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fatherofmustard posted:Who's the best Generation Z (people born from 1997-present) wrestler? Its probably Tyler Bate if youre looking for most well rounded with the output and record
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Sep 26, 2020 01:01
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didn't he retire?
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Sep 26, 2020 01:35
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fatherofmustard posted:Who's the best Generation Z (people born from 1997-present) wrestler? I was gonna say Kaito Kiyomiya or Sareee but I guess they both just make the millennial cut being born in 1996. I guess I'll go with Asuka/Veny. Put her in a singles match and she's gonna knock it out of the park. She's really really good at thinking on her feet too, there's been a few times where she's covered for something going wrong in a match that it almost looked like it was meant to happen.
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Sep 26, 2020 01:50
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momo watanabe def has this rn imo
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Sep 26, 2020 04:10
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wato
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Sep 26, 2020 04:25
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Probably someone in the Dragon Gate dojo. Of guys currently being featured, Kota Minoura and Dragon Dia are working very hard to make a name for themselves.
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Asuka is a very good shout for best Generation Z wrestler - I think it also helps that she's getting a very strong push in a few places at the moment while most wrestlers her age are still on the way up and that also can help people look better. Its almost certainly a Joshi wrestler or someone in Mexico (or possibly Dragon Gate: I don't watch it but I hear they have a few good young boys at the moment) JOHN CENA posted:around 2016 nxt cards basically became "pick a pwg card from two years ago" so i can see the shift starting there but even then why would you be upset at better wrestlers coming in and getting exposure. i think the worst thing to happen to NXT was going to two hours. when that happened they stopped taping back to back and as a result stopped having cohesive stories that linked up from episode to episode. i also think continuing gargano/ciampa after the new orleans match was a mistake that devalued both guys rather than elevating them and turning gargano was also a mistake considering how white hot he was as a babyface. I know this is a few days ago but I wanted to comment on that first line of this post. There are wrestling promotions I watch because they have a load of very promising rookie wrestlers who its very enjoyable to watch develop: Marvelous had three people debut in 2018 and watching them grow from being rookies and establishing their characters and expanding their in-ring abilities has been great fun: a bit part of the appeal of Gatoh Move since last August has been their last generation of rookies; watching the very quick growth of Suzu Suzuki from her debut on New Years Eve 2018 to now being Ice Ribbon's top champion a year and a half later; I could carry on giving examples but I'd be here for a while. While these promotions often have big main events with established stars I was often as interested: and in the case of Marvelous more interested in those rookies and their stories and that's where you get that emotional investment. If one day Nagayo decided to replace the rookies with all star Joshi matches with the best women in the world while it'd be "better" on paper maybe I'd be significantly less interested in those matches since my reason to invest in them is gone: and a massive part of the spirit of the promotion would also be gone. I think for some people NXT was sort of the same: part of the appeal was seeing wrestlers with no or limited pre-WWE experience develop and come up from nothing to something: and in a well booked promotion that would lead to some sort of emotional connection long term where you watch, say, Tyler Breeze debut on NXT and go through there and then when he's on the main roster he becomes Your Man there because you've seen his whole story. Replacing those people with insert 35 year old Independent wrestling star here weakens that since its probably someone that you've seen for a long time before and even if you haven't they tend to come in with their character being what it was outside WWE and so there's no real development going on. Add in the people being called up not amounting to anything which effectively punishes that investment and the wider NXT product getting significantly less... fun and more melodramatic and I entirely understand why people would see the change that you see as positive ('better wrestlers' getting more of a focus) as a very negative development. The best wrestling promotions aren't the ones that have all of the best wrestlers; its the ones that are able to use whatever roster they have effectively and make people care about what they do.
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Sep 26, 2020 10:28
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Isn't Asuka thirty-eight? That would mean she was born in '82.
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Sep 26, 2020 13:29
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Isn't Asuka thirty-eight? That would mean she was born in '82. There are two Asukas. The WWE Asuka is Kana in Japan. I don't know what the Japan Asuka goes by in the US although I think it was discussed earlier in the thread.
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Sep 26, 2020 13:34
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Shota Umino is currently very good and is a couple of years from being absolutely great. Riho is a prodigy. Jungle Boy is one of the fastest rising stars in the business.
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Sep 26, 2020 13:36
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:There are two Asukas. The WWE Asuka is Kana in Japan. I don't know what the Japan Asuka goes by in the US although I think it was discussed earlier in the thread. She was using Veny. But yeah, she was the Asuka in the amazing DDT 1 light tube death match from last year & she is far, far beyond her years.
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Sep 26, 2020 15:00
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Lamuella posted:Jungle Boy is one of the fastest rising stars in the business. Did someone get away with making up stuff on Wikipedia, or was Luke Perry really his dad?
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Sep 26, 2020 17:26
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No, that's true.
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Sep 26, 2020 17:29
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Red posted:Did someone get away with making up stuff on Wikipedia, or was Luke Perry really his dad? Luke Perry was really his dad.
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Sep 26, 2020 17:30
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Red posted:Did someone get away with making up stuff on Wikipedia, or was Luke Perry really his dad? He is legit Luke Perry's son and has talked about it a bit since signing with AEW. Luke was a big wrestling fan who used to attend PWG shows.
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Sep 26, 2020 17:32
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I heard someone reference a Chris Jericho book offhand, but didn't think to ask which one. What's the good Chris Jericho book? He seems to have several and I can't tell one from the other.
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Sep 26, 2020 17:33
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Dejan Bimble posted:I heard someone reference a Chris Jericho book offhand, but didn't think to ask which one. What's the good Chris Jericho book? He seems to have several and I can't tell one from the other. The first one is the best one.
