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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I've a simple rule of thumb for when I'll leave labour: I'll do it when corbyn does I hadnt thought about it that way before 
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From yospos:Rufus Ping posted:NHS covid app has automatic venue check-in using QR codes
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Sep 25, 2020 10:12
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Didn't know Pizza Express in Woking was open that late
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Sep 25, 2020 10:15
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Wait, so was this another example of the right wing press using sex rings as an excuse for Islamophobia?
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Sep 25, 2020 10:23
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halal "secret" lol do they think the little sign they put in the window is like the hobo code
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Sep 25, 2020 10:32
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I've a simple rule of thumb for when I'll leave labour: I'll do it when corbyn does Corbyn and Abbott are in a very different position from anyone ITT in that they have at least SOME power to make change, but honestly, yes, they probably should split. Labour as it stands is dead as a socialist party and I presume they want one of those.
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Sep 25, 2020 10:36
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2 tickets to Legoland nearly 100 quid bugger me. Also like what good is two tickets to most families?
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Sep 25, 2020 10:37
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XMNN posted:halal "secret" lol Also if there's a K in a circle on you spaghetti hoops tin, that means they paid a rabbi to look at it, they know what you're eating, then they get the tin from your recycling bin and put it over their lamp on a Saturday instead of switching it on and off like a normal person. That's why the bin men won't come into your yard anymore. I'm fed up of it.
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Sep 25, 2020 10:38
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If other people want to stay in the Labour Party then good luck to them. I just didn't want to keep reading about the poo poo things they were doing while seeing the monthly fee dribbling out of my account and feeling it was all somehow done in my name. It's clear enough the party as an entity doesn't want members with opinions like mine, despite there still being some notable good eggs in it. Fine by me. I'll *probably* still vote for them because I'm in a swing seat and gently caress voting Green and letting the Tories in. But honestly if the current standard of policy-free bum emissions from the leadership continues for four years, I might not even do that. The crushing of leftist hope over the past few years has successfully broken my spirit for the fight; life is hard enough right now without trying to take on the shambling corpse of the Labour Party as well. A year ago I was hoping to make use of my incredibly limited free time to get more involved in the local party and help push things further left. Now I really don't see the point. People with more time, energy and zeal can carry on if they want, I wish them every success, but I'm just loving done with it.
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Sep 25, 2020 10:47
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sebzilla posted:If other people want to stay in the Labour Party then good luck to them. I just didn't want to keep reading about the poo poo things they were doing while seeing the monthly fee dribbling out of my account and feeling it was all somehow done in my name. It's clear enough the party as an entity doesn't want members with opinions like mine, despite there still being some notable good eggs in it. Fine by me. I'll *probably* still vote for them because I'm in a swing seat and gently caress voting Green and letting the Tories in. But honestly if the current standard of policy-free bum emissions from the leadership continues for four years, I might not even do that. The crushing of leftist hope over the past few years has successfully broken my spirit for the fight; life is hard enough right now without trying to take on the shambling corpse of the Labour Party as well. A year ago I was hoping to make use of my incredibly limited free time to get more involved in the local party and help push things further left. Now I really don't see the point. People with more time, energy and zeal can carry on if they want, I wish them every success, but I'm just loving done with it. Yeah this is how I feel really. And for all the boo-hooers (not here so much) who freak out at the suggestion of not voting Labour unless they actually have good policies, because "you'll let the Tories in", what kind of mug would one have to be to say now, 4 years out, "well I'm not happy with the direction the party's taking, but don't worry, I'll definitely still vote for you". Many people like us in swing seats will still vote for Starmer in 2024, but there's no reason to commit to that publicly. The same exact thing is happening in the US, where the great plan is "promise unconditionally you'll vote for Biden, and then when he wins you'll have all the leverage somehow". And regarding the optimism of "we did Corbyn once, we can do it again", we did Corbyn once through two mistakes made by the PLP - nominating him in the interests of "balance", and the registered supporter thing (though I think Corbyn won even without them?), and they will be sure to patch those holes by the next leadership election, so, how can we do it again?
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Sep 25, 2020 11:04
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halal food is Islam in solid form. the eating of halal food is itself a prayer to Allah. eating it makes it stronger. infects your soul with muslimality. do not eat the muslim food. make sure your meat has died as slowly and painfully as possible, and heard not a single forbidden prayer. beat the animals to death personally with a blunt object while yelling the Lord's Prayer as loud as your lungs will allow. eat it raw
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Sep 25, 2020 11:09
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Comrade Fakename posted:NEC stuff Believe I'm in your constituency so good to hear it's going in the right direction. I am holding on for now but struggle more with every begging email. We have a lot of earnest people in this thread and they have my empathy. It's been a poo poo few months in many ways so fight the good fight however you can and remember to be kind.
