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Dross posted:And as I mentioned before, the other people we were doing this stuff with were people we made lasting connections with, not silent randos from some other server that we summoned on a whim and never saw again. Your party members in modern WoW might as well be AI. This is what I dislike most. Especially on EU servers people basically never speak (afraid they'll speak bad english? Can't speak english?). I might as well play a single player game
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I think in wow a lot of people just disabled party chat
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Sep 16, 2020 15:59
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Wow cool! A massive multiplayer online game! *immediately disables all multiplayer aspects* Phew, much better
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Taear posted:I enjoyed EQ2 PvP a lot, it's still the only MMOG PvP i've played where they allowed tanks to actually taunt. This is why I made the thread for Return of Reckoning (Warhammer Online) private server after the population explosion from LazyPeon video on it and wanted some people to play with. The PvP is still some of the best around when it's good, tanks have tank responsibilities and the nonidentical mirror classes on Order/Destruction keeps PvP fresh depending on what archtype you're playing. The devs need to drop Land of the Dead for the population to come back more but there's still over 1.5k online in the afternoon eastern time. Also it's free.
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Zzulu posted:This is what I dislike most. Especially on EU servers people basically never speak (afraid they'll speak bad english? Can't speak english?). I might as well play a single player game Every EU wow player with confidence in their english plays on private servers and let me tell you, you would much rather they don't speak at all if the alternative is the things that they say
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knox posted:This is why I made the thread for Return of Reckoning (Warhammer Online) private server after the population explosion from LazyPeon video on it and wanted some people to play with. The PvP is still some of the best around when it's good, tanks have tank responsibilities and the nonidentical mirror classes on Order/Destruction keeps PvP fresh depending on what archtype you're playing. The devs need to drop Land of the Dead for the population to come back more but there's still over 1.5k online in the afternoon eastern time. Also it's free. I'm so tempted to do this I enjoyed playing Witch Hunter for the short time I did at the actual game's launch.
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cmdrk posted:That describes SWG for me. I remember coming home and immediately checking my harvester farms. One day I was like... what the gently caress am I doing? and never played again. I can remember the exact moment when I realized I wasn't having fun with WoW anymore. It was during Wrath, about a month after I hit level cap and after doing a couple of middling raids. I was flying across northrend right near the big arena on my drake going for my fifth daily and just had a midair realization that I just wasn't into it anymore and hadn't been for a while and had to stop. Skinner boxes are a hell of a drug
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Zzulu posted:Wow cool! A massive multiplayer online game! Exactly. Just like how in many boring relationships, one partner wants the other to be in the room when they are just scrolling on their phone, but god forbid they interact!!!
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CuddleCryptid posted:I can remember the exact moment when I realized I wasn't having fun with WoW anymore. It was during Wrath, about a month after I hit level cap and after doing a couple of middling raids. I was flying across northrend right near the big arena on my drake going for my fifth daily and just had a midair realization that I just wasn't into it anymore and hadn't been for a while and had to stop. Is your character still flying there?
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People go there on pilgrimages. They point at the sky, telling their companions the legend of how on clear days you can still see the flying empty husk of The One Who Got Away.
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Sep 16, 2020 20:42
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I quit playing wow in Cataclysm partly because I was getting bored, partly because I got an email from a GM stating that they were renaming one of my alts, because another player petitioned to get the name so they could use it.
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jokes posted:Is your character still flying there? No because I occasionally delude myself into going "this might be fun now" and I'm always wrong. Still own every drat expansion to this day and played all of them for maybe 2 hrs. Especially now that the guild that was the one saving grace of it is half a decade dead. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Sep 16, 2020 |
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Sep 16, 2020 20:47
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CuddleCryptid posted:I can remember the exact moment when I realized I wasn't having fun with WoW anymore. It was during Wrath, about a month after I hit level cap and after doing a couple of middling raids. I was flying across northrend right near the big arena on my drake going for my fifth daily and just had a midair realization that I just wasn't into it anymore and hadn't been for a while and had to stop. This is the funny thing about WoW to me. Blizzard and all the players are in such a rush to get to the endgame, and the endgame is boring.
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kedo posted:This is the funny thing about WoW to me. Blizzard and all the players are in such a rush to get to the endgame, and the endgame is boring. After 80 levels of tank and spank instance bosses anything with mechanics was a masterpiece. Then the wikis got filled out and DeadlyBossMods was made and it became a thing where if you didn't take a six week course in crushing any chance of surprise or novelty in the raid then you weren't getting invited, so it just goes back to idly watching meters.
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I can't really tolerate the WoW endgame at all so my usual cycle is that I play the questing stuff at the start of a new expansion, go through the dungeons and do some PvP, maybe dabble a bit with whatever gimmick teh expansion has going for it and then get insanely bored because the only thing that's left to do after all that is fight some braindead bosses a million times over the next few months Like, I like to do a raid once, but only once, really. Then it just becomes work
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I quit playing wow in Cataclysm partly because I was getting bored, partly because I got an email from a GM stating that they were renaming one of my alts, because another player petitioned to get the name so they could use it. They don't do that any more. Nowadays it's automatic 
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Zzulu posted:This is what I dislike most. Especially on EU servers people basically never speak (afraid they'll speak bad english? Can't speak english?). I might as well play a single player game weird, i see a little more random chat on EU ff14 server parties than i saw on US ones neverlose notwithstanding
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You guys are fortunate to quit out of boredom. I have to quit because I'm terminally attracted to the worst performing end-game classes and builds. Nobody except goons will let me raid with them.
