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neither the book or the tv series are set in america
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gradenko_2000 posted:A movie about everything white America does to black people, except reversed, would be just as a ridiculous pile of projection in 2001 as it would be tomorrow.
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Sep 24, 2020 12:25
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josh04 posted:neither the book or the tv series are set in america Yes, because a book that's about what happens to white people if they're the ones who are colonized instead would not be set in America if the metaphor were to hold. That doesn't mean it's not a commentary on that, because it even says right in the trailer that the colonization would in reverse, so obviously the geographic progression would also be in reverse. I'm starting to think I understand the premise of this story better than you do.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Yes, because a book that's about what happens to white people if they're the ones who are colonized instead would not be set in America if the metaphor were to hold. That doesn't mean it's not a commentary on that, because it even says right in the trailer that the colonization would in reverse, so obviously the geographic progression would also be in reverse. you definitely understand the book you're imagining in your head, sure? a black british author wrote a kids book set in london about racial discrimination and i'm the idiot for saying maybe the most relevant reference point isn't the race war politics of american neonazis.
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Sep 24, 2020 12:37
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Man in the High Castle (the book) was good and did a good job with "what if America was a colonial dominion"
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Sep 24, 2020 13:41
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well yes because pkd is as close to a gift from the heavens as many of us are likely to see and the big brains at amazon couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag with a pen
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Sep 24, 2020 13:56
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Zvahl posted:well yes because pkd is as close to a gift from the heavens as many of us are likely to see and the big brains at amazon couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag with a pen i'm still incredibly mad at just watching the first three episodes and giving up; it wasn't even very bad but it completely missed the point of the novel. i'm even kinda starting to be okay with the novel just ending out of nowhere
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Sep 24, 2020 14:08
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StashAugustine posted:i'm still incredibly mad at just watching the first three episodes and giving up; it wasn't even very bad but it completely missed the point of the novel. i'm even kinda starting to be okay with the novel just ending out of nowhere I missed the point of a lot of pkds stuff especially in the text when i was younger and really liked a lot of the adaptations, i still have a soft spot for Scanner Darkly just because of that loving cast, but man in the high castle was what shook me of caring about his adaptations, it really is an ur example of missing the point as completely as possible and absolutely lol at 4 loving seasons about the subject matter from the most bloated corporation in human history
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Sep 24, 2020 14:11
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scanner darkly is a decent adaptation, i just have an irrational grudge because they cut most of donna's monologue about the guy who saw God while tripping culminating in her shooting up the coke truck; which i totally get should be cut for time but it's one of my favorite passages
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Sep 24, 2020 14:16
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it was the biggest loss too because ryder had some really good deliveries in that and donna got the biggest cut to her dialogue, keanu was good as he generally is but arctor isn't there to be terribly thoughtful or coherent i haven't read the book in years but i really should again soon, I forget if she was involved in my favorite story in that which was where If I'd known it was harmless, I'd have killed it myself came from which the movie also hosed up still one of the prettiest movies i've seen, it makes most of the cgi garbage from the past 14 years look pathetic, like how wind waker and killer7 still look good
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Sep 24, 2020 14:21
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:only book to do that right is years of rice and salt, where the only white people left are in the north hebrides and entirely irrelevant to muslim colonized europe The WWI sequence was goddamn insane.
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Sep 24, 2020 15:41
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I watched Dragged Across Concrete It was pretty good
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Sep 24, 2020 15:49
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watched Southland Tales I liked it when the policeman said "Flow my tears"
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Sep 24, 2020 21:40
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Scientists are saying the future is going to be far more futuristic than they originally predicted.
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Sep 24, 2020 21:41
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Southland Tales is more fun to remember much later than to actually watch.
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Sep 24, 2020 22:47
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:only book to do that right is years of rice and salt, where the only white people left are in the north hebrides and entirely irrelevant to muslim colonized europe i feel like most alt history writers skew way to the right, kim stanley robinson being a huge exception, old school lefty that he is.
