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the malignant mind of a scalper is alien to me but i'd figure they'd want to turn around the units asap while consumers are still hyped up and there's no news about restocking
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Sickening posted:Cite your sources because this is amazing. Nvidia definitely uses Digital River which definitely has an API so it's not that hard to connect the dots. Someone could have been continuously polling the API for new product listings and then submitted the new orders the second a product listing with "3080" in the name came up. Nvidia claims to be verifying all orders manually so maybe they can cancel the ones they found were submitted programmatically? NoDamage fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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I was considering ordering from a PC builder because I am very lazy and I noticed they had the 3080 as an option (NZXT BLD for those curious). I figured it was just sort of a pre-order thing where I could buy a system and maybe get it in a month or two. While screwing around for 10 minutes or so with the configuration suddenly I noticed it cross the 3080 out on my list and say 'sorry this is out of stock now' and replace the option with a 2080TI for much more money. Turns out they actually had the things in stock and I missed my chance because I was pointlessly considering Intel vs AMD. Welp that's my story.
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I find it hard to think of a tech launch that went this poorly. Of my 5 friends who were looking to upgrade, NONE of us got a card. All of us were F5-ing and checking multiple sights to try to snag a card. Reddit is full of people posting about their orders getting canceled and it seems like bots legit bought most of the supply.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Why immediately put them up when 1) there's organized anti-scalper activity at the moment, and 2) you can let the impatient assholes do your market research for you. If I was scalping I wouldn’t want my account to be associated with a 10$k transaction that’s likely to make the news either
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Sickening posted:Cite your sources because this is amazing. I saw this that covered how a lot of scalpers got cards today: https://www.pcmag.com/news/how-a-bot-bought-dozens-of-rtx-3080-units-before-consumers-could-grab-them
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Bedlam posted:I find it hard to think of a tech launch that went this poorly. Of my 5 friends who were looking to upgrade, NONE of us got a card. All of us were F5-ing and checking multiple sights to try to snag a card. Reddit is full of people posting about their orders getting canceled and it seems like bots legit bought most of the supply. Yeah normally when I'm in this situation it's because my dumbass didn't preorder when I had the chance a few months ago.
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Sep 18, 2020 01:37
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Charge the scalpers for every card they buy and then don't give them a thing
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Sep 18, 2020 01:37
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Still holding out hope for my Amazon or B&H order. I’d prefer the B&H Asus card though since it seems like it’s a solid choice.
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MarcusSA posted:Still holding out hope for my Amazon or B&H order. My amazon MSI got nuked yesterday. I wouldn’t hold out hope.
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Sep 18, 2020 01:39
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the thing thsi reminds me of most strongly is the days when people were trying to buy Wiis.
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shrike82 posted:the malignant mind of a scalper is alien to me but i'd figure they'd want to turn around the units asap while consumers are still hyped up and there's no news about restocking Keep in mind that 3080 scalpers likely include many very experienced people who cut their teeth in the ridiculous sneaker/streetwear drop world (Jordans, Supreme, and so on). They likely have sophisticated and meticulous plans and have their ear to the ground around the indefinite scarcity of the card. They know just as much as us the rumblings around card shortages through the rest of the year. mA fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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Sep 18, 2020 01:45
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NoDamage posted:Sorry I either saw it on Twitter or Reddit, can't remember where. Not the most reliable place but the sequence of events is entirely plausible. https://store.nvidia.com/store/nvidia/en_US/buy/productID.5438481700/clearCart.yes/nextPage.QuickBuyCartPage
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Impermanent posted:the thing thsi reminds me of most strongly is the days when people were trying to buy Wiis. It reminds me of buying BlizzCon tickets during the Before Times(TM).
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i wonder how many scalpers have put up listing with 3080s they dont actually for sure know they're going to receive
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Bounce Alerts is just straight up trolling now: https://twitter.com/BounceAlerts/status/1306642888785235968
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Verviticus posted:i wonder how many scalpers have put up listing with 3080s they dont actually for sure know they're going to receive
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Sep 18, 2020 01:53
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Shogunner posted:>Bot protection was in place, orders were human Yeah the Ventus card was in stock for maybe 30 seconds and most people had it deleted out of their cart while trying to check out, none of the other cards had any stock afaik.
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Sep 18, 2020 01:54
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If it was supposed to be one card per customer, why can't they just go through and correct every bot's multicard purchase to just one card? If the buyers were violating the terms of sale then it's not like they have legal grounds to stand on.
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mA posted:Bounce Alerts is just straight up trolling now: https://twitter.com/BounceAlerts/status/1306642888785235968 Could honestly just be fake marketing since they are advertising a paid service after all, but who knows.
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Sep 18, 2020 01:59
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https://twitter.com/EVGA_JacobF/status/1306758713038962689 well that makes the $100 premium worth it alone folks!!
