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Disinheriting multiple kids every generation tanks your renown bad and really isn't necessary outside of emergencies. It's best to just satisfy their inheritance by giving them inferior titles you conquer or revoke or if they will become independent on succession let them and then just conquer them. The latter is easy since you have claims already and your siblings will have no treasury and no men at arms. Forcing your unwanted heirs into knighthood is also a good way to get rid of them. Another nice trick is that if you have a faith with temporal clerical appointment then you can basically disinherit one heir for free each succession.
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One thing that irritates me is that it makes the player heir your legal heir in elective succession. I know it's easy enough to switch characters (if you have to.... I haven't yet), but, unless that character is unlanded, I would like my character to switch to the character I vote for, even if they lose.
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Sep 20, 2020 14:33
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Skypie posted:Incidentally, is there a way to force vassals to convert to your culture? I really wanted to do the "Reclaim Britannia" thing but since the empire has since integrated a bunch of Scandinavia, a few of my powerful vassals aren't part of the right culture groups to trigger it. I mean, I guess I could just try to revoke the titles when I'm ready but that might cause headaches apparently this was not a problem. I was able to do the reclamation regardless so who knows.
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Gobblecoque posted:Disinheriting multiple kids every generation tanks your renown bad and really isn't necessary outside of emergencies. It's best to just satisfy their inheritance by giving them inferior titles you conquer or revoke or if they will become independent on succession let them and then just conquer them. The latter is easy since you have claims already and your siblings will have no treasury and no men at arms. Forcing your unwanted heirs into knighthood is also a good way to get rid of them. You don't have to disinherit every generation, but it's nice to speed up getting that strengthen blood decision by skipping bad heirs and it's handy to keep your important counties in your control if expansion isn't really an option. I haven't had a non-genius ruler since 910 thanks to it. Plus honestly Renown isn't that hard to come by as time goes on.  I am convinced my computer might explode if I ever open the dynasty tree, so trade offs I guess TGLT fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Sep 20, 2020 14:46
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Quick question about Confederation Partition succession. If I own 3 duchy titles (let's assume they just comprise their de jure counties) and there's only two people in my line of succession, what happens to the third duchy title? Does the "handing out" of titles just cycle back to the first heir and he gets it, or does that third duchy title get destroyed and split up into counties and/or baronies between the two heirs to ensure an even distribution?
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Sep 20, 2020 15:08
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TGLT posted:You don't have to disinherit every generation, but it's nice to speed up getting Game will crash if you have more than ~500 iirc
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Sep 20, 2020 15:18
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Retroblique posted:Quick question about Confederation Partition succession. If I own 3 duchy titles (let's assume they just comprise their de jure counties) and there's only two people in my line of succession, what happens to the third duchy title? Does the "handing out" of titles just cycle back to the first heir and he gets it, or does that third duchy title get destroyed and split up into counties and/or baronies between the two heirs to ensure an even distribution? In my experience, your second in line often gets two duchies for no discernible reason, and the counties are semi-randomly allocated so as to gently caress over your heir as much as possible. Someone on reddit said that titles are actually handed out in the order you obtained them, which certainly sounds like the dumbass kind of thing an unpatched Paradox release would do. e: here's another fun one. My homosexual king confronts his wife about the father of his child, and she admits to adultery and names the real father. A few days later the 'suspected of cheating' event pops up and apparently I have no evidence that she is unfaithful and she denies it and loses opinion of me. ??? Then she goes and pops out a second son at age 43 (??? does fertility stay at half peak even to 45?) and apparently he still suspects nothing. Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Sep 20, 2020 15:20
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 What's going on here? Realm screen says HRE is primogeniture, title screen says it's elective.
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Sep 20, 2020 15:32
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Arglebargle III posted:
There's a specific title succession law attached to the Holy Roman Empire title, which overrides the general succession law of the realm. This is what happens if you use the Scandinavian Elective decision, for example. IIRC the HRE starts that way and has special prerequisites for removing it, on top of the normal prestige cost.
