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Nfcknblvbl posted:Anyone in this thread poo poo talking the 3080 is sandbagging so they can get one for themselves. 
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Can I trace rays on my 1080Ti and why the piss do I give a poo poo about the 3080's performance relative to a card that's been around for ages that I haven't already bought? I mean I get YouTubers aren't our best and brightest but surely they appreciate that if you already have a 2080Ti and are considering upgrading to a 3080 you probably don't give a solitary gently caress about performance. Especially when they all close their videos with "don't upgrade unless you need to." Like ok fella if I needed to upgrade why the gently caress would I give a poo poo about a 2080Ti that I don't have? Theophany fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Sep 16, 2020 |
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Sep 16, 2020 21:09
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TVGM posted:A Thermaltake Core V1 buddy spotted? SKTC Q2. I was so, so sad when they announced the fe card length at 5mm too long. I'm toying with the idea of removing the front panel usb to free up some space, the case itself is 300mm long... It /should/ fit damnit.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:12
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MarcusSA posted:Which as I've said before its the game makers fault for not letting the user know what the gently caress this setting actually does in game. I don't really want to go watch a 45 min DF video on what every fuckin setting actually does. That's a totally valid point and they really should give basic explanations (or maybe even more saliently, stop offering stupid rear end settings that do nothing at huge cost). I usually just start playing the game, and every 5 minutes or so I'll tweak a setting or two, see how it runs and if it effects the graphics much, repeat for about 20-30 mins just playing the game as normal, and by the end of that time it's usually pretty clear what the worst offenders are. There's also almost always threads about performance for any new demanding game within hours of that games release that go over the no-brainer things to change. But yeah it's annoying, agreed. Still, I feel a small break-in process on a new game is worth it in exchange for often 20-40% better performance.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:13
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shrike82 posted:the luxury $1500 Ampere card is not going to hit 4K60 with RT and DLSS - i'd say yes that means Ampere can't handle RT A weird take from a guy who literally said he didn't understand why anyone was targeting 4k@60 and insinuated we should all be playing at 1440p instead.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:14
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or 1440p144 so 
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Theophany posted:Can I trace rays on my 1080Ti and why the piss do I give a poo poo about the 3080's performance relative to a card that's been around for ages that I haven't already bought? I'm... not sure what you're mad at? They're comparing new best to current best and saying it's 20-30% better for 1/3 the price or whatever?
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Theophany posted:Can I trace rays on my 1080Ti and why the piss do I give a poo poo about the 3080's performance relative to a card that's been around for ages that I haven't already bought? I figure that comparing to the 1080Ti is because it was such a monster for so long, and a lot of people decided to forego the 20xx series if they already had a 1080Ti. Probably one of those things where it's just such a cultural touchstone of the last 3-4 years of reviewing. As for the final blurb, probably just trying to offset any accusations of being a shill for whatever they're reviewing. I figure it's not a bad message to have overall - "Relax on the hype train, make a decision based on your actual use case" isn't exactly the message Jensen was pushing two weeks ago.
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All the reviews focusing on comparing it to 2080 Ti are flawed. Yes it should be faster and it is by 25%, but the proper comparison is the 2080. Just because reviewers got them for free doesn’t change the fact that almost nobody bought a $1200 video card. edit: apparently Steam survey says 2080 is 0.96% and 2080Ti is 0.91% so they basically had the same sales? 
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Sep 16, 2020 21:19
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shrike82 posted:or 1440p144 so You did see that with DLSS it can hit >60 at 4k Ultra, yes? PCGamer did RTX/DLSS runs and found the slowest game was Metro Exodus at 63FPS. Slap *sync on to cover up the 1% and 0.1% excursions below 60 and you're good to go. It'll be a little lower for 1440p@144Hz, but, yeah, the 3080 can do RTX with DLSS 2.0 pretty well now.
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control doesn't hit 4K60 with RTX and DLSS
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shrike82 posted:control doesn't hit 4K60 with RTX and DLSS *with rtx on high repiv posted:in the case of control, the medium raytracing setting (reflections only) gives the vast majority of the visual benefit
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Anyone in this thread poo poo talking the 3080 is sandbagging so they can get one for themselves. Not really...most people are poo poo-talking the pricing & forced scarcity angle which kind of go hand in hand (similar to 1000 series & bitcoin mining driving prices sky high). Sounds like they're trying to rake in some easy cash from early rush buyers who have more money than sense to offset the loss they'd take due to the pandemic & fewer people buying high-end equipment at the moment. Nobody living on unemployment, in a layoff/furlough, or with minimal savings is going to want to shell out almost $1000 for a video card when they've got more important things to consider.
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MarcusSA posted:Which as I've said before its the game makers fault for not letting the user know what the gently caress this setting actually does in game. I don't really want to go watch a 45 min DF video on what every fuckin setting actually does.  I try the old guess what gives the best performance/visual quality for awhile and then I usually Google: game name optimized settings and get way more performance with some unintuitive stuff so yeah.. I know poorly coded perma early access game 7 days to die I got over 100 fps with one of those guides and I was lucky to get 60-80 with my own intuition. (I was shooting for 1440px141fps but 90-110 is close enough without looking awful)
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Sep 16, 2020 21:23
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Oh poo poo they cancelled at least one of the Amazon MSI 3080 preorders. Still have one MSI preorder left and 2x Zotac preorders left. Oops ouch owie I wonder if that means they just aren't getting that one at all for launch.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:24
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I have a 1060 6gb, is this an upgrade? I just want to be able to play Flight Simulator and Civ 6. Can I have your 2080ti please.