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Sep 24, 2020 22:58
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General Dog posted:Southland Tales is more fun to remember much later than to actually watch. Yea, it has its moments, but is not actually very good
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Sep 24, 2020 23:12
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1309289012289560577?s=20
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https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1308866590058991616
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General Dog posted:Southland Tales is more fun to remember much later than to actually watch. Southland Tales is great to watch when you get way too drunk and stay up way too late, & you slip into Drunkards Luminous Mind state, at which point you and it are vibrating on the same dopey frequency.
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Sep 25, 2020 02:33
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https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1309226029672796160 He made a little video about it too!
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Sep 25, 2020 02:36
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I havent had heroes since Suda51 killed them all in No More Heroes
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Sep 25, 2020 02:38
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the one good part of 2020 is the absence of Marvel movies and the rehabilitation of Zack Snyder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u77M-oANRtQ
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who must go? https://twitter.com/jessehawken/status/1308827809415155712
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Atrocious Joe posted:the one good part of 2020 is the absence of Marvel movies and the rehabilitation of Zack Snyder 2020 redeemed
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Sep 25, 2020 03:37
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Is that moviebob video a fun hatewatch at least? I'm still a MCU agnostic, but I could use a good laugh. But unsure if it's worth improving Bob's metrics by one view.
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Sep 25, 2020 03:42
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sometimes I wonder if sorkin is one of the leading causes of Liberal Brain, or merely a victim and symptom either way, I hate it
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Sep 25, 2020 03:46
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i can see this election going a billion different ways but not that one
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Sep 25, 2020 04:49
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What he says but it's a tender moment, the enablers all have tears in their eyes. It's a montage set to "Across the Universe", we see Trump's handlers tearfully asking him to come out and concede defeat, mouthing "it's time to go". Cut to Biden and the dems celebrating and ending on a slow zoom on Trump's face in a dimly lit room. Grevling has issued a correction as of 05:00 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Sep 25, 2020 04:56
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I think it's going to be like chars counterattack
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Sep 25, 2020 05:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VF_9d0ar3I
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Atrocious Joe posted:the one good part of 2020 is the absence of Marvel movies and the rehabilitation of Zack Snyder oh god this pile of poo poo is going to get good reviews because of the pandemic isn’t it gently caress marvel too
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Sep 25, 2020 05:13
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Zvahl posted:well yes because pkd is as close to a gift from the heavens as many of us are likely to see and the big brains at amazon couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag with a pen PKD's prose is incredibly mediocre.
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Sep 25, 2020 07:17
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Echo Chamber posted:Is that moviebob video a fun hatewatch at least? Eh, I have a high tolerance for this sort of thing, but he said you shouldn't be happy that superhero movies are gone because it deprives working class people in Hollywood jobs, which is a massive oversimplification but whatever. Then about halfway through he implies that if you don't like Marvel Superhero Movies or Disney or corporate culture, then you are an antisemite.
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Sep 25, 2020 09:17
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i think a lot these days about how america got west wing and britain got the thick of it
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Sep 25, 2020 09:25
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I can never get into alt history books because they always have the same people being born and ending up in the same positions as real life hundreds of years after the event that changed the timeline. Like the entirety of Eurasia is blown up by a meteor in 1650? Abraham Lincoln still frees the slaves.
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I've been thinking about smarm lately. The British have Christopher Hitchens tier "wit", while Americans have the self-righteous kind in West Wing. I associate British politics with schoolboy giggles in the House of Commons and American politics with emotive speeches. "How dare you, sir!" Grevling has issued a correction as of 09:31 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Sep 25, 2020 09:28
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the thick of it was pretty brutally honest about what was driving the blairites iirc
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The thick of it just continues the libertarian contempt of politicians and civil servants from yes minister Though I guess yes minister shat on unions and the thick of it just ignores left wing stuff because its focus is on blarites, Tories and Nick Clegg
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