|
yeah so the public health danger from particulates goes up exponentially with increased concentration and there's some evidence that PM2.5 from forest fires is worse than any sort of "normal" industrial emissions. I'll have to see if I can dig up the study but my first environmental job was with the state doing open burn and controlled burn enforcement/permitting. It's real bad
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 09:39
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 08:43 |
|
|
BIG HEADLINE posted:There have so been fires there, and they *stink*, too. dang that's a weird wild fire quote:The fire burned through slash on the ground created during logging operations to salvage cedar trees blown down during a 2003 hurricane. The flames crept deep into the peat soils where it continued to smolder and spread, eventually spreading back up to vegetation on the surface of the ground. The depth of the fire created lots of work for firefighters. Crews spent weeks flooding hot areas with an extensive water delivery system including multiple pumps and hoses to thoroughly soak hot spots to prevent the fire from growing. wack
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 10:24
|
|
|
Rah! posted:igloos are made out of white squares lol
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 10:26
|
|
|
Something fun that you might not have thought about is that it’s not only too smoky to go outside, but it’s also weirdly cold because the sun doesn’t work any more. Right now it is three in the morning, and 54 degrees. It’s supposed to get to maybe 68 all day. That’s a small spread to begin with, but if it’s anything like the last few days, it won’t hit the predicted high at all.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 11:09
|
|
|
Real Mean Queen posted:Something fun that you might not have thought about is that it’s not only too smoky to go outside, but it’s also weirdly cold because the sun doesn’t work any more. Right now it is three in the morning, and 54 degrees. It’s supposed to get to maybe 68 all day. That’s a small spread to begin with, but if it’s anything like the last few days, it won’t hit the predicted high at all. it's 47 here right now. i am most comfortable from temps 30-50, so if there's any silver lining to the smoke, it's that i am comfortable temperature-wise especially since it was in the hundreds for the previous like 3 weeks before all the fires. unfortunately all the smoke has also severely pissed off my allergies and asthma, so any positive of this is more than offset by the fact that i can't fuckin breathe.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 11:22
|
|
|
posting my own tweet since it’s easier to post pics this way.. the smoke this morning is loving insane https://twitter.com/louisgodd/status/1305160281195032581?s=21
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 16:07
|
|
|
yeah smoke in Seattle is visually worse than yesterday. I can't see halfway down the block anymore.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 16:10
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 16:32
|
|
|
 So about that thing we talked about where tropical storms can be more dangerous to places like New Orleans because they linger and dump fuckloads of water instead of blasting clean through the city . . . ?
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 16:34
|
|
|
Just got a text that TS Sally is expected to hit the city as a Cat 2. Gonna round out my prep by working a double today for a restaurant that gives zero fucks about its employees.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 16:35
|
|
|
C2C - 2.0 posted:Just got a text that TS Sally is expected to hit the city as a Cat 2. Gonna round out my prep by working a double today for a restaurant that gives zero fucks about its employees.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 17:14
|
|
|
Gonna be so much rain
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 17:59
|
|
|
Yeah the difference between a Cat 1 or 2 here is negligible. The problem is Sally is moving slow. For a city that floods during a 30 minute rainstorm, New Orleans is gonna eat poo poo from a slow TS or hurricane.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 18:04
|
|
|
forgot where I saw it yesterday but some city in OR had a reading over 1300 at one point. I think it was eugene or salem
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 18:57
|
|
|
At three in the morning it was 54 degrees. Now, half an hour to noon, it is 55 degrees. Please take a minute and think about what it means for there to be so much smoke in the air that the sun stops working.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 19:31
|
|
|
Real Mean Queen posted:At three in the morning it was 54 degrees. Now, half an hour to noon, it is 55 degrees. Please take a minute and think about what it means for there to be so much smoke in the air that the sun stops working. So you're saying we can counter global warming if we just burn down all the forests?
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 19:39
|
|
|
Isn't that like proof that nuclear winter theory was right in a way? Burn up so many things that it ends up filling the entire atmosphere with particulates that it drops the entire average degrees on earth?
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 19:39
|
|
|
PostNouveau posted:So you're saying we can counter global warming if we just burn down all the forests? A large volcano going off would do it too
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 19:44
|
|
|
Please, someone who's good at math: How much larger would the west coast fires have to be in order to maintain the IPCC 1.5-degree target, assuming they kept burning continuously for the next 1000 years?
