_Gradient
May 5, 2015

Common misconception that; that fun is relaxing. If it is, you're not doing it right.

KakerMix posted:

F I N A L L Y

Took this out


sent it to Japan as a core return for one that looks like this


and had it all put back together, serviced, sealed flushed and charged. $1100 later I've got gloriously decadent AC in the gold Prado.



Pretty expensive, sure, but trying to get this condenser rebuilt here in the USA with sending it back and forth and questions on if it even could be repaired easily were just too much. Found a radiator place in Japan that specifically mentions re-manufacturing this specific condenser but it requires a core return. Tons of shipping costs later, beautifully reman'd condenser. It's done correctly, and that's the way it always should be done.

Sold a gently caress ton of cars lately too but who cares, AC!

Certainly worthwhile - selling a car in Florida in August without working AC would definitely be an uphill battle.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
That's cheaper than many German car parts!

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:










Auction Sheet posted:

5mt, ac, timing belt sticker at 93,707km, aftermarket wheels, door visors, rear wiper, front end repairs, ceiling liner loose, interior dirty, core support/left and right front inside panel slightly bent, wheels scratched, spare tire cover repairs and paint marks, other dents scratches paint waves

Inspection Report posted:

engine starts one shot, idles and revs fine, no vibrations, timing belt sticker at 93,707km, no sludge, coolant ok, oil pan area slightly oily, tires at 50% ok, spare ok, no leaks mold or rust in trunk, undercarriage slight surface rust only, body as is in diagram, windshield chips small, door visors ok, drivers seat worn on door slide, front seats slight stains, dashboard scratches, ceiling liner rear area loose, no burns, ac ok, clutch ok, gears ok, check lamps ok, 4wd ok, lights ok, wipers ok, power steering ok.

1984 Mitsubishi Pajero turbo diesel. Black, short wheelbase, orange stripe, rad interior and great shape. Winch, AC, terrible aftermarket wheels I hate. Fender mirrors which I love, bad spare tire cover. 73,000 miles.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

KakerMix posted:











1984 Mitsubishi Pajero turbo diesel. Black, short wheelbase, orange stripe, rad interior and great shape. Winch, AC, terrible aftermarket wheels I hate. Fender mirrors which I love, bad spare tire cover. 73,000 miles.

If it doesn't say Micro Machines Company, it's not the real thing!

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
Kaker I don’t k ow how you scored a deal on that bc my friend has been after one for MONTHS and they end up selling for big money love this one.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


If you win a car that is sold in the US, like a Porsche, is there any restriction on the age of it like there is for a non-US car?

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

kensei posted:

If you win a car that is sold in the US, like a Porsche, is there any restriction on the age of it like there is for a non-US car?

I don’t think JCD at least would mess with that but I haven’t done it but I only look at 96 and older, but Porsche 911s and NSXs sell for more there than here from what I’ve seen would t be worth the hassle unless some extraordinary situation

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

kensei posted:

If you win a car that is sold in the US, like a Porsche, is there any restriction on the age of it like there is for a non-US car?

It doesn't matter if it's particular year/model is "sold here", what matters most if if the engine is "federalized". After that there are a bunch of other things that matter, but lets take for example like an LC200 land cruiser or Land Rover Discovery 1/2. They all come with gas V8s in the US. You buy a diesel version and the motor won't pass emissions because it was never sold into or tested for this market. Now you're into 25 year rule territory.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


everdave posted:

I don’t think JCD at least would mess with that but I haven’t done it but I only look at 96 and older, but Porsche 911s and NSXs sell for more there than here from what I’ve seen would t be worth the hassle unless some extraordinary situation


Motronic posted:

It doesn't matter if it's particular year/model is "sold here", what matters most if if the engine is "federalized". After that there are a bunch of other things that matter, but lets take for example like an LC200 land cruiser or Land Rover Discovery 1/2. They all come with gas V8s in the US. You buy a diesel version and the motor won't pass emissions because it was never sold into or tested for this market. Now you're into 25 year rule territory.

Thank you both for the info

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

kensei posted:

If you win a car that is sold in the US, like a Porsche, is there any restriction on the age of it like there is for a non-US car?

