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Bobby Deluxe posted:No Lives Matter is a bold stance to take on the controversy. I'd amend that to Rich Lives Matter, or more specifically Tory Lives Matter, but then Tories are barely human so No Lives Matter works too. e: in 1986 my gran died, but it wasn't due to being murdered by the Tories. Lungboy fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/PGMcNamara/status/1306643329292161024?s=19 Look they had their time and the economy needs to survive. It's standard conservative party policy, relax!
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We are already sending patients back to care homes who have been exposed to covid and need to isolate for 14 days, although most places are isolating anyone who has been in hospital even if they've not been exposed. As a side note, not having visitors in hospitals is so hard for patients and I never thought I'd miss them so much.
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It's easy to just look at 60,000 dead, and think that it is a terrible number, that more should come of it. But 600,000 people die every year in the UK. 660,000 dying instead is a bump - one that registers more in statistics than our feelings, especially when those who die are those most cloistered from society to begin with.
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I'm the guy who had his face blurred out because he realised the damage this photo was going to do to his future sex life
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Nothingtoseehere posted:It's easy to just look at 60,000 dead, and think that it is a terrible number, that more should come of it. But 600,000 people die every year in the UK. 660,000 dying instead is a bump - one that registers more in statistics than our feelings, especially when those who die are those most cloistered from society to begin with. This may be your opinion Dr Shipman but you're still guilty as gently caress.
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truly incredible stuff here from the economist https://twitter.com/DSORennie/status/1306622098333343745?s=20
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Nothingtoseehere posted:It's easy to just look at 60,000 dead, and think that it is a terrible number, that more should come of it. But 600,000 people die every year in the UK. 660,000 dying instead is a bump - one that registers more in statistics than our feelings, especially when those who die are those most cloistered from society to begin with. The only way I've gotten IRL people to feel it is comparing it to the blitz. That specific comparison seems to work.
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I, personally, would not want the Cubans to teach me to read, because I might read some propaganda.
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Vitamin P posted:The only way I've gotten IRL people to feel it is comparing it to the blitz. That specific comparison seems to work. Have you tried the 7/7 bombings I feel like "it's like the tube being bombed every hour of every day" might get somewhere
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Nothingtoseehere posted:It's easy to just look at 60,000 dead, and think that it is a terrible number, that more should come of it. But 600,000 people die every year in the UK. 660,000 dying instead is a bump - one that registers more in statistics than our feelings, especially when those who die are those most cloistered from society to begin with. Still quite a few dead though int it, and thats laid at the foot of incompetence. Be like if a plane crashed into central London and only 4000 people died, don't think people would be so chill about it. The worst is yet to come. Vitamin P posted:The only way I've gotten IRL people to feel it is comparing it to the blitz. That specific comparison seems to work. i liken it to asbestos or mining/milling injuries in that its something that could have been avoided but has long term effects beyond death. and if theyre too young for that just start talking about the critically acclaimed series Chernobyl and how foolish they seemed in retrospect, imagine if something like that was going on now and people just believed any old poo poo Jose posted:truly incredible stuff here from the economist what if you did politics for the good of people and they liked you for it, thats just unbritish
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OwlFancier posted:Internet is years ahead of the trend, as always.
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justcola posted:Still quite a few dead though int it, and thats laid at the foot of incompetence. Be like if a plane crashed into central London and only 4000 people died, don't think people would be so chill about it. The worst is yet to come. If you could get 4000 very small planes to crash into people very quietly though, apparently people would be quite chill about it. Which suggests that people find loud noises more upsetting than death.
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justcola posted:the critically acclaimed series Chernobyl and how foolish they seemed in retrospect
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On the subject of distressing loud noises I now have a new channel to go through so thankyou! E: lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5s3QSrRsQ4 OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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lol I'm just listening to that one.
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justcola posted:what if you did politics for the good of people and they liked you for it, thats just unbritish Do you actually think the CCP "does politics for the good of people"? Outmanouvering developed economies by being systemically dogshit, be it workers rights, environmental externalities, international law etc while also being a literal loving dictatorship isn't alleviated by some wanky thing that isn't even a welfare state developing. The CCP is noblesse oblige at best and frankly it isn't as good as that.
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Jose posted:truly incredible stuff here from the economist The economist: a good thing happened? Oh no! This will inevitably lead to bad outcomes Also the economist: a bad thing happened? Don't worry, this will inevitably lead to good outcomes
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Oh jesus I think I found the ultimate one and it's UK themed too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm08v69vG10 Vitamin P posted:Do you actually think the CCP "does politics for the good of people"? Yes, but the way the economist puts it, literally anything a government does that does anything beneifical for people is bad because it would might make people like the government. Like the entire concept of a beneficial transactional relationship is impossible, apparently? Which is a slightly odd position for a publication called "the economist" to take IMO.
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The Austrian Economist
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The Tories killing 60,000 people is obviously a bad thing - but it's important to understand why others don't realise what we do, and to think about how to convince others of the scale of the crime committed, rather than just rage at the world for not coming to the same understanding we do.
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Julio Cruz posted:I'm the guy who had his face blurred out because he realised the damage this photo was going to do to his future sex life 1. A face so horrifying digital cameras cannot accurately render it 2. It estimated the relative positioning of the woman's face, correctly guessed it was a oval office, and blurred it.