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Sep 20, 2020 15:44
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TGLT posted:You don't have to disinherit every generation, but it's nice to speed up getting that strengthen blood decision by skipping bad heirs and it's handy to keep your important counties in your control if expansion isn't really an option. I haven't had a non-genius ruler since 910 thanks to it. Plus honestly Renown isn't that hard to come by as time goes on. The dumb thing about Renown is that you only get it for independent rulers. So your dynasty is more renowned if members are duke-level vassals in half a dozen different kingdoms than it is if you become emperor of the entire world. E: In my current Bastard Bill game my aging emperor saw his mediocre son and his even more mediocre grandson murdered within the space of a year by persons unknown, leaving his 8 year old great-grandson as heir.  Someone had a cunning plan, alright. It's been a weird game all around. Baldrick is now my fourth ruler in the game, and so far everyone has outlived their own eldest son. Jedit fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Sep 20, 2020 16:02
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I am King and Duke of Bohemia and my heir is Duke of Julich. Would it be better to create the Kingdom of Germany and rule as an Emperor + Double King within the HRE or keep the one kingdom? How does that affect taxes and vassal opinions?
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Sep 20, 2020 16:31
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BigRoman posted:Is he a different religion than you? It could be a holy order. No, same religion. I thought if it was mercenaries you'd see the name of their company? I feel like I've spotted mercenary companies on the map before and this just says "1st army of something or other" and "2nd army of something or other".
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Sep 20, 2020 16:54
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Skypie posted:Incidentally, is there a way to force vassals to convert to your culture? I really wanted to do the "Reclaim Britannia" thing but since the empire has since integrated a bunch of Scandinavia, a few of my powerful vassals aren't part of the right culture groups to trigger it. I mean, I guess I could just try to revoke the titles when I'm ready but that might cause headaches I had posted about this earlier. Your options are: -murder your way to someone with culture -take in their young heirs and convert culture and wait until they (hopefully) take over -revoke titles, take the event then distribute titles again
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Sep 20, 2020 16:56
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That true ruler perk is pretty great. Can pretty much vassalise any same religion Duke that borders you if you're an emperor. Don't even need de Jure title or same culture group.
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Sep 20, 2020 17:03
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All of you who play with genius characters generation after generation, isn't that boring? I kinda like the unpredictability of a new heir, stirs things up. Sure, you might lose some territory and it can be challenging to survive, but that's where the fun is imo.
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Sep 20, 2020 17:38
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How do I best destabilize a neighboring empire? It’s 1200 and Byzantium is gigantic. I killed like 4 emperors in a row and it hasn’t burst into a lot of tiny pieces like I did with kingdoms.
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Sep 20, 2020 17:41
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I hope they fix the female ruler matrilineal bug soon. Just experienced this excitement over about 30 years in game: 1. As the emperor of Bengal I subjugated my enormous (but weak) neighbor, the King of Rajasthan. He has 3 kingdom titles and no sons. 2. I convince him to like me just long enough to marry my son and heir off to his 2nd daughter. 3. He goes hunting with me and gets injured. I obviously decline to save him and he dies from his wounds shortly after. 4. My heirs sisters in law meet untimely ends. 5. He and his gay wife only have daughters. 6. I take over as him - his daughter is in line to inherit almost everything. She’s already a Queen, and while I wasn’t paying attention - she patrilineally marries a random albino dude at the age of like 11. When I go to break the betrothal I’m told she’s already been a ruler for 10 years. 7. I disinherit her and have to kill another child, now my entire empire is going to my two toddler daughters. 8. I die and am now facing a massive uprising of about 9 kings and queens as a 10 year old Burmese girl. I start executing prisoners and that shuts them up. 9. My uncle assassinates my little sister for no reason and I get all of our titles back.
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Sep 20, 2020 17:46
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shut up blegum posted:All of you who play with genius characters generation after generation, isn't that boring? I kinda like the unpredictability of a new heir, stirs things up. Sure, you might lose some territory and it can be challenging to survive, but that's where the fun is imo. Sometimes you just want to paint a map. Also I pretty much always start as a count or tiny duke, and being a genius doesn't change the material reality of having a quarter the troops of your two neighbors. It's a leg up but it's not as big as you might think.