Yes.
The only exception is for Canada. If you're buying a Canadian model then you can probably just bring it into the USA because Canada and the USA have an agreement for convenience sake.

This whole 25 year rule is because of Mercedes trying to avoid exactly what you are describing. They were the ones that lobbied to implement the 25 year rule so people couldn't import cars from Germany on the cheap while they tried to build their luxury image in the USA. The rules require the car to be federalized. A car sold in Germany never has been, thus is restricted to the 25 year rule. Legally.

IF, however, you were able to get a newer-than 25-year Porsche into the USA, I have no doubts you could register it and insure it like any other USDM-Porsche just because the federals are looking for Skylines and Land Rovers, not Porsches. Assuming you get around the not having a 17 digit VIN. It won't ever be legal here but nobody would probably ever notice. All the people driving around those Pajero Evos here in the US are all rolling around in rolling contraband that won't ever be legal but that doesn't seem to stop them.

EDIT
Read your question wrong, they would be restricted like any other car yes.

KakerMix fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Sep 14, 2020

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
It's not impossible if it's a power train that was sold here and tested but basically you have to modify it to be like a U.S. car and potentially get the manufacturer's cooperation.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
Relevant Jalopnik article: https://jalopnik.com/here-are-the-four-legal-ways-to-import-a-car-to-the-uni-1682067632

The tl;dr version is that if it's under 25 years old and you don't want to go through the full process, you must convince NHTSA that the foreign market vehicle is "substantially similar" to a model that has been federalized. That seems to basically mean "are the differences between this and federalized versions limited to software and/or parts that could be changed out by a garage mechanic".

This can be very easy, for something like a Canadian-market vehicle where there was an effectively identical model sold here where the manufacturer will generally happily make a statement to that effect. If you don't have that manufacturer cooperation however, it becomes significantly more complicated. Not impossible as shown by the example linked from the article, but you will in all likelihood have to counter the OEM arguing against you.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat
If it's less than 25 years old and the engine isn't US spec, the EPA can and will gently caress you on this.

Gangringo
Jul 22, 2007

In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one sat.

He chose the path of perpetual contentment.

Just how much of a bear would it be to buy a Mercedes A35 hatchback in Canada and bring it to California? How much extra in taxes would I be paying just to get that sweet, sweet hatch?

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

Gangringo posted:

Just how much of a bear would it be to buy a Mercedes A35 hatchback in Canada and bring it to California? How much extra in taxes would I be paying just to get that sweet, sweet hatch?

EDIT: It would probably not work and if you somehow did it would cost a fortune and you would probably have to get the magic CARB guy to wave his hand over it and pay him 5-10k. Anywhere else it would probably be much easier. Good luck sincerely if you try, I had not seen the A35 hatch it is a great looking car

everdave fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Sep 14, 2020

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Gangringo posted:

Just how much of a bear would it be to buy a Mercedes A35 hatchback in Canada and bring it to California? How much extra in taxes would I be paying just to get that sweet, sweet hatch?

There was that one car that was only sold in Puerto Rico, and also Canada? Anyone remember what that was? It wasn't anything special but it was a kind of similar circumstance and strangeness in that it was totally US-legal but just wasn't sold properly here save Puerto Rico.
Because of the 'if its legal in Canada then its legal in the USA' I don't know about this A35 hatchback business. We are getting the A35 here, just not the hatchback, so I'm unsure about its legality. I'd imagine, following that Puerto Rico legal car that I can't think the name of, its probably completely legal and crash tested and EPA verified. Just, you know, Canadian.
California is a special case though because of CARB and if getting one of these new hatchbacks legally requires some strangeness then I'd expect California to break that chain and be a royal pita.




Look man this doesn't help when you waltz in the thread and just go off about yourself and don't actually try to answer people's questions. I ask that you please stop doing it.

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

KakerMix posted:


Look man this doesn't help when you waltz in the thread and just go off about yourself and don't actually try to answer people's questions. I ask that you please stop doing it.

I was relating an anecdote to say that No I would expect you can not register the car and just pay extra taxes

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
Mazda 2 is sold in Puerto Rico.

I don't know that everything sold in Canada is legal here. Can I get a Nissan Micra or Qashqai?

