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Seven Hundred Bee posted:also these videos are amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ZaSh81eI8 Eagle Screech! It's also hilariously ironic how Amazon bankrolled both The Expanse and this show.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:07
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I do love how the plane incident proves Homelander is definitely dumber than Superman, because Superman could've lasered the engines off and just *carried* the plane to safety. That does pose another question - how much can Homelander bench? Airplane wings are full of fuel, if a superhero tried to laser off the wings or the engines, the whole thing would explode.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:12
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The longerons are designed to take the entire force of the fully-fueled and loaded airplane in the event of a landing after rotation where they can't/couldn't budget time to dump fuel. This isn't a 'plane on a treadmill' problem. He could've guided the plane to safety. He just didn't want a plane load of people telling stories about how Homelander almost got them all killed (and *did* kill a little boy in the comic). I will admit I am wrong about the plane integrity and defer to you.  seaborgium posted:Comics spoilers, so handled way differently and in a different context HL does the same thing to the cockpit of the plane they're trying to save. HL tries to "push" the plane to be more level, and instead just cuts the back half of the plane off because he went in too fast and just tried to punch it straight. Also manages to kill another supe doing it, which is why A-Train is in the Seven. Interesting. I really like the version the show because it perfectly exemplifies how little he cares, but it would have been neat to see that one too.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:14
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I think it's fair to take what the show tells us on its face and also to assume that Homelander knows how his powers work. He lasers the controls by accident. He thinks about it for a moment and realises he can't save the plane. Okay, all the passengers are now collateral damage. He's fine with that.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:20
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Bioshuffle posted:The scene with the crowd shows that he is drat well capable of controlling just how far out the laser shoots. Yeah Homelander would never accidentally laser too far and hit something behind his intended target he didn't mean to. Like imagine if he lasered some supe terrorist or something and hit a civillian behind them by accident? Unimaginable.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:22
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:also these videos are amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ZaSh81eI8 Black Noir killing it at the end. Also fitting to have Stormfront of all supes rattle off all the Palatir type surveillance services offered by Vought.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:22
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I'm pretty sure Surgeons in real life occasionally drop their phone or knock over a cup of coffee Sometimes people just do an oopsy
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Sep 21, 2020 23:23
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He seems the type used to everything coming easy and gives up playing hero the moment it gets hard.Bioshuffle posted:The scene with the crowd shows that he is drat well capable of controlling just how far out the laser shoots. I just rewatched the scene in the airplane, and it does look like he destroyed the controls on purpose. It doesn't make sense for a bullet proof demigod to react the way he did. He could have just as easily laughed off the attack and punched his head off. Edit: the whole point of the scene is it’s the first time they try to do real hero stuff without it being scripted and they gently caress it up because they’re amateurs with super powers. Yeah he could have punched instead but he likes deleting people with his eye lasers and does it all the time. yook fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Sep 21, 2020 |
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Sep 21, 2020 23:30
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Isaacs Alter Ego posted:Yeah Homelander would never accidentally laser too far and hit something behind his intended target he didn't mean to. Like imagine if he lasered some supe terrorist or something and hit a civillian behind them by accident? Unimaginable. Technically he hit a civilian behind a stretched out animal skin behind a terrorist HL just didn't x-ray to see if there was anyone behind the "wall" first
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Sep 21, 2020 23:31
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That overhead shot of HL lasering the protesters is loving horrifying, fuuuuuuuuuuuuck. My rough prediction is that A-Train is going to be pretty pivotal in taking down Stormfront somehow. He instantly knew she was a racist POS in their like, 30 second scene together? I have a feeling he's gonna team up with Starlight, and maybe Maeve? I dunno, I think Maeve's plan is gonna crash and burn to give Starlight/A-Train a mental image of the stakes that they're playing with trying to take down HL.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:39
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Azhais posted:Technically he hit a civilian behind a stretched out animal skin behind a terrorist Sure but the point is we have literally two scenes now of Homelander lasering and hitting some poo poo he didn't really mean to, it's kind of ridiculous for someone to make the argument that he has Super Laser Distance Control or whatever.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:40
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Johnny Truant posted:My rough prediction is that A-Train is going to be pretty pivotal in taking down Stormfront somehow. He instantly knew she was a racist POS in their like, 30 second scene together? I have a feeling he's gonna team up with Starlight, and maybe Maeve? I dunno, I think Maeve's plan is gonna crash and burn to give Starlight/A-Train a mental image of the stakes that they're playing with trying to take down HL. Here's that scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otaPjLXdfw Do we know how many seasons this show is going to go on for? Are they just going to go as long as they can?