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Sep 26, 2020 18:04
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MassRafTer posted:The first one is the best one. Thanks!
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Sep 26, 2020 18:16
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Red posted:Did someone get away with making up stuff on Wikipedia, or was Luke Perry really his dad? Really his dad, came to a whole bunch of his shows. Did this video with his billboard just before the Once Upon A Time In Hollywood premiere. https://www.instagram.com/p/B0OSu8jg39j/
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Sep 26, 2020 18:24
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E: way late
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Sep 26, 2020 18:30
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Yeah, Jungle Boy tells a funny story about being nervous about bringing his dad to a show because wrestlers are usually lovely about that kind of thing. Luke Perry does it anyway, the entire locker room is like "Holy poo poo Luke Perry" and completely ignores Jungle Boy
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Sep 26, 2020 22:58
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Someone put up a clip on Twitter a short while ago where Luke and a very young Jungle Boy were front row at a Sumnerslam, I think? It was very wholesome.
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Sep 27, 2020 01:37
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DeathChicken posted:Yeah, Jungle Boy tells a funny story about being nervous about bringing his dad to a show because wrestlers are usually lovely about that kind of thing. Luke Perry does it anyway, the entire locker room is like "Holy poo poo Luke Perry" and completely ignores Jungle Boy The best story was finding out that whenever Luke Perry was feeling down, he’d go and find his Dusty Rhodes DVD set that had one of those speakers in the box that would spit out a random Dusty saying, and just open and shut the case until he felt better. Like, imagining Luke Perry getting a call from his agent telling him he didn’t get some big Hollywood movie, him moping around for a bit, and then disappearing into another room and just hearing “FUNKY LIKE A MONKEY!” “HE GOIN TO THE PAY WINDAH!” “MAN OF THE HOUR, MAN WITH THE POWER!” suddenly erupt from seemingly nowhere is hilarious.
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Sep 27, 2020 01:46
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Red posted:Did someone get away with making up stuff on Wikipedia, or was Luke Perry really his dad? It also means that Krusty the Clown is his uncle.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:41
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Gavok posted:It also means that Krusty the Clown is his uncle. Someone has to tip off a Simpsons writer that Luke Perry's son dresses up for work like Sideshow Luke Perry.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:49
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forkboy84 posted:She was using Veny. But yeah, she was the Asuka in the amazing DDT 1 light tube death match from last year & she is far, far beyond her years. Wasn't it a thing where it was suggested the younger Asuka go by ASUKA? I seem to recall both Asukas saying on twitter that they thought it was a good solution to any confusion?
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Sep 27, 2020 03:52
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Jerusalem posted:Wasn't it a thing where it was suggested the younger Asuka go by ASUKA? I seem to recall both Asukas saying on twitter that they thought it was a good solution to any confusion? The younger Asuka is often referred to as ASUKA by English speakers whereas the WWE Asuka is often referred to as ASUKA by Japanese speakers (with the younger one being referred to with her kanji name, they use different kanji from each other but the WWE Asuka's kanji is rarely used). The tweet WWE Asuka liked was actually mine saying that she's the all caps ASUKA and not the other one. Zoomer Asuka was going 5o use VENY in America to avoid confusion but her first US booking got cancelled by COVID so she's never actually been billed as that) Next we should get an explanation of the Sin Cara/Mistico/Caristico/Mysteziz/Dragon Lee thing just in case that explanation didn't give everyone enough of a headache.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:59
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Well looks like I am the confused one then! 
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Sep 27, 2020 04:00
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jordynne grace I believe is 24? her and riho are some of the few gen z that have been champions on, to some degree, televised shows (however you want to count impact).
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Sep 27, 2020 04:17
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the answer is probably no, but is there anywhere online to get match-level stats on matches, stuff like number of kickouts / rope breaks / finishers / whatever else?
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Sep 28, 2020 17:27
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There's a guy doing it on Twitter but only for big matches
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Sep 29, 2020 03:00
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:There's a guy doing it on Twitter but only for big matches lol the internet is full of complete nerds for everything isn't there
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Sep 29, 2020 03:37
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wrong thread
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Sep 29, 2020 03:45
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Hirez posted:wrong thread 
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Sep 29, 2020 12:56
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Hirez posted:lol the internet is full of complete nerds for everything isn't there I was thinking of some sort of pro wrestling fantasy league but I'm sure as poo poo not watching everything on wwe to get stats. even just aew could be fun, but that still means taking down stat lines for each match and I don't think I'm THAT much of a nerd
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Sep 29, 2020 17:15
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What's up with Reika Saiki? She hasn't wrestled wrestled since August 2019 according to Cagematch. I know she got injured but is she done wrestling?
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Sep 30, 2020 20:52
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she signed with wrestle-1 which has since died, not sure why she hasnt turned up elsewhere in the meantime except its not like tjpw appears to be adding to its roster
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Sep 30, 2020 21:04
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She does lots of non-wrestling work and wrestling was always a secondary thing for her. The rumour going around was that her management company (the same that Hana was with before she died incidentally) aren't keen on her wrestling anymore because her last injury meant that she couldn't do a lot of the stuff she'd been signed to do for a long time and that if they have their way she'd not wrestle again: especially now she's not officially signed to any wrestling promotion so doesn't have any remaining commitments there. Even if that changes I imagine that Stardom is out because of her management company (can't imagine either side want to work with the other again); TJPW seem to be dropping a lot of the people that they signed through outside agencies so although clearly there's a good relationship there that might not be likely: and I don't know about her freelancing.
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She still has a plate in her jaw, which is why she started training specifically for bodybuilding competitions.
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