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While I agree that it would be lovely to just have a name or something to who exactly is doing this, even just seeing the proliferation of right-wing and libertarian people on Twitter with anime avatars, even just assuming that this will slide to vtubers seemed like a given.
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Bakeneko posted:That tweet implies that vtuber fandoms are especially bad no it doesn't
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I've only seen one anime in the past year and it was Dorohedoro and it was very good. Please don't tell me what nerds on the internet are saying about it. I just like seeing the cartoons do fighting.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Banime. peetubers
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Augus posted:no it doesn't It wasn't clear that that tweet was part of an ongoing discussion. On its own, it looked like he just decided to single out vtuber fans for some reason.
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without context it still doesn't seem like he is saying vtuber fandom is especially bad, he's just saying why a specific type of person may, unintuitively, like vtubers
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I still don't think the argument in his tweet is right but in context it makes more sense. I don't think anybody is gonna deny that right-wingers and reactionaries do seem to love themselves some anime/otaku culture
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Some do and others think it's degenerate filth. It's almost as if liking anime is an aesthetic rather than a moral choice that has very little to do with your political alignment
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Casey Finnigan posted:I've only seen one anime in the past year and it was Dorohedoro and it was very good. Please don't tell me what nerds on the internet are saying about it. I just like seeing the cartoons do fighting. The prevailing reaction to dorohedoro has been people saying they want Noi to kick them in half
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I'll allow it.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:thats loving amazing. what are vtubers? They're even in YuGiOh now.  Allthough Yugioh only needs one internet personality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL8xKz38I-Y
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Irony Be My Shield posted:has very little to do with your political alignment I think I see Arist coming in from the distance to let you know how everything is inherently political
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Casey Finnigan posted:It's not really much different from vocaloids. eh splitting hairs but vocaloids are like an entirely different beast since they're literally just software anyone can use like even if youre a fan of 'hatsune miku' that concept covers thousands of songs released by a variety of producers that aren't like centralized at all, but if youre a fan of Korone youre a fan of Korone, the streamer anyways i think shaun's premise here is dumb because people. watch translated vtuber clips mostly
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the tweet's vaguely worded but the real issue is the 'hit dog will holler!' catchphrasing in the replies. like yeah, everyone whos mildly defensive about being associated with bigots, is secretly a bigot, lol and his argument doesn't really even make sense because a bunch of english language vtubers just debuted and did insane numbers and are very popular. like im sure theres a handful of people handwringing about them but they're broadly popular even with the anime bigots hes talking about. its basically just subtweeting an imaginary person who may or may not exist, for no reason, and then anyone who gets mildly defensive about it is hitler. its pointless. idk. feel like you could talk to vtubers, streamers, etc and make an actual short video about this stuff. obviously most of the big vtubers wouldnt want to comment for a variety of reasons plus most of the big ones are jp-only but there's smaller english and dual language ones you could hit up. then that could be an actual conversation. instead its just nonsense screamed into the void and everyone hates each other more afterwards. which is basically twitter's sole function so nvm Endorph fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Endorph posted:the tweet's vaguely worded but the real issue is the 'hit dog will holler!' catchphrasing in the replies. like yeah, everyone whos mildly defensive about being associated with bigots, is secretly a bigot, lol There was a tweet a few days ago where some was talking about the new Crash Bandicoot game, bringing up Tawna's redesign, going, "  Heh, I bet the AltRightGamerNerdz™ are up in arms about this". However, the general reaction I saw to that tweet was, "What the gently caress are you talking about?"In short:  Irony Be My Shield posted:Everything is political. But that does not imply that you can reliably use someone's political alignment to predict which pieces of media they will enjoy (or vice versa) Yeah, I'm sorry, but that rings hollow to me. I'm not saying it's wrong, but your choice of entertainment is what people use nowadays as the barometer for your political affiliation. Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Leal posted:I think I see Arist coming in from the distance to let you know how everything is inherently political
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Max Wilco posted:Yeah, I'm sorry, but that rings hollow to me. I'm not saying it's wrong, but your choice of entertainment is what people use nowadays as the barometer for your political affiliation.
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Max Wilco posted:Yeah, I'm sorry, but that rings hollow to me. I'm not saying it's wrong, but your choice of entertainment is what people use nowadays as the barometer for your political affiliation. The only people who would do this are people who don't know anything else about politics
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Max Wilco posted:There was a tweet a few days ago where some was talking about the new Crash Bandicoot game, bringing up Tawna's redesign, going, " gamer nerds did cry about her redesign, but it's the same people who also have no personality outside of being mad about the (((SJWs))) and cry about literally everything. it never went big so you'd only see it if you like to go septic tank diving, aka looking at twitter feeds of people who follow The Quartering or subreddits for people that still care about gamergate
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I think trying to pretend that there isn't a huge problem of openly fascist weebs is very funny given that one of the largest cesspits of far right dweebs on the internet is 4chan a website literally founded on watching anime pornography. Just like not all Star Trek fans are pedophiles but all or almost all pedophiles are Star Trek fan. Not all weebs are fascist, almost all fascists under a certain age are weebs. edit: Or for a more directly related example with more overlap the problems war games and OSR RPGs have with fascists taking over their spaces. Terrible Opinions fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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JordanKai posted:That's East, though! I’m on the other side of your monitor, so my West is your East.
