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Unkempt posted:What happened to the other six embryos? I think I missed that somehow. IIRC there is a scene where (young) Campion (before the Arc arrival) is found by Mother with the embryo briefcase open and the embryos dead. Mother loses her poo poo at him and he takes responsibility. Later, Mother finds out it was 2 of the other children who opened the embryo pods to play with them unknowingly, and that Campion told the other children after he found out / after Mother told him that it was just snowballs in order to save their feelings, even though Campion knew they were babies. Mother then takes Campion to the hole and throws the dead embryos in, which will probably have significance later in the plot. I think the scene also demonstrated Mother gaining respect or admiration (?) for Campion. Sally Sprodgkin fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:I do think this show is attracting a lot of people yelling plot hole because it's so utterly uninterested in explaining a lot of its mechanics. but serious question why did he capture a necromancer and not just use two service androids? am I forgetting a line of dialogue? like "oh well resources were sparse and this was the first thing I could get my hands on"? Zmej fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Zmej posted:yea. I also find some stuff kinda hilarious if you ask a few questions that I don't think writers did. like, this guy who programmed mother and sent a spaceship to a not-very-well-known planets as the last hope of humanity, had seemingly no plans or equipment included to make sure native vegetation doesn't kill the kids. "hey man we're just winging it" but we see him painstakingly reprogramming Mother for weeks (?). I just find it funny that humanity's last hope was ruined because no asked if it was safe to feed the spicy potatoes to the kids lol im guessing he used a necromancer because it would be the best equipped to keep the kids safe, and an ironic choice if it ends up keeping them safe from the mithraic. but its also possible that he had no particular reason, and the writers idea was “what if kids born on an alien world after the fall of mankind are raised by an ultimate human-destroying weapon” hence the title of the show & the scene where she tells the three little pigs story
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veni veni veni posted:It's like people are watching Zardoz and trying to criticize it like Apollo 13. This is a good comparison. Unfortunately I think a lot of sci fi watchers are sorta intellectually insecure, and used to game-like decision making, so you get all these game-theory style judgments of character decisions and comprehensibility of plot instead of taking in the fantastical and imaginative world building. "Why would they call it a 'necromancer' if it doesnt literally raise dead bodies to do its bidding???"
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It was very convenient the atheist lander fell into a hole and needed parachute to stop but the mithraic landers could all soft under under power. The atheist lander probably a lot more luggage and a space microwave.
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Shaocaholica posted:It was very convenient the atheist lander fell into a hole and needed parachute to stop but the mithraic landers could all soft under under power. They've implied that the Mithraics were well off, and Campion Sr was hiding out in an evacuated Mithraic base, scavenging for parts. He was never going to have access to the best tech.
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can I just express how much I loving love the scoring of this show? absolutely amazing. these are all credits/intro tracks and they're just so well constructed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs4yX4V7NQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0chs47raqA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GjvX1Gk-HU
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Zmej posted:but serious question why did he capture a necromancer and not just use two service androids? am I forgetting a line of dialogue? like "oh well resources were sparse and this was the first thing I could get my hands on"? For a brilliant programmer, weaponizing a service android for defense of a settlement seems like more work than reprogramming a deathbot. Having worked in tech with brilliant idiots who make bizarre decisions when not being herded by a project manager... Seems reasonable that he'd screw up the ways he did. Dude was deprived of oxygen, in an active warzone, and the product of a generation we can assume doesn't know what optimal, normal human conditions are for parenting.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I do think this show is attracting a lot of people yelling plot hole because it's so utterly uninterested in explaining a lot of its mechanics. I'm raising one child in a pandemic, I can't imagine raising six in a mostly inhospitable wasteland and having time to do much of anything else, even if I was a robot that didn't need to sleep (which I'm doing a pretty good imitation of these days). It's amazing how good a story this show tells with just some huts in a desert and some woods. The constant visions and voices and parkouring strangers are taking me out of the story a bit, and I hope they're explained. My theory of the visions is something like the crashed ark has its holodeck-type tech "leaking" into the world. It would explain why even androids are affected by it. When they found the mirror weapon I thought that's what they were going to say it was. I'm bracing myself for being disappointed when the mystery of the show is answered, but I also have faith (hah) that there is some non-supernatural answer to everything. The thing about prophecies is that they're intentionally vague, and like someone said above, it applies to almost every named character. Any ark could have landed on any planet and the "orphaned boy on an empty land" or whatever could apply to anyone the cultists wanted, and all the arks probably have a candidate sooner or later. I could imagine a future season where the surviving characters we know are fighting against a fully-loaded Mithraic ark from another planet who claim to be led by a prophet fitting that description. I'm not clear if there's more than one ark, Marcus and Sue were arguing about what to do if other people came to the planet though.
