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BiggerBoat posted:I really like Simonson's kind of loose, weird blocky style. It seems like it shouldn't work but he really pulls it off and I find his stuff is just so...I dunno...interesting to look at. He'd be fun to ink. I used to have that "How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way" book way back in the day and me and my friend used to take turns inking the pencil drawings in it. You might be surprised to see how different they came out and, doing that exercise, I really learned a lot back then about how much an inker really contributes. I think it was the main Marvel thread I posted in last week where I said I was going through Ultimate Spider-Man and the art just goes to another gear around issue 85 or so. Same Mark Bagley pencilling, new inker and colorist. Halloween Jack posted:The 90s! Hologram covers! Skimpy outfits! Badass helmets! Big guns! Ammo pouches! Leather jackets! Fishing vests! To the EXXXTREME! The Fantastic Four Plus a Couple More!
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As a kid, I wound up with a banged up copy of ASM #317 a couple of years after it came out and was very confused by how the Thing looked. Trusting the editor's note to point me at an explanation for his appearance, I eventually tracked down FF #226 and... learned nothing of value (because the actual issue was FF #326). As a result, it took me years to realize that this wasn't just Todd McFarlane being weird about how he drew the Thing. 
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Sep 15, 2020 16:58
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That first panel reads so much like the Beatles scene in Walk Hard.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:12
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Halloween Jack posted:The 90s! Hologram covers! Skimpy outfits! Badass helmets! Big guns! Ammo pouches! Leather jackets! Fishing vests! To the EXXXTREME! Bahahahahaha all standing characters have their feet obstructed. This is like some artist take art instructions over the phone from Liefeld.
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Sep 15, 2020 19:09
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Thing in a helmet giving big Shockmaster energy.
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Sep 15, 2020 19:40
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Hulk Smash! posted:
NGL, that was one of my favorite eras of the FF and I loved that look for the Thing. I was blown away as a little kid when he and Ms Marvel got transformed and thought the whole team with those two, Crystal, and Human Torch was awesome. Engelhart has his flaws as a writer but he really dramatically changed that book and made it exciting. They had a hell of a run from Byrne-Englehart-Simonson, and even into DeFalco. It did crack me up that while Ben called it his “dinosaur” look, everyone else called it the “pineapple phase”.
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Sep 15, 2020 21:32
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Lobok posted:Spider-Man saw success with a black costume. They could do obsidian Thing. Oh man, maybe he could go by Grimm Obsidian and be the most 90s redesign ever. He can be made of black rock and dress like The Cure. "The time for pugilation is at hand!" trying to imagine drawing page after page of a character made out of fist-sized chunks of shiny obsidian, my arm muscles are doing like Slaine's warp spasm 
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Sep 15, 2020 22:34
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Lobok posted:Spider-Man saw success with a black costume. They could do obsidian Thing. Oh man, maybe he could go by Grimm Obsidian and be the most 90s redesign ever. He can be made of black rock and dress like The Cure. "The time for pugilation is at hand!" Obsidithing is a much better name 
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Sep 16, 2020 14:22
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What was the reason for Thing wearing a helmet in that era? I thought he had a scar ala Doom, but that's almost as stupid and funny as him just trying to hide his identity with it.
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Sep 16, 2020 16:23
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Yeah, it was to protect his face after Wolverine slashed him. If I remember right, the FF were fugitives for a while after the Torch caused a lot of collateral damage.
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Sep 16, 2020 16:25
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Dan Didio posted:What was the reason for Thing wearing a helmet in that era? I thought he had a scar ala Doom, but that's almost as stupid and funny as him just trying to hide his identity with it. Wolverine clawed his face up real good. Like, brain sticking out the side of his head good. It was later healed by someone or something called Hyperstorm.
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Sep 16, 2020 16:29
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That’s right, it was Wolverine! Forgot that crucial detail.
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Yup, and the way I remember it, Wolvie was actually really shocked at himself and tried to apologize.
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Sep 16, 2020 17:14
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Yeah  And the aftermath  FF 374-375
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Sue's "4" cleavage window is a wonder of design.
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site posted:Who's the woman in green Sharon Ventura. Once "She-Thing" The green woman is Lyja. Chinston Wurchill posted:Sue's "4" cleavage window is a wonder of design.
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drat Logan, you mentioned Grimm by name before slashing his face. Pretty sure you meant it.
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I remember the scene where she's offering a huge cash settlement to the college that Johnny accidentally burned down. In that costume.
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Sep 16, 2020 20:26
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theironjef posted:It was later healed by someone or something called Hyperstorm. Wasn’t Hyperstorm Franklin Richards from the future, or aged up by cosmic rays or something like that?
