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Renfield
Feb 29, 2008
Do people still paint leather jackets ?

Cos I painted leather jackets

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Woebin
Feb 6, 2006

My Lovely Horse posted:

In the mid-2000s there was an internet radio station called Radio Ghoul School, anyone remember that? That probably did more to shape my goth music taste than all the stuff I listened to in high school (or there's a ton of overlap anyway). I still google it every now and then to see if the guy who ran it is doing anything new.

... turns he has more or less recreated it on Spotify. He used to have a lot of stuff that isn't on Spotify but based on a quick skim and past experience I strongly recommend that playlist. And it's not just a straight recreation, there's stuff like Chromatics and Glass Candy on there now too.
Hell yes, I remember that thing! Definitely got a lot of my imaginary "I listen to these bands you've never heard of" cred through that.

E:

Renfield posted:

Do people still paint leather jackets ?

Cos I painted leather jackets


I never did, but I had a messenger bag with a Red Lorry Yellow Lorry paint job that I loved. Drunkenly lost it at a festival, of course. My buddy had a Melt-Banana leather jacket though, which was the Warhol banana that was used for the cover of Velvet Underground & Nico, except melting. It was pretty great.

And, uh, I might have gone overboard on adding stuff to the classic goth playlist. Sorry and/or you're welcome.

Woebin fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Sep 18, 2020

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

Dr. Quarex posted:

I realize it is not much of a mystery why so many people associate Denny's with goths, since anywhere you could go and hang out late at night automatically has a chance of having goth cachet, but my question is why goths were not just as into Perkins and Steak 'n' Shake. Look, you can claim they were less inherently goth, but be honest and acknowledge there is nothing actually goth about Denny's beyond knowing you could find some goths there in 1997


We don't even have Denny's around here. It's only Perkins and Waffle House, and Perkins was the best late night spot in my neighborhood.

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.
Man the Detroit area is flush with late night diners, like you can't throw a stone in any direction without hitting what we call a Coney Island, you really have your pick.

Everywhere else in America feels like a food desert by comparison. The first time I found out I couldn't get non fast food burgers or breakfast food at anytime in other towns I was like "what am I supposed to eat?"

Sgt. Politeness fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Sep 18, 2020

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Renfield posted:

Do people still paint leather jackets ?

Cos I painted leather jackets



:sigh:

This is still my heavy winter jacket:

A Grand Egg
Jan 12, 2020

by Pragmatica
loving earworm garbage I have in my head for 20+ years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNxmKzPt9Tg

I spent days finding this thing just to forget it, oh and Bay Laurel, thats a band

A Grand Egg fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Sep 19, 2020

A Grand Egg
Jan 12, 2020

by Pragmatica

Renfield posted:

Do people still paint leather jackets ?

Cos I painted leather jackets



These are so loving good

I wore a denim jacket with no sleeves over my leather jacket. Had TOTAL DEATH across the top and a nuclear bomb drawn on it with patches around it. Its long gone

I still buy patched tho

A Grand Egg fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Sep 19, 2020

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.
I think I got Goth points cause I found a Bat in my house but then I lost them when I took it to an animal rescue instead of making it my familiar.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

A Grand Egg posted:

loving earworm garbage I have in my head for 20+ years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNxmKzPt9Tg


Man this song is a total in-joke among my old friends (some of whom were in bands that are linked in this thread).

snergle
Aug 3, 2013

A kind little mouse!

Renfield posted:

Do people still paint leather jackets ?

Cos I painted leather jackets



drat these are really good. if this was still in fashion you could make a fortune on etsy. Maybe you still can idk.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzTuO37zwSU

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.

snergle posted:

drat these are really good. if this was still in fashion you could make a fortune on etsy. Maybe you still can idk.

It's definitely back, I couldn't keep this poo poo in stock if I tried.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
https://youtu.be/wjrRtlulX1I

https://youtu.be/V5IOS41vePk

https://youtu.be/roxJ912UAwU

https://youtu.be/54r-XrhRd7g

and then there’s this freakin album

https://youtu.be/MrqhQ2n_Sjw

nishi koichi fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Sep 19, 2020

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

bad posts ahead!!! posted:

and then there’s this freakin album

https://youtu.be/MrqhQ2n_Sjw

is mbv a goth band? well they had a song about necrophilia, how about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGpZWLrIAwA

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



MBV before Kevin Shields was like a totally different band. Much more gothy vibe.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
Got an afternoon to kill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqaU007Ftmg

I always loved the song, but it lasts about as long as third grade.

A Grand Egg
Jan 12, 2020

by Pragmatica

Torquemada posted:

Man this song is a total in-joke among my old friends (some of whom were in bands that are linked in this thread).


Oh, its derivative as hell, corny, but I love it years later.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQ5Fv1rPaM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLEYCGeV9hs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn14Rq8sUAg



A Grand Egg fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Sep 22, 2020

A Grand Egg
Jan 12, 2020

by Pragmatica


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em9kGPMtOmg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxFLi1FVek4

If goth Bowie made a musical, thats Rozz Williams


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tokUmuWRU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ONLbw2QGI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQZ-6b1n-mU

A Grand Egg fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Sep 22, 2020

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Dec 28, 2007

Kiss this and hang

Renfield posted:

Do people still paint leather jackets ?