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Sep 20, 2020 17:47
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Popoto posted:Two questions: 1. It's in events/religion_events/fervor_events.txt right at the top. 2. In events/councillor_task_events/chancellor_task_events.txt the positive events (chancellor_task.2101, 2102, 2103) have as part of the trigger requirement "diplomacy < high_skill_rating" so that actually good characters will never have them fire. Obviously easily fixable by just overriding the task with the trigger conditional flipped.
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I've always wanted to play CK but the ui has been a nightmare. CK3 has a fully redesigned ui with scaling, and it is good. I can read the text, see the buttons  Finally! I bought the game. They haven't patched the game yet but maybe next week...
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Sep 20, 2020 18:01
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Jedit posted:The dumb thing about Renown is that you only get it for independent rulers. So your dynasty is more renowned if members are duke-level vassals in half a dozen different kingdoms than it is if you become emperor of the entire world. Yeah, I had various family members running the empires for a while till I maxed out renown Best thing is as dynasty head it's only 150 renown to claim any dynasty members titles, including empire titles. Made it easy to gather everything back up
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Jedit posted:The dumb thing about Renown is that you only get it for independent rulers. So your dynasty is more renowned if members are duke-level vassals in half a dozen different kingdoms than it is if you become emperor of the entire world. What’s up with your prowess icon being different?
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Sep 20, 2020 18:31
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Is pressing Kingdom claims of a courtier bugged / not working? I did the find claimants event, I got someone with claim on Kingdom West Francia and a handful of counties in West Francia. I can click on the declare war option for the current King of Francia. In the declare war screen I can pick the claimant's claims but the warning tooltip says there *are* no claims. I'm an emperor, if that matters. I paid this 6yo 350 gold to come chill out in my court wth. 
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Sep 20, 2020 18:44
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For AI Matrilineal Marriages, see this mod. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2228887124 It basically brute forces the issue with an AI decision that auto-divorces and remarries the same person except set to matrilineal. It also resets existing children to the female's house/culture/faith. Female rulers will take that decision based on their religion's gender equality. For male & equal dominated, a landed female ruler will take if they are married to a husband whose title rank is lower (or has less prestige and equal rank) Female dominated always take the decision. Haven't yet tested it though. This probably does allow female rulers to effectively matri-marry higher than they "should" get if the marriage evaluation system was working in the first place. lurksion fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Jedit posted:The dumb thing about Renown is that you only get it for independent rulers. So your dynasty is more renowned if members are duke-level vassals in half a dozen different kingdoms than it is if you become emperor of the entire world. Eh, the best way to get reknown is just a lot of people in your house, it will way out scale even making them independent emperors. So if you own a kingdom where everyone who own's a duchy is your family and you have concubines/polygamy, you will soon way out reknown anyone just by sheer number of members of your family.
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Sep 20, 2020 18:52
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Glass of Milk posted:I had posted about this earlier. Your options are: I dunno if it ended up not mattering because I was able to do the event as soon as I had the final county despite having two powerful vassals being Norse. Unless they were not vassals of my ruler, which doesn't make sense but whatever, I got it done. No achievement tho cuz I'm playing on easy mode to get the feel of the game lol
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Sep 20, 2020 18:53
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buglord posted:How do I best destabilize a neighboring empire? It’s 1200 and Byzantium is gigantic. I killed like 4 emperors in a row and it hasn’t burst into a lot of tiny pieces like I did with kingdoms. the byzantines are cheating fuckos who start with primogeniture in the tribal era. it's impossible to intentionally destabilize them without swearing fealty and working your way up. They can still destabilize through murder causing short reign penalties and levy loss, but you basically just have to get lucky with khazaria and the abbasids keeping their poo poo together to do the work for you.
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Sep 20, 2020 18:59
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Trevor Hale posted:What’s up with your prowess icon being different? I hadn't noticed, but at a guess I'd say it's because my dynasty has a Warfare legacy.