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 19:44
|
|
|
lol I just realized Tom Ridge was right just the chemical weapon attack was from burning our forests down that owns (us)
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 19:47
|
|
|
reducing sunlight also reduces oceanic and terrestrial carbon sequestration via photosynthesis and causes a host of other problems but temporarily? sure blocking out the sun has immediate day to day effects
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 20:44
|
|
|
the applebees dining room is closed due to a pandemic but we can still eat outside with 600 aqi, hell yeah getting some incredibowls
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 21:49
|
|
|
Gunshow Poophole posted:reducing sunlight also reduces oceanic and terrestrial carbon sequestration via photosynthesis and causes a host of other problems but temporarily? sure blocking out the sun has immediate day to day effects OK we'll burn down the ground forest and start building the sky forests
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 21:51
|
|
|
lol It’s 92F in Pomona, but this morning when there was a giant ash cloud it was 62, which is insane considering just last week the lows were in the 80s and expected to stay that way.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 21:56
|
|
|
Spoondick posted:the applebees dining room is closed due to a pandemic but we can still eat outside with 600 aqi, hell yeah getting some incredibowls i was just thinking it might be worth dying for an incredibowl fiestabowl not so much
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 22:19
|
|
|
welp https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/1305257005846851585
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 22:30
|
|
|
Gunshow Poophole posted:reducing sunlight also reduces oceanic and terrestrial carbon sequestration via photosynthesis and causes a host of other problems but temporarily? sure blocking out the sun has immediate day to day effects we don’t know alot from those days but we know it was us who scorched the sky
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 22:41
|
|
|
Direct hit!
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 22:50
|
|
|
Throw another thousand dead on the pile and laugh at the flies
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 22:54
|
|
|
Well, it'll be fine. FEMA will be there to help out.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 23:00
|
|
|
That storm track is very unfortunate for flooding/storm surge around Lake Pontchartrain, hopefully it doesn't strengthen much.
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 23:03
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:That storm track is very unfortunate for flooding/storm surge around Lake Pontchartrain, hopefully it doesn't strengthen much. "Hopefully the fire doesn't get worse as it burns its way through all those fireworks and fertilizer factories and oil refineries. Fingers crossed!" 
|
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 23:54
|
|
|
I don't get the joke? Storms often don't strengthen much or as much as forecast when they form in the gulf, it's a pretty regular thing. Let me have some optimism cspam
Pryor on Fire has issued a correction as of 00:01 on Sep 14, 2020 |
|
#
?
Sep 13, 2020 23:59
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:I don't get the joke? Storms often don't strengthen much or as much as forecast when they form in the gulf, it's a pretty regular thing. Let me have some optimism cspam *taps calendar*
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2020 00:01
|
|
|
This got me wondering, what’s the AQI of a lungful of cigarette smoke?
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2020 00:14
|
|
|
TACD posted:This got me wondering, what’s the AQI of a lungful of cigarette smoke? This was actually calculated during the Black Summer bushfires here in Sydney quote:A respiratory diseases expert has estimated the effect on your lungs of inhaling Sydney’s current fire haze is the equivalent of smoking 32 cigarettes. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...e76e35894f949f6 So people good at maths can work it out from that.
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2020 00:25
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:I don't get the joke? Storms often don't strengthen much or as much as forecast when they form in the gulf, it's a pretty regular thing. Let me have some optimism cspam sorry bud, this is the doom thread. you might be thinking about the serious, non-doom thread over in SA&L
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2020 00:29
|
|
|
Helith posted:This was actually calculated during the Black Summer bushfires here in Sydney Smoking one cigarette in a phone booth with the door closed results in a 600 PM2.5 https://occup-med.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1745-6673-7-14
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2020 00:58
|
|
|
my friend is volunteering in refugee shelters in new Orleans for all of the people displaced by hurricane Laura (remember that one?) Apparently there are STILL 12,000 people in shelters in nolo alone... and they are prepping for a mandatory evac of all of them. Maximum chaos.
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2020 03:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 08:43 |
|
|
Thesaurus posted:my friend is volunteering in refugee shelters in new Orleans for all of the people displaced by hurricane Laura (remember that one?) Cascading refugee evacuations Weeee
|
|
#
?
Sep 14, 2020 05:12
|
|