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nlp seems very good at convincing people that their success is due to their innate intellectual superiority, so in a way you can say its a successful form of mind control
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90s Cringe Rock posted:how dare you besmirch the good name of nlp Scott Adams posted:Have you ever wondered why Dilbert has an uncommon first name, no last name, a nameless boss, and he works for a nameless company, making nameless products, while living in a nameless city? No.
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Sep 16, 2020 17:20
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if nlp was meaningfully effective, the FBI wouldn't have to rely on people with intellectual disabilities to victimize in their entrapment schemes
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Dr. Killjoy posted:The Neurolinguistic Programming stuff is more like a Scientology course than anything else, self help and influence of others by way of what once started out decades back as peculiar grammatical theory. Apart from some guys completely using it interchangeably with mind control, the theory is more like relying on facial and body language cues to adapt to anyone you meet and acclimate yourself accordingly on an individual level (or in groups) to best influence them body language reading fascinates me because there's buckets upon buckets of bad advice in the form of self-help literature (articles to help you get ahead at work / whip your subordinates better, how to get more dates, that might actually be all of them) and none of it is standardized so you have these armies of poorly-read middle managers who all have different ideas of what means what and they're all making decisions based on random misinformation that they're convinced is real it's like googling "how do i know if my roommate is bluffing in poker" and then expecting accurate information
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nut posted:if nlp was meaningfully effective, the FBI wouldn't have to rely on people with intellectual disabilities to victimize in their entrapment schemes lol yeah. same with other people into this stuff like scientologists as mentioned above, or like the temple of set who like to pretend they have advanced human capabilities like "i'm a third stage L ron, watch me levitate!" but it all boils down to frivolous lawsuits and harassing phone calls.
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Sep 16, 2020 17:54
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I mean with the Temple of Set you have Michael Aquino leading it and that dude is tied to all sorts of hosed up poo poo. From Epstein to McMartin Preschool to MKUltr to Franklin Credit Union.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:06
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my linguist partner loves to go ham on anyone who brings up NLP
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Normally like trueanon but the third ep of the Bush did 9/11 was pretty disappointing. Supporting a demolition hypothesis based on exactly two eye witnesses that thought there was an explosion in the basement of one of the towers (not sure why anyone would bother setting off explosives in the basement so close to the impact of the planes if they wanted to make it look like the planes did it), and then trying to say that jet fuel coming down multiple elevator shafts couldnt blow out the windows of the lobby/didn't happen when the Naudet brothers documentary literally has audio (but no video for obvious reason) of at least one person burning to death because they were covered in jet fuel. I haven't finished it yet but the next thing they brought up were people hearing "explosions" when the towers fell, like that means anything. Dunno, just feels poorly thought out and really credulous compared to the poo poo they usually do.
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it's probably a good idea to take things on trueanon with a grain of salt. they get a lot right and do good work but they also make plenty of mistakes and their theories arent always super substantiated
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I understand that, it’s just disheartening that they’re probably falling into the same trap that mysterious universe did like half a decade plus ago where they realized that it was lucrative to sprinkle in bullshit
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phasmid posted:lol yeah. same with other people into this stuff like scientologists as mentioned above, or like the temple of set who like to pretend they have advanced human capabilities like "i'm a third stage L ron, watch me levitate!" but it all boils down to frivolous lawsuits and harassing phone calls. Eimi posted:I mean with the Temple of Set you have Michael Aquino leading it and that dude is tied to all sorts of hosed up poo poo. From Epstein to McMartin Preschool to MKUltr to Franklin Credit Union. Have you considered that magic is real?
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WEH posted:I understand that, it’s just disheartening that they’re probably falling into the same trap that mysterious universe did like half a decade plus ago where they realized that it was lucrative to sprinkle in bullshit Yeah I was very disheartened when the conspiracy podcast didn't support the official story They've sold out to the makers of 9/11 so they can sell more 9/11s. Just follow the money, man.
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WEH posted:Normally like trueanon but the third ep of the Bush did 9/11 was pretty disappointing. Supporting a demolition hypothesis based on exactly two eye witnesses that thought there was an explosion in the basement of one of the towers (not sure why anyone would bother setting off explosives in the basement so close to the impact of the planes if they wanted to make it look like the planes did it), and then trying to say that jet fuel coming down multiple elevator shafts couldnt blow out the windows of the lobby/didn't happen when the Naudet brothers documentary literally has audio (but no video for obvious reason) of at least one person burning to death because they were covered in jet fuel. im no scientist but if the jet fuel that melted steel beams all fell into the basement how did it melt the steel beams? i do think the argument that the buildings should have been strong enough to take that kind of impact funny. it isnt hard to imagine that the builders took shortcuts that made them unsafe in such a specific and unique attack. especially with how mobbed up and corrupt everyone in nyc was when they were built. i think it was on an episode of trueanon(bevins ep maybe) where they talked about the plan for the attack being that the people would all be stuck in the building as it slowly burned up. making it similar to the grenfel towers situation. another goofy thought is that the cia didnt want it to be that bad so they let the towers burn for a bit before collapsing them.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Yeah I was very disheartened when the conspiracy podcast didn't support the official story No, like I said, it's just a sprinkling. The demolition angle is the least defensible part of the overall conspiracy and I think it's dumb that they supported it. ptkfvk posted:im no scientist but if the jet fuel that melted steel beams all fell into the basement how did it melt the steel beams? Not all of the jet fuel went down the elevator shaft(s), but apparently some significant amount did. I would not surprise me all if corners were cut in the construction, because apparently they were designed to withstand a 707 or something. I think? Obviously a different plane than what actually hit it. I don't see how any demolition theory could feasibly work unless they knew exactly where the planes were going to hit, and even then the collapse starts so close to the impact point on both buildings that I don't think any trigger mechanism or explosive could have survived the impact.