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
I'm pretty much 100% sure that's not true, there aren't any special exemptions for Canadian imports. The same rules apply, it's just significantly more likely that a Canadian market vehicle is either already compliant or close enough that the OEM will agree to give you the paperwork to confirm it is "substantially similar" to a US market version.

If you want something that wasn't sold here it's going to be the same options no matter where it came from.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
I think you could do the A35 though IF you get Mercedes to say the hatch and sedan crash test the same. Then you'd have to make it say "brake" on the warning light. I am pissed we don't get the hatch :v: Sitting in the sedan in the showroom it isn't too bad though and rear seat room is surprisingly ok.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

wolrah posted:

I'm pretty much 100% sure that's not true, there aren't any special exemptions for Canadian imports. The same rules apply, it's just significantly more likely that a Canadian market vehicle is either already compliant or close enough that the OEM will agree to give you the paperwork to confirm it is "substantially similar" to a US market version.

If you want something that wasn't sold here it's going to be the same options no matter where it came from.

Yeah you're right.

Ultimately if you want something someone elsewhere is going to do their damnedest to prevent you from having it.
Like Mercedes.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


everdave posted:

EDIT: It would probably not work and if you somehow did it would cost a fortune and you would probably have to get the magic CARB guy to wave his hand over it and pay him 5-10k. Anywhere else it would probably be much easier. Good luck sincerely if you try, I had not seen the A35 hatch it is a great looking car

Yeah, I honestly wouldn't try to bring any car from anywhere that isn't California into California, much less from another country. CARB is a special kind of obtuse and uptight.

e: pretty much beaten all the way down the street.

Charles posted:

Mazda 2 is sold in Puerto Rico.

I don't know that everything sold in Canada is legal here. Can I get a Nissan Micra or Qashqai?

The Mazda 2 was sold here in the continental States some years ago, but I assume that you're talking about the current generation.

edit again: that's a nice looking Pajero, there, Kaker. Wheels are OK - would probably look a lot better cleaned up and refinished.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
Yes you can buy a new Mazda 2 in Puerto Rico and it's legal anywhere in the United States.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Darchangel posted:

Yeah, I honestly wouldn't try to bring any car from anywhere that isn't California into California, much less from another country. CARB is a special kind of obtuse and uptight.
I agree with this completely, having formerly interned at a CARB referee and lived my entire life in CA.

And I'd like to pointedly reject the idea that you can somehow pay taxes to get around it. everdave, as Darchangel said, CARB is a special kind of strict, you should really refrain from offering advice on it unless you have specifically worked with it in a way that's never come out in AI.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
WELP

Just closed our sale on our soft-top Land Cruiser.

In the past two weeks we've sold the Rasheen, Corolla II, Rugger, soft-top Land Cruiser and our Pajero Mini. Busiest week ever :toot:

everdave
Nov 14, 2005
Sounds like a great run Kaker hope things continue to do well for you

everdave fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Sep 15, 2020

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


KakerMix posted:

WELP

Just closed our sale on our soft-top Land Cruiser.

In the past two weeks we've sold the Rasheen, Corolla II, Rugger, soft-top Land Cruiser and our Pajero Mini. Busiest week ever :toot:

I guess folks are bored and shopping during their enforced solitude. Good for business, certainly yours!

Ethics_Gradient
May 5, 2015

Common misconception that; that fun is relaxing. If it is, you're not doing it right.

Charles posted:

It's not impossible if it's a power train that was sold here and tested but basically you have to modify it to be like a U.S. car and potentially get the manufacturer's cooperation.

A friend of mine did this with his JDM VFR (mid 90s model IIRC) in the mid 00's, said it wasn't too much of a hassle.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
It's probably a little easier on a motorcycle whose NHTSA safety requirements are usually something like "has brakes."

The big thing that prevents this from working on cars is crash tests (aside from EPA stuff on drivetrain). No crash test on that specific vehicle body type = no go, because a manufacturer is gonna say "this vehicle may perform differently in a crash compared to the version sold in the USA."


They don't crash test bikes afaik.

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everdave
Nov 14, 2005
Delivery day!! Got 3 coming in hot. Atrai Turbo van wouldn’t fit on this load hope the little guy isn’t lonely at port. Pic dump incoming in a few hours!

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