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Sep 25, 2020 11:11
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Gonzo McFee posted:It's fun to laugh at the moron, dude no-one is stopping you from going to twitter dot com slash francesweetman and laughing yourself sick should you so choose but lot of people ITT are fed up of having to read her shite all the time so maybe you should listen to them e: lol @ "Subway ban on bacon", that's definitely a thing that happened and not, say, some franchisees in areas with large Muslim populations deciding to make a store or two halal with turkey ham and turkey bacon Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Sep 25, 2020 11:12
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Angepain posted:halal food is Islam in solid form. the eating of halal food is itself a prayer to Allah. eating it makes it stronger. infects your soul with muslimality. do not eat the muslim food. make sure your meat has died as slowly and painfully as possible, and heard not a single forbidden prayer. beat the animals to death personally with a blunt object while yelling the Lord's Prayer as loud as your lungs will allow. eat it raw
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Sep 25, 2020 11:13
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Am I the only one who's going to comment on Maddie. That horse is long past being pulp, even the glue made out of it is beginning to give out.
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Sep 25, 2020 11:13
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Private Speech posted:Am I the only one who's going to comment on Maddie. the front page is from 2014, though your post could have been made then and still been true
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Sep 25, 2020 11:19
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Private Speech posted:Am I the only one who's going to comment on Maddie. Can't wait for Kate and Gerry to die and a dozen middle aged women turn up claiming to be the real Maddie
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Sep 25, 2020 11:20
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Bobstar posted:And regarding the optimism of "we did Corbyn once, we can do it again", we did Corbyn once through two mistakes made by the PLP - nominating him in the interests of "balance", and the registered supporter thing (though I think Corbyn won even without them?), and they will be sure to patch those holes by the next leadership election, so, how can we do it again? I'd have preferred ditching the PLP as gatekeepers altogether, but we did at least succeed in easing the nomination rules so that left MPs can probably nominate a candidate in future. Whether we can win then depends on how many left members we have. I hope that Starmer's dismal performance is at least showing left members who voted for him why they shouldn't be dazzled by a suit. But I'm afraid that people who leave thinking they can always rejoin in time to vote in hopeful elections are wrong, the NEC can set length of membership eligibility rules to whatever they like.
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Sep 25, 2020 11:23
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There is actually Maddie-related news out this week, which is that a German prosecutor said (paraphrasing) "What? Of course she's loving dead." and the papers are mulling over what this could possibly mean.
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Sep 25, 2020 11:30
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josh04 posted:There is actually Maddie-related news out this week, which is that a German prosecutor said (paraphrasing) "What? Of course she's loving dead." and the papers are mulling over what this could possibly mean. It means her parents killed her, OP
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Sep 25, 2020 11:34
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TheRat posted:It means her parents killed her, OP I make fun of conspiracy people but I can empathise due to the absolute clarity with which I understand the fact that they sedated her so they could sneak out for a couple of beers and then came back and they'd accidentally OD'd her and panicked and hid the body and blamed the nearest swarthy person, and the fact that no person in authority can see this
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Sep 25, 2020 11:41
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I've a simple rule of thumb for when I'll leave labour: I'll do it when corbyn does I've explicitly said I think the Socialist Campaign Group MPs should spearhead the leaving of Labour. Including the Corbyn brigade so yes they should
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Sep 25, 2020 11:42
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I paid up for a year last December but I won't be renewing. Leaving aside the main party stuff, the two people I was most close to in the CLP the short time I was there are unambiguously gender critical despite being friendly and supportive to my face when I joined. Just too tiring to deal with, the CLP being good and central party being poo poo I could cope with or the other way round but not both. And yeah, I could forward the whatsapps to LGBTLabour but whats the point frankly.
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Sep 25, 2020 11:44
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the sex ghost posted:I make fun of conspiracy people but I can empathise due to the absolute clarity with which I understand the fact that they sedated her so they could sneak out for a couple of beers and then came back and they'd accidentally OD'd her and panicked and hid the body and blamed the nearest swarthy person, and the fact that no person in authority can see this My only issue with this is why then keep it in the spotlight for so long - after a couple of years you can slink off into the shadows and let everyone forget.
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Sep 25, 2020 11:53
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I don't begrudge people leaving Labour (though I also don't think Labour is totally useless either and there is actual value is maintaining a socialist presence) but its still reasonable to ask "what is the extra parliamentary lefts *actual plan* outside of the party" bearing in mind that electorally in this country left wing parties have had very little success even at the height of membership for groups like the Communist Party. Pretty much the only concrete thing I see getting much traction is people getting involved in ACORN since housing is an issue that cuts across a lot of people right now, but that's the sort of actual concrete plan the left outside of Labour needs.
