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Tato posted:Also, when GOOD heel commentators finally, begrudgingly say something good about the babyface or give them props for winning, adds a little extra. This is one of those things that really helps Hogan vs. Andre at WM3. Ventura absolutely hands it to Hogan for doing the impossible. One of my favorite Ventura calls came from a Bushwackers match (forgot their opponents). The heels jumped them and did something illegal. The Bushwackers recovered and got back at them by doing the same illegal thing, this time standing tall while the crowd cheered. Ventura's response wasn't to poo poo on the faces for cheating, but instead shrugging and saying, "Turnabout's fair play! I can get behind that!"
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davidbix posted:Since his name was mentioned: I think he’s more gullible than fabulist. He seems like the type who believed whatever rumour he read on RSPW first and never learned to re-evaluate as new info became available.
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Gavok posted:This is one of those things that really helps Hogan vs. Andre at WM3. Ventura absolutely hands it to Hogan for doing the impossible. Ventura was absolutely about 'Whataboutism' for the faces. Which worked great when it was Hogan and Warrior cheating their balls off and getting a pass for it. It didn't work so well when he was trying to do it to Ricky Steamboat at WM 3.
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How many "New' tag teams did WWF have in the 0S? New Rockers, New Blackjacks, New Midnight Express...were the New Age Outlaws a "new" tag team? Also were any of these teams besides he Outlaws any good or memorable? Maybe they wouldn't have been so bad if they weren't supposed to carry on the legacy of some of the most beloved teams ever. This "New [Team]" label was a curse more than anything.
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NikkolasKing posted:How many "New' tag teams did WWF have in the 0S? New Rockers, New Blackjacks, New Midnight Express...were the New Age Outlaws a "new" tag team? Owen Hart and Jim Neidhart were the New Foundation.
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What were Owen Hart and Koko B. Ware known as during that short period of time they were teaming up? They even had similar outfits to the New Foundation. EDIT: Which is basically graphics from the opening credits of Saved by the Bell.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What were Owen Hart and Koko B. Ware known as during that short period of time they were teaming up? They even had similar outfits to the New Foundation. High Energy
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The Croc posted:High Energy I have no memory of that being their name, haha, holy poo poo.
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NikkolasKing posted:How many "New' tag teams did WWF have in the 0S? New Rockers, New Blackjacks, New Midnight Express...were the New Age Outlaws a "new" tag team? The New Age Outlaws weren't a "New" team. They got the name from Jim Ross, who was admonishing them for their despicable actions. "You're like some new age outlaws!"
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BrigadierSensible posted:Which led me to ask, what about the opposite? What big famous teams were actually enemies, or cold to one another in real life?
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Davros1 posted:The New Age Outlaws weren't a "New" team. They got the name from Jim Ross, who was admonishing them for their despicable actions. "You're like some new age outlaws!" I do like the implication that there were Age Outlaws though. Hogan and Piper around that time maybe?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I have no memory of that being their name, haha, holy poo poo. Literally only know it because I had a WWF Annual as a kid from exactly the time that team existed, therefore it seemed way more long lasting to me than it actually was.
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sk posted:I do like the implication that there were Age Outlaws though. Hogan and Piper around that time maybe? I think Terry Funk had a stable in WCW he called "The Old Age Outlaws"
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Owen Hart is definitely one of the biggest cases I can think of where he was completely forgettable as a face (if obviously very good in the ring), then turned heel and grew a personality overnight
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sk posted:I do like the implication that there were Age Outlaws though. Hogan and Piper around that time maybe? A stable with Lawler and most of the speaking out thread.
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NikkolasKing posted:How many "New' tag teams did WWF have in the 0S? New Rockers, New Blackjacks, New Midnight Express...were the New Age Outlaws a "new" tag team? It's a few years behind, but don't forget The New Dream Team, Dino Bravo and Greg Valentine.