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Sep 21, 2020 23:46
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I haven't seen any word on their planned number of seasons. But I expect like most shows it'll be delayed by a year or more, so probably Season 3 in late 2022.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:49
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Homelander absolutely has control over his laser. Need proof? Here's the clip of him killing Stillwell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxsb5PMQHiY If you pay close attention, the laser doesn't shoot out from behind her head because he is able to control how far it shoots. Also pay attention when he kills the terrorists in the airplane. He's able to precisely control how far the laser shoots out, to the point where it doesn't penetrate through the terrorist's body. 
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Sep 21, 2020 23:50
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I'm just wondering how many seasons because that might allow us to speculate more on when a big confrontation might occur. I mean, is there a show if they kill off HL and SF? Or if HL/SF go mask off and rip the arms/legs off everyone?
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Sep 21, 2020 23:51
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Stuff to look forward to next episode: Possible leak of the airplane footage, which Maeve will weaponize against Homelander and /or Mr Edgar. Mental hospital full of supe teens getting set loose. Distraught Stormfront telling (I'm assuming) Homelander "no more lies"
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Sep 21, 2020 23:53
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spacetoaster posted:I'm just wondering how many seasons because that might allow us to speculate more on when a big confrontation might occur. I don't think you can do this show without Homelander. He's the show. I suspect 4 seasons* and he dies in the penultimate episode. Stormfront feels like a perfect Seasonal Baddie so I absolutely expect her to eat it either this year or in Season 3* *The standard disclaimer that the US is about to break into Civil War which may affect media
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Sep 21, 2020 23:53
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I just considered something, comics/teaser spoiler in the conics the G-men (X-men) are a bunch of orphans who are all raised and molested by the professor x analog. Now I doubt the show is going with that for obvious reasons so I’m wondering if this supe teen mental institution mansion is leading to the shows version of the G men
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Sep 21, 2020 23:58
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Bioshuffle posted:Homelander absolutely has control over his laser. Need proof? Here's the clip of him killing Stillwell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxsb5PMQHiY So yes, when he concentrates, aka "gives a poo poo", he can control it. When he's flying in being a grandiose prick - not so much.
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Sep 22, 2020 00:01
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He can control the intensity of his laser eyes, not make the beams stop at some arbitrary point. If he's trying to be precise we've seen him warm milk, melt a gun, etc. The simple explanation for the cockpit is he reacted out of instinct when he saw the pilot get shot, and he's just sloppy at what he does because he's had no training. The lifting the plane thing, he implies he can't actually push against anything when he's flying because there's nothing to push off against, which does kinda make sense. It's not like he can lift the plane with his super-strength, he'd be relying on whatever mysterious force he uses to fly which might only generate enough power to lift his own body. I don't think he intentionally let anybody die. He definitely didn't in the comic, the scene is meant to show that superpowers are impractical for most things and without training the supes just blunder into situations and make them worse.
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Sep 22, 2020 00:42
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Guys Superman did it!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tU0vG9UJ2I
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Sep 22, 2020 00:48
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So did Supergirl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh8MYFadTmQ&t=45s We're talking about comic book magic so it's just fun.
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Sep 22, 2020 00:51
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wasn't one of supermans powers back in the day being able to generate a psychic field around whatever he's holding so it doesn't' crumble around where he's holding it. So he could like pick up a building and it wouldn't just start falling apart around his hands.
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Sep 22, 2020 00:55
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Romes128 posted:wasn't one of supermans powers back in the day being able to generate a psychic field around whatever he's holding so it doesn't' crumble around where he's holding it. Hell, superman could literally reverse time by flying around the planet. If you guys were Vought. And you knew you had a psychotic ticking time bomb like Homelander. How would you mitigate his threat? Right now it looks like the corporation is just trying to control him using psychological methods, but I wonder what else they might have? Personally I'd have a special forces team of B level supes on standby, and if HL ever went off the deep end, each of those supes gets a shot of compound V right into their veins and they try to stop him. spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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Sep 22, 2020 00:56
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Romes128 posted:wasn't one of supermans powers back in the day being able to generate a psychic field around whatever he's holding so it doesn't' crumble around where he's holding it. That was someone's attempt to justify why he can do things like that, yeah.
