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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
China is literally going to reenact the movie Red Dawn, PRC troops will parachute into your town and force you at gunpoint to work at the Tyson chicky tendies factory. I believe this will happen in the next five years and I am basing major life decisions on that belief. I am not a crank.

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One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost
Taint Runned again!

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gripweed posted:

I feel very confident in saying that China will not invade mainland USA in the near future.

Near future, absolutely not, but look at our near future. But there's no efforts to rebuild. The best on offer from our geriatric politburo is managed decline, brutal austerity, and corporate looting. And climate change is rapidly slapping us in the loving face, with increasing intensity, year after year. That's going to be such a ridiculous force multiplier for whatever unrest comes next.

I think America is largely done, more than anything. And we just haven't accepted it yet. I know it's pointless to look so far ahead, but I really don't think the rest of the world is just going to shrug and jazz hands as everything implodes here.

Gripweed posted:

China is literally going to reenact the movie Red Dawn, PRC troops will parachute into your town and force you at gunpoint to work at the Tyson chicky tendies factory. I believe this will happen in the next five years and I am basing major life decisions on that belief. I am not a crank.

To be fair, I said within the next 30. Just spitballing here.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Gripweed posted:

China is literally going to reenact the movie Red Dawn, PRC troops will parachute into your town and force you at gunpoint to work at the Tyson chicky tendies factory. I believe this will happen in the next five years and I am basing major life decisions on that belief. I am not a crank.

zoomers will weep with joy over enforced production for export

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Taintrunner posted:

Near future, absolutely not, but look at our near future. But there's no efforts to rebuild. The best on offer from our geriatric politburo is managed decline, brutal austerity, and corporate looting. And climate change is rapidly slapping us in the loving face, with increasing intensity, year after year. That's going to be such a ridiculous force multiplier for whatever unrest comes next.

I think America is largely done, more than anything. And we just haven't accepted it yet. I know it's pointless to look so far ahead, but I really don't think the rest of the world is just going to shrug and jazz hands as everything implodes here.

We also have a massive military and hundreds of nuclear weapons. Our military sucks and can't win a war, but still. We are extremely safe from invasion.

I agree with your larger position that things are going to get way worse in America very quickly. But the result of that is going to be like, massive shantytowns, areas of the country getting ethnically cleansed by right-wing militias, and levels of wealth inequality never before seen. Not invasion by foreign powers.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Gripweed posted:

China is literally going to reenact the movie Red Dawn, PRC troops will parachute into your town and force you at gunpoint to work at the Tyson chicky tendies factory. I believe this will happen in the next five years and I am basing major life decisions on that belief. I am not a crank.

https://twitter.com/kjy1066/status/1287804470437523456

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014



drat, Jeff Gerstmann really let himself go more than usual since quarantine

theHUNGERian
Feb 23, 2006


America first!

Moot .1415926535
Mar 24, 2006

Yep, that's pretty much it.
The Something Awful Forums > General Bullshit > Goon Project: Moving to China to Join the Army!

jk I didn’t read any of that bullshit

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gripweed posted:

We also have a massive military and hundreds of nuclear weapons. Our military sucks and can't win a war, but still. We are extremely safe from invasion.

I agree with your larger position that things are going to get way worse in America very quickly. But the result of that is going to be like, massive shantytowns, areas of the country getting ethnically cleansed by right-wing militias, and levels of wealth inequality never before seen. Not invasion by foreign powers.

Ah, I don't mean to imply a full on, Red Dawn esque invasion. I think our wires are crossed there.



One of the major plot points of the geopolitical guidebook to the post-Y2K world order, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (dir. Hideo Kojima, 2001), infers that an attack on Wall Street, one of the major centers of global capitalism, would shut down the world's economy and potentially throw the planet into chaos. As we face the approaching potential of wars for basic resources in the face of climate change - China, India and Pakistan all share a major water reservoir that is rapidly drying up, possibly dooming millions of people to thirst and unleashing chaos - and America's institutions accelerate their erosion into nothingness, the Midwest's purpose as one of the planet's major breadbaskets comes into question. Yes, shantytowns. Yes, right-wing militias. Yes, even more crippling inequality. But like I said, that has to hit a breaking point eventually. You begin to risk a failure cascade as our global economic order, in a manner similar to the tangled wires of alliances which led up to the cataclysmic World War 1, begins to lose its centers of power. The wealthy already have a plan - flee to survival bunkers in New Zealand. They will abandon us to burn, as they are already stateless individuals with global dominion. I think it's foolish to assume that, what is essentially up for grabs as free real estate at this point, will simply be abandoned as No Man's Land in the face of a national collapse, that would trip the killswitch of the global order of modern capitalism itself. There is no serious reason to reject the remote possibility that China would consider taking the reins in this power vacuum and course correct.