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RottenK posted:gamer nerds did cry about her redesign, but it's the same people who also have no personality outside of being mad about the (((SJWs))) and cry about literally everything. it never went big so you'd only see it if you like to go septic tank diving, aka looking at twitter feeds of people who follow The Quartering or subreddits for people that still care about gamergate I notice Hambly deleting his Twitter didn't last long. Certainly not the 30 days before the account is scrubbed.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I think trying to pretend that there isn't a huge problem of openly fascist weebs is very funny given that one of the largest cesspits of far right dweebs on the internet is 4chan a website literally founded on watching anime pornography. Just like not all Star Trek fans are pedophiles but all or almost all pedophiles are Star Trek fan. Not all weebs are fascist, almost all fascists under a certain age are weebs. Like yeah, it's a genre of person that exists, but it's not a problem that has anything at all to do with anime or fans of anime who aren't obvious fascists. I don't know what you want people to do or expect about it, but demonstrably, yelling at people and being suspicious of anyone who likes goku isn't really the methodology for fixing it. And again, there's a ton of rightwingers who would pearl clutch about anime for being foreign or having girls in it or whatever. And 4chan itself has devolved pretty rapidly from its origin point to the extent that you have a lot of people there who argue that anime is for losers or weirdos or is secretly leftist propaganda, or whatever. Endorph fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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every condemnation of fascists that like a thing is also a condemnation of every single other person who likes that thing and you should absolutely get upset and defensive every time someone complains about white supremacists that wear ahegao t-shirts, it will definitely never get tedious or old
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Augus posted:every condemnation of fascists that like a thing is also a condemnation of every single other person who likes that thing and you should absolutely get upset and defensive every time someone complains about white supremacists that wear ahegao t-shirts, it will definitely never get tedious or old edit: for real tho im not upset its just like, if i sadi 'every trans person below a certain age likes anime' thatd be an insane thing to say even though a lot of anime has trans themes and a lot of trans people are into it but 'every fascist below a certain age likes anime' is just a thing that happens and everyone rolls with? its weird and i dont get why its an etched in part of discourse in some peoples brains Endorph fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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Katt posted:What's the deal with Big Joel? He was raising concerns over height discrimination against men in dating and it reeked of incel talking points. Maybe it is, incels do go hard on it. But it's also just kind of a thing you get used to if you're short. Tall women tend to face a similar issue but while there's no end of dudes who get horny for tall women, there are very, very few people in general who lust after short guys. And short guys are just kind of expected to suck it up, perpetually. Because if you react to the endless barrage of mockery and harassment you experience in your daily life then it's clearly just evidence that you're a tiny hobbit with a napoleon complex which means people are clearly justified in mocking and harassing you. Because it's still just kind of socially okay to be a complete rear end in a top hat to short guys for no other reason than they're short. And I dunno, I think it's kind of hosed up that, generally speaking, it's not entirely uncommon that a point of bullying is that a lot of short boys are told they should just kill themselves because they'll never be successful in life because they're short.
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Endorph posted:yeah, im glad you agree with me. thank you there's a decent argument to be had that because anime has become so ingrained in internet counterculture every single online counterculture has a huge overlap with anime interests/aesthetics but that's obviously not what you're complaining about here (which i agree with frankly) anyway rowling is being loving awful again https://twitter.com/visixnshart/status/1305586173188939776
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The PYF Idiots on Social Media thread was posting excerpts from her book and there's also a weird recurring theme of Islamophobia, or at least something of an obsession with hijabs and burqas, which was surprising. It would be funny if it wasn't so bad, she's gone full stereotype TERF where the existence of trans people is an intrusive thought. The story looks like it just grinds to a halt for panicked asides. It's basically the Scottish episode of Garth Marengi's Darkplace.
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J.K. Rowling is continuing her descent into winemom Tom Clancy, yes.
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Endorph posted:yeah, im glad you agree with me. thank you Time to repost the one true instance of horseshoe theory:  Akko and Sailor Jupiter deffo belong on the left. Don't know why Alibaba's on the right, tho.
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Droyer posted:So I made a video about the history of Diaclone (one of the predecessors of the Transformers) and I was told it was ok to plug your own stuff here as long as you're not weird about it. Give it a listen if old toy history interests you! This is from a couple days back, but this is a pretty cool look at some old toys and old toy advertisements! Droyer, you ought to link this in the General Mecha thread.
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Beefstew posted:Time to repost the one true instance of horseshoe theory:
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Beefstew posted:Time to repost the one true instance of horseshoe theory:
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IronicDongz posted:this is missing "marble statue av nationalist guy" but otherwise true Yeah, Statues are definitely missing, but I guess they fall under a similar category as philosopher portraits, just more extreme.
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I've seen more right-wingers with smug Akko icons than not, unfortunately. She deserves better than that and being in a bunch of ableist slur memes.
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Endorph posted:yukari akiyama is good and my friend Seriously how dare you put the sweet, clearly queer coded, tank nerd in the right wing side of the spectrum 
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People who are very online are more likely to get into radical/reactionary politics and also largely online subcultures such as anime
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