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Fame Douglas posted:Is this actually true? I read this repeated on forums, but there doesn't seem to be any source. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-11-28-fi-4993-story.html for the newton.
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burning swine posted:Ryzen on the horizon Event for Ryzen
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TerminalRaptor posted:Event for Ryzen
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-11-28-fi-4993-story.html quote:Some analysts speculated that Apple might be eyeing ARM chips for use in a future notebook-sized computer, but Tessler declined comment on future products. hmm
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being back SPARC
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when it comes to threads ripped there's only one chip equipped ain't no compromisin' in this ryzen
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Pfft let me know when AMD supports blast processing
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echinopsis posted:being back SPARC run BeOS on it
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BeOS Do SPARC
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:BeOS chaos option AmigaOS, for the freaks
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TerminalRaptor posted:Pfft let me know when AMD supports blast processing why don't you process THIS blast (bends over and grabs ankles)
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TerminalRaptor posted:Pfft let me know when AMD supports blast processing amdoes what ain’tel
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Apple silicon is actually PowerPC
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TerminalRaptor posted:Pfft let me know when AMD supports blast processing The 16-Core Megashock!
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3dnow vs mmx who wore it better
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Cyrix 6x86
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I remember getting a Sega-Genesis-cartridge-era pentium with MMX and man if there was ever a thing that didn’t matter even a bit that was purely marketing hype it was MMX. I’m sure it did something but gently caress if anyone who actually used it could tell MMX was Intels Blast Processing
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the cartridges were pentium II and the earlier generation pentium III
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I remember getting a Sega-Genesis-cartridge-era pentium with MMX and man if there was ever a thing that didn’t matter even a bit that was purely marketing hype it was MMX. I remember seeing this running at comp usa with marketing stuff proclaiming that it was mmx enabled and being super impressed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViRPIlGTdtQ but that's all I ever knew about it
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mmx did not matter for the first few years for the usual reason; new hardware is pointless until software uses it. in some more absolute sense though mmx was only useless in the broader sense that computers are useless.
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mmx lives on in avx dont worry. intel is still providing the proprietary instructions that maybe, possibly do something
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a large number of programs you use likely use mmx instructions now because eh, why not also 3dnow was a superset of mmx
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akadajet posted:I remember seeing this running at comp usa with marketing stuff proclaiming that it was mmx enabled and being super impressed. Man, I was just thinking of pod. I remember they had a ton of additional cars and courses you could download. Nowadays that'd all be paid dlc.
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they made a big deal about unreal using mmx for their software renderer, but by the time it actually came out most systems that could run it had a hardware 3d accelerator
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yeah, the reason mmx was so useless is that it was designed to accelerate software 3d rendering but it came out right as dedicated 3d graphics cards started becoming common. also it only worked with integer operations, again right as 3d graphics settled on using floats. also to avoid operating systems having to rewrite their context switching code to support new registers for mmx they just aliased the mmx registers into the x87 register file which resulted in all kinds of weirdness:Wikipedia posted:To avoid compatibility problems with the context switch mechanisms in existing operating systems, the MMX registers are aliases for the existing x87 FPU registers, which context switches would already save and restore. Unlike the x87 registers, which behave like a stack, the MMX registers are each directly addressable (random access). sse2 was really where intel finally got vector instructions (and really floating point instructions in general) right for the first time. probably the best decision amd made with x64 was to drop x87 and just make sse2 part of the standard instruction set.
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ssse3 is better because it has a higher number and an extra s, which the idiots in charge of sse4 clearly didn't think of
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the extra 's' stands for 'sssse'
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x86 is layers upon layers of garbage
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The Management posted:x86 is layers upon layers of garbage dsyp
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The Management posted:x86 is layers upon layers of garbage i've heard this many times, and i don't doubt it, but i'm curious: if the billions spent developing x86 chips had been spent on different architecture, what would we have now that we don't today? i.e. would computers be 20% faster, would they use half the power? obviously this is extremely speculative but i'm curious as to what the cost of x86 cruft is
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alternately: if some other arch had won out early on, would we now be complaining about that arch by now?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:alternately: if some other arch had won out early on, would we now be complaining about that arch by now? yes
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i've heard this many times, and i don't doubt it, but i'm curious: if the billions spent developing x86 chips had been spent on different architecture, what would we have now that we don't today? I think compilers account for the quirks as best they can so unless your writing assembly you don't have to worry about the madness, but it's the equivalent of any legacy system where it works but it you have to look behind the covers and understand what is going on God save your soul.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:alternately: if some other arch had won out early on, would we now be complaining about that arch by now? Sometime post the Itanium sales chart.
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it's less that x86 won and more that "endlessly booking bits on to the existing instruction set" won. but it's also that x86 won.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i've heard this many times, and i don't doubt it, but i'm curious: if the billions spent developing x86 chips had been spent on different architecture, what would we have now that we don't today? they might be faster, but less power id say no. the competing architectures were all really for unix servers (sparc, power, mips) and obviously from the G5 debacle power consumption was not anyones concern but apple
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josh04 posted:it's less that x86 won and more that "endlessly booking bits on to the existing instruction set" won. but it's also that x86 won. The hardware analog to a web browser engine.
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intel has the cash to ad blitz the hell out of some nonsense like avx 512 but they lack their cold cynical hearts that they had in the 90’s. breaking out the breakdancing clean suit guys and hyping up “Advanced Vector X” technology instead of Core i7 n+1 gen will move way more units because people are still idiot rubes, now more than ever.
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intel really needs a chip that does something even more obscene to a thread than just rip them threadraper? threadshredder? threadmincer? threadobliterator? threadfucker yep that’s it (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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did you used to write for penny arcade about 15 years ago?
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