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Sep 22, 2020 00:57
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spacetoaster posted:Hell, superman could literally reverse time by flying around the planet. I kinda want to see him shoot up and get high on V himself.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:05
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pages of arguing about the potential structural integrity of an airliner and not one question about how butcher and the baby weren't turned into paste when homelander grabbed them and instantly accelerated them to hypersonic speeds
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Sep 22, 2020 01:07
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There's a comic called "Irredeemable" where that world's Superman analog just decides one day to stop helping humanity and start doing whatever the gently caress he wants...which means killing a lot of people. Eventually a world-ending threat comes along and the Lex Luthor of that world convinces the Superman analog that he's been woefully underutilizing his abilities before then, because his abilities were never rooted in the physical, but rather in the theoretical and psionic, it's just that he was never given a reason to hone them past the usual superhero poo poo of hitting things really hard. Just to stop from sounding like I know this by heart, here's the snippet from Wikipedia: "Modeus hypothesizes that if the Plutonian is made aware of his true abilities he would be able to alter probability, see through time and reverse entropy, concluding "and that's just if he moves from Kindergarten to grade school." After meeting with his Eleos creators, Plutonian's powers are expanded. He gains a sixth digit on each hand like the Eleos, and learns how to alter his density to become intangible, remotely ignite explosions by manipulating quantum matter, negate inertia to the point he can stop Earth's moon rotating, view an individual's history by using their mind as a focal point to see through time, and to detect raw materials within a planet and draw them to the surface by will." Superman Prime can do similar "OKAY, SURE, WHATEVER" poo poo. Wheeee posted:pages of arguing about the potential structural integrity of an airliner and not one question about how butcher and the baby weren't turned into paste when homelander grabbed them and instantly accelerated them to hypersonic speeds He pulled a Quicksilver and just held them at the back of their necks! Duh.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:08
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Speaking of, Homelander saving Stillwell's kid was honestly a pulled punch I wasn't expecting.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:09
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Wheeee posted:pages of arguing about the potential structural integrity of an airliner and not one question about how butcher and the baby weren't turned into paste when homelander grabbed them and instantly accelerated them to hypersonic speeds Yeah. The acceleration to the speed necessary to escape an already exploding bomb would probably do more damage to your body than the bomb.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:09
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Owlbear Camus posted:Speaking of, Homelander saving Stillwell's kid was honestly a pulled punch I wasn't expecting. Given how much he hated/resented that kid, forcing her/him to grow up without their mother (like he did) seems like revenge to me.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:10
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I had assumed Stillwells kid was a supe and Homelander didn't save them, they were just launched somewhere by the blast and survived by having super durability or whatever. She has the connections to get a premium dose of V and it doesn't seem in character for Homelander to give a gently caress about them. But theres also no real evidence for that to be the case, I guess, but it seems weird they'd mention their survival at all if it didn't come up again.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:24
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Isaacs Alter Ego posted:I had assumed Stillwells kid was a supe and Homelander didn't save them, they were just launched somewhere by the blast and survived by having super durability or whatever. She has the connections to get a premium dose of V and it doesn't seem in character for Homelander to give a gently caress about them. But theres also no real evidence for that to be the case, I guess, but it seems weird they'd mention their survival at all if it didn't come up again. Having one of your main characters murder a baby isn’t a good look.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:29
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Romes128 posted:Having one of your main characters murder a baby isn’t a good look. Butcher literally tried to by detonating the bomb. And he's the protagonist.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:31
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Yeah Butcher hitting the detonator to mildly inconvenience Homelander at the cost of that baby's life is fukkin' diabolical. Also the America's Most Wanted reenactment was just chef's kiss. OI SHUT UP YA STUPID BIRD, OR I'LL BOLLACKS YA!
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Sep 22, 2020 01:33
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jabby posted:Butcher literally tried to by detonating the bomb. Yea but he expected to die. If he survived and the baby died everyone would be like wtf butcher
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Sep 22, 2020 01:37
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I feel like it's pretty well established that he couldn't lift the plane. He says there's nothing to push off, and it seems internally consistent with his powers because when Kimiko's brother hits him with the train he gets dropped/swatted out of the air loving *instantly*. He still could have saved a few people, but didn't for the other reasons already noted.
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Sep 22, 2020 03:13
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Shame that we've seen him fly. It would be hilarious if his super power was just ludicrously accurate long range jumping.
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Sep 22, 2020 05:07
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MarcusSA posted:I'm triggered if that actually happens. Video it, plastic bag it, stuff it in the (inflatable) seat cushion. If someone had the foresight to really want to gently caress Homelander over in revenge for their impending death.
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Owlbear Camus posted:I think this is the show trying to show us that it's "smarter" than normal superhero comics by dealing in "real physics": even if he can exert an arbitrary amount of force while flying, where indeed can he apply it on what's ultimately a giant, flimsy, bolted together aluminum tube safely? You push it, it generates lift. Thank you, I'm a genius.
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