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Davros1 posted:I think Terry Funk had a stable in WCW he called "The Old Age Outlaws"
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Halloween Jack posted:What?! He was never part of the West Texas Rednecks. https://www.cagematch.net/?id=29&nr=224 quote:Arn Anderson quote:[0.0] "This whole faction is so disrespectful to all the legends in it. This whole thing was sorta meant to parody the "New Age Outlaws" but they literally never did anything with this possibly "Dream Team" faction, and just turned into a whole waste of really amazing talent."
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Critical posted:Basically Terry was hurt pretty bad by the last bump he took onto one of the C4 boards. Foley hints in his book that Terry was booked to win and just wasn't able to go any longer, but he's probably working. Hedgehog Pie posted:I can't imagine Terry being booked to win though, it seemed tailor made for Foley. Even if he initially was, I can actually see Terry going to bat for Foley. That's right, now I remember the bit from the book about the ring failing to explode. I guess the improvisation explains the ending. There's still something odd about the reactions of Foley, Funk, and the ref after the pin that reminds me of the time Barry Windham got pinned in Flair's figure four, which I think was an accident. I'm probably just a mark. It's one of my favorite torch passing moments in any case.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:I think he’s more gullible than fabulist. He seems like the type who believed whatever rumour he read on RSPW first and never learned to re-evaluate as new info became available.
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Red posted:It's a few years behind, but don't forget The New Dream Team, Dino Bravo and Greg Valentine. Which would make Dino Bravo the replacement. I'm not sure I can think of a sadder thing than being Replacement Ed Leslie.
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Xerzes posted:Which would make Dino Bravo the replacement. I'm not sure I can think of a sadder thing than being Replacement Ed Leslie. Being Ed Leslie
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Xerzes posted:Which would make Dino Bravo the replacement. I'm not sure I can think of a sadder thing than being Replacement Ed Leslie. 
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I'm glad Greg and Ed are still two dudes being bros but at the same time that's one of the most Florida pictures I've ever seen.
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sk posted:I do like the implication that there were Age Outlaws though. If only we had Imagine Dragons instead of sixpence none the richer. Then they would be the “welcome to the New Age, radioactive, outlaws”
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Roughly how many openly LGBTQ wrestlers are currently active in WWE, AEW, New Japan, Impact etc?
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Roughly how many openly LGBTQ wrestlers are currently active in WWE, AEW, New Japan, Impact etc?
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davidbix posted:Off the top of my head and also refreshing my memory with Wikipedia: Sonya Deville, Mercedes Martinez, Shayna Baszler, Tegan Nox, Piper Niven, Jake Atlas, Kiera Hogan, Diamante, Nyla Rose, Sonny Kiss, and maybe Kenny Omega. (He's repeatedly liked tweets from fans that talk about him being bi/ a bi role model.) Add Aubrey Edwards to that list (she's bi) if we're including referees.
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I legit thought that was Ed Leslie and his mother at first lol
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Valentine really is in that Arn Anderson club where he doesn't seem to have aged in 30 years because he looked old as dirt 30 years ago
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DeathChicken posted:Valentine really is in that Arn Anderson club where he doesn't seem to have aged in 30 years because he looked old as dirt 30 years ago Also in that club: - Nick Bockwinkel - Paul Heyman - Verne Gagne
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Where does Ron Killings fit into this? He's looked the exact same since his debut in WWE.
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CombineThresher posted:Where does Ron Killings fit into this? He's looked the exact same since his debut in WWE. Ron Killing is in a group with Gangrel because they're both vampires
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Ganso Bomb posted:Ron Killing is in a group with Gangrel because they're both vampires Gangrel looks like Greg Valentine with fangs, though.
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Who's the best Generation Z (people born from 1997-present) wrestler?
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fatherofmustard posted:Who's the best Generation Z (people born from 1997-present) wrestler? El Hijo del Vikingo? Utami Hayashishita? Ren Narita? Momo Watanabe? If NXT UK was a thing that people watched then you could also add A Kid but sadly it isn't so basically he doesn't exist
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