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Sep 20, 2020 19:04
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RED TEXT BIG GUN posted:Is pressing Kingdom claims of a courtier bugged / not working? I did the find claimants event, I got someone with claim on Kingdom West Francia and a handful of counties in West Francia. I can click on the declare war option for the current King of Francia. In the declare war screen I can pick the claimant's claims but the warning tooltip says there *are* no claims. I'm an emperor, if that matters. It’s because she’s a girl. The declare war screen will still display all potential claimants as an option but you generally can’t declare for a female claimant against a male title-holder.
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Sep 20, 2020 19:06
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RED TEXT BIG GUN posted:Is pressing Kingdom claims of a courtier bugged / not working? I did the find claimants event, I got someone with claim on Kingdom West Francia and a handful of counties in West Francia. I can click on the declare war option for the current King of Francia. In the declare war screen I can pick the claimant's claims but the warning tooltip says there *are* no claims. I'm an emperor, if that matters. For titles with male preference or male only, it will only let you push a woman's claim against another woman or a child.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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wizardofloneliness posted:It’s because she’s a girl. The declare war screen will still display all potential claimants as an option but you generally can’t declare for a female claimant against a male title-holder. There is a way around this. If your religion has gender equality or female dominance, you can convert the girl to your faith and then press her - now legitimate - claims. edit: I just did this earlier today, in fact, to grab a nice, big chunk of India.
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Sep 20, 2020 19:19
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PittTheElder posted:For titles with male preference or male only, it will only let you push a woman's claim against another woman or a child. I don't think it's actually related to the succession law. It's related to religious doctrine. Women's claims can only be pressed against children, other women, or incapable rulers when following a male-dominated religion.
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My heir was not set to inherit my emperor title. Some non-dynastic grandson of mine who was born to my daughter, the wife of the Doge of Venice, was the heir. It was important to right this wrong, plus the little prick lived in Italy and never visited. My emperor was 70, though, in poor health. Fortunately, I was able to plot and kill my grandson AND his sister. Eliminating the entire family line? Well, we do what we must to protect the inheritance. The sister, though, had been pregnant, and before she died she had her son. Cute kid, but he had to die, too. As the plot progressed, I said a prayer every month my emperor kept on going. I switched him into learning and got a minor health boost- anything to keep him alive just long enough to get rid of that pesky family line. The day for the plot's fruition finally came, and somehow, the newborn babe survived being forgotten in the woods. drat. So I imprisoned and executed him and let my drunk son get the title instead.
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Donnerberg posted:So, I got the pure blood trait without even trying, but it was on a random cousin outside of my court, and she was taken a foreign jail before I could get hold of her. Unfortunately she died before I could figure out a way to free her. Paying the ransom wasn't available to me.
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I expect building a castle in my empty district will keep under the county title, but is that the best choice for a duke level character? I kept seeing wonky modifiers about not being the right holder for the city under me, so I dunno if it's not converting people into republican vassals or what, and I'm not sure if more levies or more future gold might be a better choice when I'm struggling to not get capped by my idiot lieges superdukes before I make a move on them
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Dang, I had like 200 hours in CK2 but had never actually played the dynastic part of it (it's as stupid as it sounds), this is actually really fun. I just killed my half brother and I feel awful.
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You really only want levies until you're at a level where other dukes won't try to gently caress with though, Barracks buildings are great and we'll give you those. Then everything after that should be money basically.
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Synnr posted:I expect building a castle in my empty district will keep under the county title, but is that the best choice for a duke level character? The more baronies you hold in a county, the better IMO, since the councillor jobs only work by the county and most castle buildings only grant their bonuses on a county-level. Also, revoking baronies costs no tyranny. It's very good to have two duchies, yes, but in the sense that you want access to that second duchy building slot; it's more important to have better counties than duchies, and that means picking the counties with the most holding slots.
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You don't hold any baronies in a county besides the capital, even a castle will be given to a minor noble who will take off 90%-60% like a count would from their county, no?
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