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FungiCap posted:Could honestly just be fake marketing since they are advertising a paid service after all, but who knows. Maybe, but they do seem to be a pretty well known cook group on reddit.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:If it was supposed to be one card per customer, why can't they just go through and correct every bot's multicard purchase to just one card? If the buyers were violating the terms of sale then it's not like they have legal grounds to stand on. They could however; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TflqHkJx6EY. Botters can use multiple credit card numbers. I think the best solution is to use a simple custom captcha that you change every time you do a release you care about. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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Sickening posted:Than buy a scalped one if money isn't an issue? It's not even that bad, there were some people with them in-hand, photographed, Buy It Now, selling for around $1400. Plenty of people would have bought it here if it was $1400 MSRP in the first place I'll bet.
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for some perspective, I looked back at some of the stuff that was said about the 1080 launch back in 2016. Fry's in LA had a launch allocation of 5 units. Amazon UK had a launch allocation of 44 units. OCUK got an allocation of 10 units. Early Asus 1070 shipments were batches of 5 units. https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4lc1c6/frys_was_good_to_me_heres_my_1080/d3m1nuu/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4n4f16/amazon_uk_now_taking_preorders_on_evga_and_msi/d40qzjx/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4ocsc2/uk_strix_delayed_til_1st_of_july_from_ocuk_scan/d4buvhd/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4qkmzw/asus_strix_gtx_1070_batch_of_5_arrived_june_29th/ vega was pretty rough too, only 16k units worldwide for both SKUs combined. this isn't the end of the world, supply will probably normalize in 2 months or so. Again, I think the reason for choosing this exact launch window is to allow the requisite amount of time for the inventory problems to clear before the holiday. Tech launches are 100% guaranteed to sell out these days, and 100% guaranteed to be general shitshows. So you don't do your launch in November when it's going to gently caress up your holiday shopping season (looks meaningfully at RTG).
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Sep 18, 2020 02:20
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seems worse than pascal - demand is higher, supply even lower i would not be surprised if people aren't able to get a card by CP2077
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Paul MaudDib posted:for some perspective, I looked back at some of the stuff that was said about the 1080 launch back in 2016. There's definitely more people willing to shell out big $ for GPUs these days, the Titan X Pascal stayed in stock for five days, the 3090 I hope it stays in stock for five seconds.
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For those goons that actually care about Fortnite performance, I did some games earlier. 2080 Super 1440p with Gsync max RT settings on Performance DLSS ran anywhere from 54-75 fps during gameplay. During 3d menus, it goes well over 100fps. Obviously performance is not at the 100+ that people like if they are competitive. Luckily I am not that good anyway and it stays in my Gsync range nicely so it is all smooth as butter. I was able to get the same performance in balanced mode when I had reflections set to medium as they were by default. So If I did want some extra frames I would lower that backdown. There are I think 5 levels of reflections settings and it appears to be purely a roughness threshold rather than a samples per pixel change. Honestly, I can't imagine turning these settings back off as Global illumination alone makes the game so much more attractive. All my screenshots turned out as poo poo though so you will have to take my word for it.
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MaxxBot posted:There's definitely more people willing to shell out big $ for GPUs these days, the Titan X Pascal stayed in stock for five days, the 3090 I hope it stays in stock for five seconds. the 2080 Ti launch was... real real bad. took what, like 5 months to actually be regularly in stock? and then there were the production faults and stuff. and the fact that only Evga really made an MSRP card. none of that really means anything for 3090 but just reminiscing to lower peoples expectations!
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Sep 18, 2020 02:31
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Also the botters wouldnt have the cards so if theyre selling items they dont have possession of that would be amusing to have orders canceled
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Sep 18, 2020 02:37
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I am having a dumb day and all of this has made it even dumber.
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I’m curious if COVID may be impacting the production of these cards and to what extent
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MaxxBot posted:Yeah the Ventus card was in stock for maybe 30 seconds and most people had it deleted out of their cart while trying to check out, none of the other cards had any stock afaik. I was able to get an FE in my cart with nvidia twice and both times the backend site was timing out during checkout, possible there was low/no stock already. Multiple times today I caught some on newegg. Early on checkout failed as their site poo poo itself, and later in the day I just wasn't fast enough and it was always pulled at checkout being out of stock.
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Don't know how accurate it is but some folks have said NVIDIA paid AIBs to keep prices near MSRP for launch and AIB prices will be going up
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Sep 18, 2020 02:47
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Botters? Constrained supply? Order cancellations?
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my uncle at nvidia already has the 4090 and lets me play fortnite on it but im not allowed to show you
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Sep 18, 2020 02:54
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Shine posted:I am having a dumb day and all of this has made it even dumber. I found out my grandmother died today, and also my phone that was stolen about a year ago showed back up outside my yard connected to a different service and face locked, along with my car's service manuals. But at least I got a card I guess. Been a happy, then weird, then real sad day.
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Is there anything that happened in the last 36 pages or so that I missed aside from scalpers and supply issues?
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