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Sep 25, 2020 11:55
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Grey Hunter posted:My only issue with this is why then keep it in the spotlight for so long - after a couple of years you can slink off into the shadows and let everyone forget. I think there was the argument that, once it happened they got into the spotlight, and then could never really leave it without it being deemed suspicious. Now I’ll admit that I was one of the people who for years thought the parents were involved, but now it just looks like it was the tragic reality that there was a sexual predator in the area who abducted it. (If what the German authorities are saying is “we found DNA evidence/records of her in a house in Germany and this proves she is dead.”) Along with the tragedy that the police messed up the investigation and it took over a decade for the real culprit to be found.
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Sep 25, 2020 11:59
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I quit but they're still getting some of my money through unison. Don't know how I'd go about changing that but it's dozens of pennies a month
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Sep 25, 2020 12:01
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the sex ghost posted:I make fun of conspiracy people but I can empathise due to the absolute clarity with which I understand the fact that they sedated her so they could sneak out for a couple of beers and then came back and they'd accidentally OD'd her and panicked and hid the body and blamed the nearest swarthy person, and the fact that no person in authority can see this the thing is this is/was the obvious explanation rather than a man who spends all day tweeting angrily at the tv he's watching while Leader of the Free World is in fact taking down secret pedo rings despite his good friendship with the biggest ever known child sex trafficker
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Sep 25, 2020 12:10
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Continuity RCP posted:I quit but they're still getting some of my money through unison. Don't know how I'd go about changing that but it's dozens of pennies a month
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Sep 25, 2020 12:13
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the sex ghost posted:I make fun of conspiracy people but I can empathise due to the absolute clarity with which I understand the fact that they sedated her so they could sneak out for a couple of beers and then came back and they'd accidentally OD'd her and panicked and hid the body and blamed the nearest swarthy person, and the fact that no person in authority can see this i dont find that explanation any more compelling than the official story. you're saying they oversedated her and rather thansay she got hold of the pills thinking they were sweets, they carried her dead body out of the complex, hid it somewhere and kept it in the news for a decade? grow up 007
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Sep 25, 2020 12:20
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I've a simple rule of thumb for when I'll leave labour: I'll do it when corbyn does I feel like in the wake of the recent fuckery, if Momentum, Corbyn and the unions all simultaneously pulled support for Labour and started their own party, the atmosphere is right for it to slowly build into a major, popular movement. It won't always be, and the unions probably need to take advantage of the window of goodwill Covid has provided before sir Keith turns on them next. There again I'm sure that's what Change UK were thinking when they jumped ship. And thanks to entryism, even if you named it the 'behead the rich, no right wingers' party, you'd simply have a Lionel Hutz joke in waiting. Also Galloway would probably somehow get himself involved. I don't think it would reach even coalition viability in the next few election cycles, but then what's the alternative? Wait for a leftist candidate to sneak past PLP wreckers again? Hope sir Keith realises how badly he's polling relative to a government everyone loving hates and changes tack? There aren't a lot of good options right now.
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Sep 25, 2020 12:22
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Weetman is starting a podcast on behalf of her trash heap pundit site, We are Lit. Just incase anyone is interested and wants to escalate the Weetman hate.
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Sep 25, 2020 12:29
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Jose posted:the thing is this is/was the obvious explanation rather than a man who spends all day tweeting angrily at the tv he's watching while Leader of the Free World is in fact taking down secret pedo rings despite his good friendship with the biggest ever known child sex trafficker That qanon stuff is more or less the simplest and most obvious was of reconciling the feelings ‘I support Trump’ and “I hate rich pedos’ with the facts relating to Trump, Epstein and underage girls. The fact that it is so complex and bizarre is a consequence of the starting assumptions. As long as you keep those, there are no new facts it can’t respond to by simply getting weirder. A random middle class couple in a foreign country being able to spontaneously hide a child’s body so well it has never been found is pretty much as wierd as things get. So what are the assumptions driving that? Realistically, either the McCanns pre-planned Maddy’s murder for some reason, or she was abducted.
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Sep 25, 2020 12:35
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https://twitter.com/thepoliticsund1/status/1309425403560374272?s=20
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Sep 25, 2020 12:37
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I thought 5 a year still seemed very high but then saw this reply https://twitter.com/HeftyLeftie/status/1309437161318551553?s=20 Are brave fallen bobbies
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Sep 25, 2020 12:42
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Please can we stop posting about weetman, every time I see a tweet my blood pressure spikes
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Sep 25, 2020 12:42
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One of the candidates for General Secretary of Unison wants to break away from blindly backing Labour, to the point of standing candidates against centre/right Labour candidates in elections, but I can't see him being voted in.
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Sep 25, 2020 12:45
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peanut- posted:I thought 5 a year still seemed very high but then saw this reply Could argue that the stress of the job drove them to illness but that's true of pretty much any job in this capitalist hellscape.
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Sep 25, 2020 12:48
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Convex posted:Please can we stop posting about weetman, every time I see a tweet my blood pressure spikes Seconded
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