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The most hilarious part of the pilot episode had to be how Mother thought she could cover up her true nature despite all her weird mannerisms and unbelievable cover story.
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When I first saw the creatures I immediately assumed they had something to do with the embryos left in the ship. They look too humanoid, like some form of severely mutated human. They also didn't start showing up until years after they landed. My theory is that the strange monolith in the desert and the shafts are somehow related, maybe some really strange alien entity or what remains of an alien AI. Tally falling in the tunnels gave it knowledge of humans and that Mithraic android that jumped in gave it knowledge about androids and the Mithraic cult. It uses this newfound knowledge to manipulate it's new neighbors and I think the Mithraic cult will end up choosing to identify it as Sol. It also chooses to manipulate the two groups differently, as a voice identified as Sol to the Mithraic cult and Tally to the settlement. What I don't get is why it wants Campion to kill himself but also wants to keep Mother alive? Maybe by being able to manifest as Campion it thinks it would have an easier time manipulating Mother? What did the voice tell Marcus right before he killed that cleric with the monolith? In the last episode was it trying to kill off Marcus when he fought himself?
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Keppler 22-B is just a heatsink for the giant icosahedric AI computer.
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Raised By Wolves might be a stealth No Man’s Sky prequel.
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Gonz posted:Raised By Wolves might be a stealth No Man’s Sky prequel. Lmao. But also 
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Mustang posted:When I first saw the creatures I immediately assumed they had something to do with the embryos left in the ship. They look too humanoid, like some form of severely mutated human. They also didn't start showing up until years after they landed. I think the crashing of the Ark and the creatures showing up are linked. The Ark survivors talked about the crash cracking the earth open, which may have brought these things to the surface. The show doesn't bother to try and make sense of anything though so who the gently caress knows.
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Cuddly Tumblemumps posted:For a brilliant programmer, weaponizing a service android for defense of a settlement seems like more work than reprogramming a deathbot. maybe it's nit picky, but I still can't get over no one had a plan to scan the forbidden spicy potatoes but had the foresight to reprogram a genocidal android lol
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Zmej posted:maybe it's nit picky, but I still can't get over no one had a plan to scan the forbidden spicy potatoes but had the foresight to reprogram a genocidal android lol They didn’t have the ability to analyze the potatoes until they had the escape pod from the Arc, because the original escape pod fell into a hole in the first episode.
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Zmej posted:but serious question why did he capture a necromancer and not just use two service androids? am I forgetting a line of dialogue? like "oh well resources were sparse and this was the first thing I could get my hands on"? They've mentioned several times that Father has less "processing power" than Mother, right? That might be because Father had his processor replaced early on, but maybe hacker-Campion needed a more sophisticated android than Father's model to program a better facsimile for emotion and nurturing or something like that. That said there's a lot about this show that I just kind of accept as happening regardless of sense or logic. Kind of like the way I watch David Lynch or Darren Aronofsky's weirder stuff.