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CuddleCryptid posted:After 80 levels of tank and spank instance bosses anything with mechanics was a masterpiece. i mean the thing is, raids are loving long. you really don't want to do the encounters over and over again and blizz has moved further and further in every expansion toward individual responsibility being a thing in raids for everybody involved rather than a few key players. that sounds more engaging than the classic-style raids but the dark side of it is that one person can gently caress it up for the entire group. in classic and BC you could legitimately have a bunch of people in the raid who had no idea what the gently caress they were getting into and it was fine most of the time. personally i'm of the opinion that if the raid bosses weren't any longer than an average dungeon boss then nobody except the top groups would require you to obsessively study the entire raid dungeon before they allow you to participate. who gives a poo poo if you've gotta do a 5 minute encounter a couple of times to get it right? there are really only a few moments of engaging gameplay per raid encounter anyway, so just condense them and save everybody a lot of time and effort.
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To be honest, the fact that I don’t have to interact with people if I don’t want to is a big plus for me in FFXIV. I don’t really want to interact with some rando mmo player
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I'm always surprised that raids are seen as such an integral part of WoW. They take way too long imo, and the amount of effort and focus involved is counter to what attracts me to MMOs in the first place. But apparently market research must show that players want to be sucked away for a long time, I'm still waiting for 3-man dungeons you can complete in ten minutes, or the option to down a single raid boss and be done with it.
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not only are they a massive timesink, if you don't have a premade that you regularly run with I hope you enjoy being kicked halfway through because the raid lead told his friend he could get in on the one boss he needs and you just happen to play the same class
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Chev posted:Nah, even if it weren't all blocky, games like Everquest Next whatever-the-name-was have tried that and it just doesn't work, it needs a bit more structure. They want a cyber Narnia sandbox, not a wasteland where players are gonna add giant sculptures of dicks. they basically want nwn persistent worlds, but there's a downside: those surviving with a large playerbase are roleplaying ones
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Guild Wars 2 had a great idea where you levelled to 80 reasonably quickly and then you scale everywhere and can use all your skills and 'everywhere is endgame' Then promptly ruined it by making magic find a stat on gear so you had to grind for gear anyway. You grinded for magic find on gear so you could more efficiently grind for better gear. Ditch the endless scaling, make the grind be for just sweet cosmetics like clothes and mounts.
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Mr. Pickles posted:they basically want nwn persistent worlds, but there's a downside: those surviving with a large playerbase are roleplaying ones
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I know I’d be interested in RPing but I’s probably have to change my FFXIV character’s name from Buff Garfield
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bewilderment posted:Guild Wars 2 had a great idea where you levelled to 80 reasonably quickly and then you scale everywhere and can use all your skills and 'everywhere is endgame' Magic find was dumb indeed and has long since been removed but the point of the grinding was never to get gear, it was to get gold.
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thetoughestbean posted:I know I’d be interested in RPing but I’s probably have to change my FFXIV character’s name from Buff Garfield Would you? They have lasagna in game and, importantly, cat dads.
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I was randomly thinking about Drift City today, googled a bit, and there is a goddamn remaster?! That game would have been extremely good if not for the Korean grind/cash-shop/p2w combo after the early game. Tempted to try out this version. edit: Looks like it's actually a private server Baller Time fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Biowarfare posted:I wasn't... alive for the first batch of MMOs. I was a highschooler with no social life for my EQ days. A typical night was this: login Travel to area where appropriate for my level at that time put on /lfg and broadcast about every 15 minutes or so that i am LFG Chat with guild members while waiting find group spend 1-2 hours killing stuff log off There were plenty of nights where i failed to find a group and spent hours bsing with people (i was a utility class that was not in high demand except for very specific circumstances) My guild required you to raid at least 2 nights a week, and that was generally a 3-4 hour commitment. There is no way i could have done it with any kind of real life social life It really came down to there wasn't really anything else out there. On the other hand, despite the quality of life improvements made by next gen MMO's, i never had the same level of friendship with in game folks as i did in EQ.
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i've come to realize that my fondly remembered everquest friendships were the result of shared suffering, trauma bonding except in lower guk
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thetoughestbean posted:I know I’d be interested in RPing but I’s probably have to change my FFXIV character’s name from Buff Garfield one of the fun things about roleplay is that good communities will "yes, and" silly poo poo the same way improv groups do as long as you're willing to commit to the bit
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the best thing about bad roleplay groups however is when they try to rule police your glamour/transmogs when you're just hanging out nearby like no dudes my backstory is that my day-job between adventures is that i'm a male model, I can not and will not put on a shirt
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CYBEReris posted:one of the fun things about roleplay is that good communities will "yes, and" silly poo poo the same way improv groups do as long as you're willing to commit to the bit Yes, and is the best way to RP. Walked into the middle of a scene two days ago where a player just collapsed in the middle of doing normal stuff and everyone ran with it and tried different ways to help them. Was a lot of fun.
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Chev posted:That kinda seems like an upside though? As people in it for the virtual world aspect would naturally be prone to roleplaying in the first place. It certainly is an upside for me, a complete and total rpg geek. But the mmo crowd is not exactly the rp-ing type, imo.
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Did something bad happen to Black Desert? The threads inactive and it gets no press attention.
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It's the shining example of mediocrity. People will talk about a train wreck, and they'll talk about something they love, but something tepid? Just fades.
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Baron Porkface posted:Did something bad happen to Black Desert? The threads inactive and it gets no press attention. combat's still great, but it's also still a single player game with korean mmo level grinds lol
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Mulva posted:It's the shining example of mediocrity. People will talk about a train wreck, and they'll talk about something they love, but something tepid? such is the fate of so many MMOs
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Truga posted:combat's still great, but it's also still a single player game with korean mmo level grinds lol Also there really isn't an endgame more than making money, but there isn't anything too exciting to spend money *on*
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