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Splint Chesthair posted:Wasn’t Hyperstorm Franklin Richards from the future, or aged up by cosmic rays or something like that? His son.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:24
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These covers blew me away for Marvel Comics 1602 series
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:These covers blew me away for Marvel Comics 1602 series Series is a solid read, too
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Series is a solid read, too Yeah, I am really loving it. Their interpretations of characters are great
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BiggerBoat posted:I really like Simonson's kind of loose, weird blocky style. It seems like it shouldn't work but he really pulls it off and I find his stuff is just so...I dunno...interesting to look at. He'd be fun to ink. I used to have that "How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way" book way back in the day and me and my friend used to take turns inking the pencil drawings in it. You might be surprised to see how different they came out and, doing that exercise, I really learned a lot back then about how much an inker really contributes. Yeah, inking is very transformative when done by a skilled hand. I like seeing detailed versions of pencils/inks to see the level of looseness/tightness that the artist provides for the pencils, and how the inker interprets them. Jim Lee and Scott Williams shared this one on Twitter which is fun to see. https://twitter.com/ScottW_inks/status/1300085865444601857 He's not a super-big name in comics but I'm friends with Mark Nelson, who did the artwork for the first Dark Horse "Aliens" series, and he shares his pencils and inks all the time on Facebook. Look up his work if you're a fan of critters, dinosaurs, and mystical-looking mages. He inks his own work, so his pencils range from pretty loose to super tight; he still adds in a tremendous amount of texture in the inking process.
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Zoben posted:Yeah, inking is very transformative when done by a skilled hand. I like seeing detailed versions of pencils/inks to see the level of looseness/tightness that the artist provides for the pencils, and how the inker interprets them. Jim Lee and Scott Williams shared this one on Twitter which is fun to see. Beyond the shading choices you can see how much the inks make and define Bane's neck. I follow Francis Manapul on Instagram and he's a triple threat because he'll do pencils, inks, and colours sometimes and he posts a lot of process videos so you can see a piece go from basic breakdowns all the way to finished product.
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Zoben posted:He's not a super-big name in comics but I'm friends with Mark Nelson, who did the artwork for the first Dark Horse "Aliens" series Oh poo poo I read episodes 1, 2, and 6 of that when I was a kid and ended up tracking down the TPB like 20 years later because the art stuck with me (and I wanted know what happened!)
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david_a posted:Oh poo poo It was pretty rad when he lived here in Madison for a while -- I was able to go to his house/studio to interview him as part of my final portfolio class in college. He had a huge room full of comic books and pulled out his Fantastic Fours. He had FF #2 in a bag and, I poo poo ya not, took it out and gave it to me and said "take a look, they're meant to be read." It's pretty cool that this guy I idolized as a kid will comment on my art posts on Facebook and compliment my ink work. Lobok posted:Beyond the shading choices you can see how much the inks make and define Bane's neck. Cool, thanks for the heads up, I'm always looking to check out artists I'm unaware of. I'm old and have definitely not kept up on any current artists since I'll just pick up a finished TPB here and there, but I still follow guys like Jock, Sienkiewicz (of course), and Kenneth Rocafort. For good comic art content, I'm on a big Toppi kick right now (old school, I know) and his compositions and shading were so badass      
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Reminds me of art class when I was younger and our teacher had us do a big page of abstract shapes and we had to fill them with as many different types of patterns and hatching as we could, in B&W only. That rhino has marvelous textures.
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Some really good poo poo on this page
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This might be something controversial given his completely bizarre and unacceptable views on gender, but I recently read Dave Sim's "glamourpuss." It would be quite an understatement to say that it's rather esoteric and bizarre in the "fashion magazine satire" parts, but within that veneer lies a very interesting and exhaustive analysis of the evolution of the artistic styles used in comic art. He focuses on the artists Milt Caniff, Alex Raymond, and Stan Drake, and while the narrative follows a biographic description of their lives and the styles, the art consists of portraits and recreations of their panels with Sim attempting to use the same tools as them (either brush or pen). As an artist myself I found it rather interesting, and with all of his personality faults, Sim is still a masterful pen artist. Goddamn, he's one whom I wish hadn't fallen off the deep end as I love "Cerebus." Anywho, here are a few choice panels from "glamourpuss." The fashion parts still include some rad art, which are almost entirely recreations of photos and advertisements from Vogue or Cosmo or some poo poo. But I skipped almost all of that, it lost me after reading a few pages. (I hope these images aren't too large, I forget what the rules are for width/tables/whatever. They fit on my screen but I'll edit if they're out of the bounds)   
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Halloween Jack posted:This reminded me of how much I enjoyed a particular issue of Fantastic Four from my youth, inks and pencils by Simonson: I see this art and i instantly know it’s the terminator vs robocop guy,very clean art and those faces are identical.
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From Immortal Hulk: The Threshing Place That's a different way to depict the transformation.
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Probably closer to what it feels like. I like the colouring. Is it pastels? Digital fakery?
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Sep 30, 2020 14:56
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Going full Akira body horror route. That's some lovely art, is the whole book like that?
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Infinitum posted:Going full Akira body horror route. Yeah, it's a one-off but the whole issue is in that style. It's by Mike del Mundo, probably best appreciated around here for Weirdworld. He also did a chunk of the 2018 Thor run.
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Immortal Hulk is chock full of gnarly as hell transformations. 
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that's pretty incredible but how does it go the other way, I honestly can't imagine where they would go with that concept.
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Flesh Forge posted:that's pretty incredible but how does it go the other way, I honestly can't imagine where they would go with that concept. Oh the transformations back are equally gross. 
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really some astounding stuff, proof that there's things you can do with comics that you can't do with any other medium  at least not practically, I guess you could have billions of 3d artists at Marvel Studios try to adapt what a couple of brilliant 2d artists can do on a page.
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