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It's also possible hacker-campion knew about the Ark and set up this conflict on purpose.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:It's also possible hacker-campion knew about the Ark and set up this conflict on purpose. If the two stowaway yahoo atheists knew about the ark, then so did Camp sr. This show is annoying me with so many unanswered questions, and the fact that the survivors are definitely NOT acting like they are the last human beings alive. Why do they treat human life so flippantly? Also isnt mother’s Android goo all gonna leak out while she wanders the wilderness? Isn’t that bad for them? Are all androids built with a ton of extra goo just in case? Also what was with that other person that keeps showing up with the whispering voices? Is it really Tally? Some weird alien or something that doesn’t quite know how to interact with people? I’ll still keep watching but my patience is wearing kinda thin.
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LibCrusher posted:If the two stowaway yahoo atheists knew about the ark, then so did Camp sr.
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We’re only 7 episodes in of 10 and a 2nd season they’ve answered some things but the rest is the long game. Have faith.
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Vintersorg posted:Have faith. No. 
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:This is a good comparison. i'm enjoying the show but i kinda would like to know why they are called necromancers
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Why are certain tanks and jets named things like the Chieftain, Typhoon, Osprey, Hornet, or whatever? It’s cool and evocative.
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lets be honest they were probably called medusas until some studio exec left a note saying "why is she called medusa when she doesnt even have snakes for hair?", then did a tiny fistpump knowing he's justified his six figures
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MIRACULOUS ANDROID PREGNANCY
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It's a dumb name for something that just annihilates people, but it was created and presumably named by the Mythriac. Maybe there was some old tyme relijun logic about the soulless atheists dying, so the Mythriac could be reborn yadda yadda. Who knows. I could see some irl chuds calling a drone "necromancer" while they bomb brown people with it cause it sounds badass. But really the reason is someone thought it sounded badass.
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wolfs posted:Why are certain tanks and jets named things like the Chieftain, Typhoon, Osprey, Hornet, or whatever? It’s cool and evocative. banshee is also cool and evocative and vastly more accurate to the powerset
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What the gently caress. That medical check up sequence. Also "fuel blood". You can't fool me show. I know it's milk. Edit: Her name is Mary-Sue. Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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hahaha amazing Ep9: MOTHER NEEDS BLOOD is a strong opening Open Source Idiom posted:What the gently caress. yeah well... Mary in the Bible is probably a Mary Sue too dont u think! there was even a throwaway line a while back about how she can’t get pregnant! and her mullet makes it impossible to dislike her! wolfs fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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man 8-9th episode was quite something the biggest thing was those metal tablets causing self diagnostics to trigger with mother and that whole alien head spewing milk thing. Very lost like mystery I hope it gets solved in sane fashion and what is mother pregnant with  i hope it isnt xenomorph. Because pauls feels that the children will be good is fairly ominous to me
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lumpentroll posted:i hope ragnar is dead you and I know he is now a Chekhov’s fake dad for ep 10
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Anonymous Zebra posted:YES. I started writing a rather long post about how this show feels like some kind of fever dream with a weird fluid idea of reality, It reminds me of the Sixth Sense thing where they deliberately never show the beginning or ending of any scene and never track the main character between scenes because it's the only way him being a ghost can even slightly surprise the audience The show has been careful to keep everything internally consistent and has an attention to detail so "we will ignore everything outside of this limited narrative" is definitely a deliberate choice. I'm really hoping it doesnt end up being used to present really underwhelming plot points as HOLY gently caress WHAT JUST HAPPENED moments
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Eps 8/9 So... Androids are alien tech ?
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This show is bad, "every episode another weirder less explained thing happens" does not a good show make and I have zero confidence we will get an explanation for even half of what is happening in the final episode of the season
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Sep 24, 2020 18:47
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It's very good actually, I also liked Lost by the way.
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If this sci-fi show doesn't explain the entire show's plot in the beginning of the first episode like a star wars movie then it is a bad sci-fi show Actually I like this science fiction mystery so far. Like any show similar to this, the end could easily make or break it. With its themes involving religion and technology and some unknowns from the perspective of the show's audience, I don't think it's gone overboard yet. I'm watching until the end
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