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Charles posted:I have a 1060 6gb, is this an upgrade? I just want to be able to play Flight Simulator and Civ 6. Can I have your 2080ti please. Anything can run civ 6. nothing can run fs
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Sep 16, 2020 21:26
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VorpalFish posted:SKTC Q2. I was so, so sad when they announced the fe card length at 5mm too long.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:29
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shrike82 posted:control doesn't hit 4K60 with RTX and DLSS It can't do 4k@60 on MSFS, either. Does that mean the 3080 can't do 4k? No. It just means one game decided to make some real performance-killing decisions. With 4k, max settings, max RT, and DLSS on it got: Metro Exodus: 63 FPS SotTR: 69 FPS Wolfenstein: 124 FPS CoD: Warzone: 80FPS Control: 72FPS The Control data is per the Verge--but with RT + no DLSS it got 45 FPS, maybe that's what you saw?
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Taima posted:Oh poo poo they cancelled at least one of the Amazon MSI 3080 preorders. Same, just got the MSI Gaming X cancelled on me. I suppose it likely means they won't have them at all tomorrow, but I was holding out hope they'd at least keep the order active for whenever they do get them.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:32
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Yeah FS2020 is a bad example for GPU gains, you will be constrained by the GPU if its a 1060/1070/etc. But on 2080 and above you enter the realm where MS put everything onto one core and you need a mythological 10GHz CPU to get good frames.
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3080 is a 4K60+ card and anyone saying it's not is delusional or have insanely unrealistic standards. Note sure how much these goalposts have moved in the last week.
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Put another way, when is the last time a new video card release just let you run any game in existence at the time at arbitrarily high resolutions & frame-rates without ever compromising on a single setting?
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techpowerup had control 4k50ish with DLSS and RTX
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sean10mm posted:Put another way, when is the last time a new video card release just let you run any game in existence at the time at arbitrarily high resolutions & frame-rates without ever compromising on a single setting? Geforce 256?
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sean10mm posted:Put another way, when is the last time a new video card release just let you run any game in existence at the time at arbitrarily high resolutions & frame-rates without ever compromising on a single setting? October 28, 2020  this is Paul bait
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Sweclockers did notice a difference in CPU temps. Closed case with a Noctua aircooler on the cpu.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Geforce 256? 8800 GTX was a monster. Shamed the 7950gx2 or even 7900s in sli. God I’m happy we don’t have to mess around with SLI to get a high-resolution display to run well.
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I'm going to lol when I get ready to pull the trigger at 8AM only to find out that they dropped the cards at midnight and they're all sold out.
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El_Molestadore posted:Sweclockers did notice a difference in CPU temps. Closed case with a Noctua aircooler on the cpu. The 3080 puts out drastically more heat in general than a 2080 Ti though, so I'm not sure if its's the cooler design or just the general dumping of more heat into the case that's going on there?
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sean10mm posted:I'm... not sure what you're mad at? I don't have a 2080Ti because $1500 is a bit rich for my blood. Steam hardware surveys would suggest I'm not in the minority. That makes the narrow relative comparisons difficult to properly interpret and unhelpful when it comes to a buying decision. I'd wager the vast majority are coming from 7, 9 and 10 series cards, not 20 series.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:45
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Yeah 7950gx2 which didn't have a driver that actually used both GPUs. loving NVIDIA
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Theophany posted:I don't have a 2080Ti because $1500 is a bit rich for my blood. Steam hardware surveys would suggest I'm not in the minority. Most of the reviews I've seen have buttloads of charts and graphs comparing it to cards from 1080 on up?
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krysmopompas posted:Did anyone measure the pcb yet? It looks considerably shorter, but anything longer than 265mm will hit my radiator. I haven't seen measurements but I would be shocked if the fe pcb was much longer than 220. Tpu has pictures of it next to the cooler. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-founders-edition/4.html
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sean10mm posted:The 3080 puts out drastically more heat in general than a 2080 Ti though, so I'm not sure if its's the cooler design or just the general dumping of more heat into the case that's going on there? I'd guess the latter but I guess we'll see tomorrow when the AIB reviews are out 
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What are thoughts on the 3070 now that reviews are out? Are we thinking 2080 performance?
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Gabriel S. posted:What are thoughts on the 3070 now that reviews are out? Are we thinking 2080 performance? 2080 Ti is claimed by nvidia, and the 3080 has a big enough lead over the 2080 Ti that it seems very plausible.
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Gabriel S. posted:What are thoughts on the 3070 now that reviews are out? Are we thinking 2080 performance? Probable 2080Ti performance, hovering around there maybe a little less.
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shrike82 posted:techpowerup had control 4k50ish with DLSS and RTX techpowerup.com posted:We used DirectX 12 mode with RTX and DLSS turned off. They got 48 FPS that way. The Verge put RTX and DLSS on and got ~70 FPS.
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DrDork posted:They got 48 FPS that way. The Verge put RTX and DLSS on and got ~70 FPS. wrong 
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