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I've been watching that YouTube Paris Hilton documentary and now I'm a big weepy weirdo and all of you should watch it too. Pure capitalism destroying lives poo poo. Epstien isn't an aberration.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:It's easy to just look at 60,000 dead, and think that it is a terrible number, that more should come of it. But 600,000 people die every year in the UK. 660,000 dying instead is a bump - one that registers more in statistics than our feelings, especially when those who die are those most cloistered from society to begin with. Agreed. My bet would be that to cause actual widespread unrest, there would have to be at least a million extra deaths.
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suck my woke dick posted:Agreed. My bet would be that to cause actual widespread unrest, there would have to be at least a million extra deaths. If there are food shortages and the insulin stops coming because of Brexit, by March the Tories are going to be pushing towards 500,000 excess deaths in 12 months and ~800,000 since they took office. That former figure can be expressed as 1.1 Second World Wars in the span of a year.
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Oh cool there's another electricity price hike from October, just in time for winter, and also coincidentally just enough (combined with a minuscule gas price reduction) to make the new more efficient heat pumps worse than gas again.
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Just reading an article in the Graun about cancelled Christmas and reading the comments below. Someone started talking about getting the brexapocalyse supplies of bog roll and beans. Response comment: "Can I just say, if you didn't buy the beans you wouldn't need the bog roll. Just saying."
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Guavanaut posted:I still find it wild that Chernobyl killed less in immediate industrial accidents, short term serious health conditions, and long term loss of QALY than a coal plant of the same capacity running normally for the same amount of time. And that 90% of the Exclusion Zone is less environmentally inimical to life than London Zone 1+2. I was a horribly morbid child who loved reading about industrial accidents, and whenever Chernobyl comes up, my favourite game is getting people to estimate how many people died as a direct result, then seeing how long they follow me saying "Less" each time.
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Vitamin P posted:Do you actually think the CCP "does politics for the good of people"? Sounded to me from that tweet that the CCP will be forcing people out of their homes and into cities where they can be used up in factories. It's all got very british industrial revolution undertones, reminds me of the british land reform when they took all the common land from the farmers and they then got ground to dust in hellish conditions in factories in cities.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:I was a horribly morbid child who loved reading about industrial accidents, and whenever Chernobyl comes up, my favourite game is getting people to estimate how many people died as a direct result, then seeing how long they follow me saying "Less" each time. I've got no patience for that kind of silliness. It's "fewer".
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I haven't done a great great deal of reading on Chernobyl or watched the TV show or anything but I would guess like... 5? Similarly for Fukushima. E: OK so looks like 31 for Chernobyl and maybe 1 guy directly attributable to Fukushima (lung cancer, 7 years later). WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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His Divine Shadow posted:Sounded to me from that tweet that the CCP will be forcing people out of their homes and into cities where they can be used up in factories. It's all got very british industrial revolution undertones, reminds me of the british land reform when they took all the common land from the farmers and they then got ground to dust in hellish conditions in factories in cities. I think that's a fairly accurate assessment. "Natural" migration from rural areas to the cities has dried up which has reduced the excess workforce and means that China has lost the advantage of relative labour cost in manufacturing. There is some sense that moving Uyghurs into concentration camps has been as much about creating a new source of cheap labour as it has been about ethnic cleansing, but it's still a relatively small population so now they are having to do something similar to rural Han Chinese.
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the PRC is still too rural; urbanization is to be expected. Natural migration has not ended - instead, the dynamic is that the social problems created by maintaining a large number of undocumented migrants have grown too intolerable, and measures to end it by forcing them back to the farms have not succeeded. Illegal rural-to-urban internal migrants in China number in the hundreds of millions; arguing that it has dried up is patent nonsense the main news is the acceptance that the hukou system has to end and the existing cities have to be resourced to explode in population and density, rather than telling the existing periphery areas to wait their turn. The choice is not whether to urbanise or not - urbanisation continues to be a "pull" factor, not "push" factor*, with people willing to take massive risks to work illicitly in larger cities - but where and when the urbanisation will happen first * the rural-enclosure narrative of British industrialization is probably also wrong, fwiw - even the pessimist case is reduced to arguing that the improvement in welfare through urbanisation is not as large rather than actually negative ronya fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/MPIainDS/status/1306626577082519554?s=19 https://twitter.com/ScottBentonMP/status/1306627419311427584?s=19 Tories pissing themselves in public. Again.
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Yeah if they mean to remove their internal migration restriction system (i.e. the hukou permit system) then if anything that's allowing natural migration to happen, rather than restricting it to avoid overwhelming urban infrastructure (if we're being charitable anyway).
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When the covid death toll reaches 68,000 (which it will in the not very distant future), that'll be the equivalent of one Brit in every thousand dying as a direct result of Tory incompetence/malevolence. Somehow, this will be shrugged off and excuses found by a significant portion of the remaining population. "Nobody could have planned for this"/"Some of them would have died anyway"/"But the economy!"/"How dare you try to politicise this tragedy!"/etc etc.
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Good morning, what's happening in Extremely Normal World today? Oh, ok then. 
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