In the cinematic work Wolf Warrior 2 (dir. Wu Jing, 2017), the argument is made to African nations such as Tanzania, is that if they're to be colonized as subservient states to capital, it may as well be one without an ideology of racial supremacy or a trigger-happy military. Frank Grillo (known mostly for his minor cameos in the imperialist propaganda series known as the Marvel Cinematic Universe) as the face of unipolarity, is made to answer for not only his crimes against the downtrodden workers of the world, but for the crimes of Wall Street and the City of London as they indebted the struggling nations of sub-Saharan Africa to the tune of $200 billion dollars. As we face 1-3 billion global climate refugees by 2050, leading to the shattering of the current world order as we know it, it would be prudent to consider alternative structures of power in the face of calamity. It is not fruitful to the mind of the socialist worker to assume a nihilistic black hole, all consuming, in the face of materialist struggle amongst a rapidly constricting geopolitical environment.

Taintrunner has issued a correction as of 03:48 on Sep 25, 2020

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003






Slippery Tilde
https://youtu.be/4RHg0f5Nq4c

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Taintrunner posted:

The wealthy already have a plan - flee to survival bunkers in New Zealand. They will abandon us to burn, as they are already stateless individuals with global dominion. I think it's foolish to assume that, what is essentially up for grabs as free real estate at this point,

this is where I think you're mistaken. just because the super wealthy leave doesn't mean the military is going to disappear

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

china isn't communist

put taintrunner on ignore

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1308840081768304645?s=20

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013



sounds kinky

e: edging to Trump edging Biden

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

indigi posted:

this is where I think you're mistaken. just because the super wealthy leave doesn't mean the military is going to disappear

you think the military is going to keep showing up to base when the dollar becomes worth less than the paper it's printed on

I have embraced pure dialectical materialism, and accepted Xi-Doreist Thought into my heart. My bond with the workers of the world has only grown stronger

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Taintrunner posted:

Near future, absolutely not, but look at our near future. But there's no efforts to rebuild. The best on offer from our geriatric politburo is managed decline, brutal austerity, and corporate looting. And climate change is rapidly slapping us in the loving face, with increasing intensity, year after year. That's going to be such a ridiculous force multiplier for whatever unrest comes next.

I think America is largely done, more than anything. And we just haven't accepted it yet. I know it's pointless to look so far ahead, but I really don't think the rest of the world is just going to shrug and jazz hands as everything implodes here.


To be fair, I said within the next 30. Just spitballing here.

It's ok people can just marry into wealth and comfort and then whine endlessly on forums.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Regarde Aduck posted:

It's ok people can just marry into wealth and comfort and then whine endlessly on forums.

beats the poo poo out of being homeless and whining endlessly on forums, can tell you that from experience

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
Mods struck taintrunner down and he has returned more powerful than they could possibly imagine

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Taintrunner posted:

landlords are murdering people's pets and threatening to execute their children and the American leftist's response is telling people to vote for Biden

so you think China is where you belong? Get out of USA yes but China is a big commitment

unless you already speak the language / have family there or something of course

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

T-man posted:

imperialism but you eat rice based rations instead of wheat based rations

chinese eat a lot of wheat bro, it's still gunna be wheat rations in noodle or flatbread form

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Let's take two steps back for a minute, forget my inferring of a general soft transfer of power scenario, and say gently caress it. For shits and giggles, all bets are off, and China attempts the Red Dawn scenario.



The year is 2037. After over a decade of unrest and general collapse, a coalition of the willing, lead by the People's Liberation Army of the Chinese Communist Party, in fear of the recent collapse of the American government, has decided to spearhead an effort to invade the United States of America to secure hundreds of nuclear missile silos out of fear of them falling into xenophobic Q-Anon radicals who mean to bring about the Day of Reckoning by unleashing hell itself upon the Middle East, Beijing, those French fuckers who stabbed us in the back for not supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom, etc. Now, the PLA alone has the standing manpower of around 2 million bodies. From a nation of one billion, and with open conscription, you could easily inflate those numbers to say... gently caress it. 20-30 million in the worst case scenario, not that they'd need that many. Not to mention whatever other countries decide gently caress it, America's fallen, let's save the world before the MAGA hordes kill us all, and if China leads the charge and soaks up most of the lead, better for us.