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didn’t one of the plans take out like 29 of 30 floors of a specific firm that worked out of one of the towers, I always thought that kind of accuracy sounds unrealistic
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WEH posted:No, like I said, it's just a sprinkling. The demolition angle is the least defensible part of the overall conspiracy and I think it's dumb that they supported it. I like that they’re the credulous ones while you’re telling us official narrative talking points from the famously trust worthy u.s. government.
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The_Rob posted:I like that they’re the credulous ones while you’re telling us official narrative talking points from the famously trust worthy u.s. government. I think we can be pretty sure that the government isn’t lying about planes flying into the World Trade Center buildings.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:43
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sometimes a massive aircraft slamming into a building is just a massive aircraft slamming into a building
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Sep 17, 2020 17:43
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One of the planes scored a direct hit on all cheney's financial records iirc
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My guesses were totally off but here is a partial list of WTC1 tenants with the impacted floors in red
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Sep 17, 2020 18:01
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we all know bush did it, you don't have to post fake proofs to try and convince us
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Look none of this gets into the REAL reason that 9/11 happened which is that it was a giant Thelemic ritual dedicated to Aleister Crowley, to open the mouth of the world by destroying the pillars of Hermes and bringing in the new world order. 
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Eimi posted:Look none of this gets into the REAL reason that 9/11 happened which is that it was a giant Thelemic ritual dedicated to Aleister Crowley, to open the mouth of the world by destroying the pillars of Hermes and bringing in the new world order. haha wow so kooky
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90s Cringe Rock posted:how dare you besmirch the good name of nlp lmao my full appreciation for dilburrito man's stupidity was waining, prolly because i forgot specific examples of his permanently unwanted boot lick idiocy shtick but this brought it all back  
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i am intrigued by all the weirdness around 9/11 even if i don't think it was controlled demolition or holographic planes. weirdness like this: https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
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i suppose the smiles and dancing was all because they knew 9/11 basically guaranteed US involvement in the middle east, and support for israel, forever.
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gh0stpinballa posted:i suppose the smiles and dancing was all because they knew 9/11 basically guaranteed US involvement in the middle east, and support for israel, forever. in Canada on 9/11, the Global network showed unrelated previously recorded footage of smiling Palestinian children waving tiny flags and holding up pizza to the camera and said "look at these arabs celebrating the attacks they just did" This is the network that released a special called "Jenin: Massacring Truth"  A more cynical person might think there was some kind of narrative they were trying to create here 
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Lots of people who aren’t scientists nonetheless understand the process of igniting, ventilating and kindling a fire to make a hot fire
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Listened to a Kantbot podcast recently and here's who he thinks killed JFK, as in literally pulled the trigger (excerpts from Triangle of Death by Bradley O'Leary)   For reference, the OAS (Organisation Armée Secrète) was a right wing paramilitary terrorist group that fought against France's decision to liberate Algiers and then they tried to kill de Gaulle. Also, Alderson is a friend of Souetre's, they were both security officers in the same garrison in France (where US military also were stationed) before Souetre defected and Alderson moved to civilian life (ultimately as a dentist in Texas).
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https://twitter.com/rapplerdotcom/status/1308740841486405633?s=19 Weird how this guy keeps getting "poisoned" and then somehow keeps making full recoveries
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/rapplerdotcom/status/1308740841486405633?s=19 Yeah, fsb isn't this bad at assassination
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the headline, as usual, is kind of misleading here. the article discusses how currently he apparently is having nerve damage in his fingers and needs physical therapy. we see this in COVID patients, too, where people are classified as making “full recovery” despite no longer being able to smell or suffering from permanent lung damage. I dunno anything about this guys politics but I think the person who wrote that article is just kind of a moron.
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Sep 23, 2020 14:55
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Novichok seems more like a deadly-ish nerve agent at this point
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Atrocious Joe posted:Novichok seems more like a deadly-ish nerve agent at this point Eventually the average Russian opposition leader will just have built up a tolerance to it.
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https://twitter.com/freecialis2/status/1309575612676419585?s=20
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Sep 25, 2020 21:42
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That poor, poor person.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/rapplerdotcom/status/1308740841486405633?s=19 Continuity RCP posted:Yeah, fsb isn't this bad at assassination  at these posters
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I'm the quotation apostrophes around "possible."
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Sep 25, 2020 22:33
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Does rigging the 2020 election count as a "conspiracy theory" yet? Because I think in 6 weeks, poo poo's about to get buck wild no matter who wins this poo poo show.
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