The United States military has about 975,000 bodies, as of today. Rookie numbers. In the wake of a long-running collapse, that would go down. As well as morale, equipment, readiness, etc. All of those trillions we've pissed away over the years? Absurdly inflated taxpayer handouts to contractors, corporations, grifters, so on and so forth. America's descent into hard-right extremism has isolated us from the neoliberal order. We can't make the same promises of stability like we used to. So you have Merkel 2.0, Macron 2.0, etc. etc. all looking at what's coming and going ah, I'm not getting mixed up in this for nothing. Maybe Canada? Or they look at the refugee crisis flooding their border, nationalist calls to erect a wall with armed guards and automated turrets, and say hey, let's let China clean up this mess.



Day 0 - Chinese special forces, acting in a manner similar to Green Berets backing hard right coups in Latin America, silently appear and promise aid, arms, and direct support to socialist rifle militias across the country, in exchange for a guerilla campaign to rapidly accelerate the dismantling of the American state. We're talking anti-material rifle drive-bys on power transformers, controlled demolitions of major bridges, the general disruption of supply routes - the implosion of whatever's left of the economy, but most importantly, major supply lines required to operate an army in a defensive effort to prevent regime change. Chaos erupts, people think it's the start of a full-on civil war, and the right wing ethnic cleansing militias begin to directly integrate with the standing military in order to bolster their numbers. Which ends up being the smart play, you don't want to get bogged down in an insurgency, so condense these two forces into one united front. Plus, you get the civilian populace to really turn on these fuckers, as they're openly running the streets and making everyone's lives even more miserable.

Day 0.5 - President Li Keqiang announces to the United Nations Security Council that hard right fundamentalist extremists under the QAnon banner are at risk of seizing control of hundreds of nuclear weapons, posing a threat to world peace. Keqiang demands President Kyle Rittenhouse* (elected under questionable circumstances) of the United States to open his borders to U.N. Weapons Inspectors to take survey of the situation and assess the risk of weapons of mass destruction falling into the hands of terrorists. Rittenhouse obviously refuses, stripping off his suit and growing incredibly red and mad, showing his bare rear end to the entire General Assembly. "As the fabled Zoomers of your land used to say, imperialist dog - you've activated my trap card," as the People's Liberation Army now has an unquestionable global mandate to form a coalition of the willing and unleash "Shock & Awe" as tens of millions of PLA soldiers mobilize on both the Mexican and Canadian sides of the border, in partnership with the recently formed government of Prime Minster Jagmeet Singh to bring stability to the violence erupting as a result of the refugee crisis.



Day 1 - Chinese stealth fighters and bombers strike hard military and logistical targets all along a 250 mile window along both borders. In the chaos, paratroopers are deployed to secure every active nuclear missile silo before CENTCOM can formulate an organized response. Major police stations are smashed with precision guided bunker busters, laser guided thanks to the socialist militias I mentioned earlier. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of soldiers strip off their uniform and flee the military out of fear. It takes about six hours before the first combined arms assault forces cross the border and begin lapping up the remains. Before President Rittenhouse can make an emergency broadcast, the Supreme General of the People's Liberation Army siezes the airwaves, and via livestream to millions of downtrodden and terrified Americans, declares in one clear voice, "When it comes to great steaks, I've just raised the stakes. The Sharper Image is one of my favorite stores, with fantastic products of all kinds. That's why I'm thrilled they agree with me. Trump Steaks are the world's greatest steaks and I mean that in every sense of the word. And The Sharper Image is the only store where you can buy them. Trump Steaks are by far the best tasting most flavorful beef you've ever had, truly in a league of their own. Trump Steaks are five star gourmet, quality that belong in a very very select category of restaurant, and are Certified Angus Beef Prime. There's nothing better than that. Of all of the beef produced in America, less than one percent qualifies for that category. It's the best of the best. Until now you could only enjoy steaks of this quality in one of my resort restaurants or America's finest steakhouses, but now, that's changed. Today through The Sharper Image, you can enjoy the world's greatest steaks, in your own home, with family, friends, anytime. Trump Steaks are aged to perfection to provide the ultimate in tenderness and flavor. If you like your steak, you'll absolutely love Trump Steaks. Treat yourself to the very very best life has to offer. And as a gift, Trump Steaks are the best you can give. One bite and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. And believe me, I understand steaks, it's my favorite food, and these are the best."

the truth of the matter is that if China was to seriously invade the most our military could do is help them unload the landing ships

Taintrunner has issued a correction as of 04:51 on Sep 25, 2020

elaboration
Feb 21, 2020

Clark Nova posted:

the only person in America with reason to have faith in the judiciary

LMAO

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbx50Gsi9g0
guess who just watched a clint eastwood movie

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
i think china will simply conquer us economically, like in that zach galafinakis movie where the antagonists are the koch brothers attempting to sell indiana to the PRC and then will ferrell punches a babby

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


How did they get 30 million troops across the Pacific?

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crazycryodude posted:

How did they get 30 million troops across the Pacific?

How did America get 40 active military bases with tens of thousands of deployed personnel around the world?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


A few centuries of imperialism and a very well-developed navy, and they still can't deploy and supply tens of millions of combat troops across the Pacific Ocean

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crazycryodude posted:

A few centuries of imperialism and a very well-developed navy, and they still can't deploy and supply tens of millions of combat troops across the Pacific Ocean

Like I said, this is about 2037. My napkin math, which is probably way off, comparing cargo ships to a modern naval vessel, would round out to about 4-5 days. Jam some satellites, blame it on Starlink debris, whatever the gently caress it takes to buy you as much time as possible. Which gets into the interesting question of a naval shooting war, it's been nearly a loving century since the last one, and the technology has rapidly shifted, but the reality of aircraft carriers being virtually defenseless tin cans still stands. The Chinese navy has 335 vessels as of today against the 296 vessels of the US Navy, and the Chinese would rapidly expand in force projection capability between now and a hypothetical 2037 scenario. Again, I think the best guess is sheer loving numbers, which is what any nonsensical Chinese Red Dawn scenario would have to consider.

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Taintrunner posted:

How did America get 40 active military bases with tens of thousands of deployed personnel around the world?

Two world wars and 70 years of foreign policy with that specific goal in mind

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

T-man posted:

china isn't communist

put taintrunner on ignore

congratulations on entering the top 100 btw

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

Two world wars and 70 years of foreign policy with that specific goal in mind

great. China has been expanding their global influence and America is entering a period of rapid decline. stonks go up, stonks go down. can't explain that

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Taintrunner posted:

great. China has been expanding their global influence and America is entering a period of rapid decline. stonks go up, stonks go down. can't explain that

Broke: UN

Woke: SCO

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Ok yeah the PLAN would only need, oh, call it 500 world-class amphibious assault ships to get the first wave of a million troops across the ocean, the other 19+ million can come over later on troopships/later trips. Lemme just check how many they plan to build right now... ok, 5. Is the PLAN planning a 100x expansion in size in the next decade and just not telling anyone?

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

GoutPatrol posted:

congratulations on entering the top 100 btw

Thank you, it's been a great time. Top 20 baby here we goooo

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crazycryodude posted:

Ok yeah the PLAN would only need, oh, call it 500 world-class amphibious assault ships to get the first wave of a million troops across the ocean, the other 19+ million can come over later on troopships/later trips. Lemme just check how many they plan to build right now... ok, 5. Is the PLAN planning a 100x expansion in size in the next decade and just not telling anyone?

Like I said, I think the closest scenario to a Chinese Red Dawn 2.0 event would involve most of those troops winding up in Canada/south of the border as a result of the crippling political instability as a result of America (and Brazil too) in rapid decline, as well as the climate apocalypse ramping up and starting to really destabilize the global political order.

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Taintrunner posted:

great. China has been expanding their global influence and America is entering a period of rapid decline. stonks go up, stonks go down. can't explain that

Right, I'm not saying its impossible just that it requires work. The closest base they have to the US is in Argentina, so it doesn't really look like gaining a strategic foothold to invade America is something China is working towards, or even values at the moment.

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat
this is tremendous content

Apathy420
May 18, 2017

by Cyrano4747

Taintrunner posted:

Like I said, I think the closest scenario to a Chinese Red Dawn 2.0 event would involve most of those troops winding up in Canada/south of the border as a result of the crippling political instability as a result of America (and Brazil too) in rapid decline, as well as the climate apocalypse ramping up and starting to really destabilize the global political order.

Get some sleep and sleep well knowing that I alone am strong enough to swim out and sink all those battleships myself.

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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

I'm not in the top 100 for posts per day in cspam :(

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