Cos I painted leather jackets



Yup. Here is one I did for my husband Lo These Many Years ago. We thought it had been stolen, but then found it in one of those suit protector luggage things.

https://imgur.com/1d6arPl


blah can't make the pic post..not enough coffee I guess. The jacket still had the clove smell and some ear protection in the inner pocket :3

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang posted:

Yup. Here is one I did for my husband Lo These Many Years ago. We thought it had been stolen, but then found it in one of those suit protector luggage things.

https://imgur.com/1d6arPl


blah can't make the pic post..not enough coffee I guess. The jacket still had the clove smell and some ear protection in the inner pocket :3

That's dope. Also, nice forums handle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKE_AmZZT98

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzpFymqOVTU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlSsfhRL36I

MattO
Oct 10, 2003

wade paid a guy to paint a DRI Violent Pacification theme on his leather jacket and he would tell all the girls he painted it himself then I gave him such a bad haircut he wore a bandana to shows till it grew back. at a GBH show someone yanked it off his head and he almost cried

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Dec 28, 2007

Kiss this and hang

Pour a 40 out for the Girly Swirly lovers out there..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17JCxNhp4TI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbaKEt5BtHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INJ1A5R4nbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzRlMld3AAs

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Punk checking in. At first I was scared off by the very stern goth gf warning, but I've worked up the courage now.

Obviously I like the early Cure and Siouxsie and the Banshees. Type O Negative has a few cool songs, though they're a bit too plodding for my tastes.

A band I listened to as a teenager (and still do on occasion) is The Birthday Massacre. That counts, right? The name alone. What subgenre is that? I really dig that sound and I don't know any other bands like that.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Phlegmish posted:

Punk checking in. At first I was scared off by the very stern goth gf warning, but I've worked up the courage now.

Obviously I like the early Cure and Siouxsie and the Banshees. Type O Negative has a few cool songs, though they're a bit too plodding for my tastes.

A band I listened to as a teenager (and still do on occasion) is The Birthday Massacre. That counts, right? The name alone. What subgenre is that? I really dig that sound and I don't know any other bands like that.

The Birthday Massacre have a little bit of darkwave in there for sure. They're fun. They come with a large side of cheese but some time that's okay. I like them more when they lean into their pop side, they're not very convincing when they try to be heavy or angry.

Honestly struggling to think who else sounds particularly like them. They sound like a teeny, sugared-up Chromatics to me sometimes. I always thought this Sky Ferreria song sounded like a Birthday Massacre song:

https://youtu.be/_L7pwKv6P7M

When they bring out the crunchy guitars I get a bit of Jack Off Jill from them:

https://youtu.be/jsALQ548VUY

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Sep 24, 2020

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
https://twitter.com/carlinspace/status/1309251977763667969?s=20

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/bransonreese/status/1052250700737056768?lang=en

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



Are goths nowadays to cool to like the Pixies? I seem to recall Doolittle and Surfer Rosa being in the record collection of every gothish person I ever met. Or at least they had the t-shirt. Pixies were a nice gateway to other great stuff on the 4AD label too.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Ralph Hurley posted:

Are goths nowadays to cool to like the Pixies? I seem to recall Doolittle and Surfer Rosa being in the record collection of every gothish person I ever met. Or at least they had the t-shirt. Pixies were a nice gateway to other great stuff on the 4AD label too.

pretty sure Black Francis was goth adjacent at some point in his life. he even wrote a song about it.

i was lookin' handsome/she was looking like an erotic vulture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6gVFdIMfrU

sandro
Oct 26, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8INeCVLvLjY

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Dec 28, 2007

Kiss this and hang

uber_stoat posted:

pretty sure Black Francis was goth adjacent at some point in his life. he even wrote a song about it.

i was lookin' handsome/she was looking like an erotic vulture


I always thought there should be a cover band called The Voluptuous Horror of Frank Black.

cheers if you get that

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Ralph Hurley posted:

Are goths nowadays to cool to like the Pixies? I seem to recall Doolittle and Surfer Rosa being in the record collection of every gothish person I ever met. Or at least they had the t-shirt. Pixies were a nice gateway to other great stuff on the 4AD label too.

Listen to whatever you want and punch anyone giving you poo poo for your taste

e: I actually only really checked out the Pixies for the first time a few years ago, they're good. During the same period I also gave Sonic Youth a thorough listen, and I didn't like them at all. It all just sounded like aimless noodling to me. With the sole exception of their incredible Hey Joe cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUbN0DlkINs

Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Sep 25, 2020

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Disco Pope posted:

The Birthday Massacre have a little bit of darkwave in there for sure. They're fun. They come with a large side of cheese but some time that's okay. I like them more when they lean into their pop side, they're not very convincing when they try to be heavy or angry.

Honestly struggling to think who else sounds particularly like them. They sound like a teeny, sugared-up Chromatics to me sometimes. I always thought this Sky Ferreria song sounded like a Birthday Massacre song:

https://youtu.be/_L7pwKv6P7M

When they bring out the crunchy guitars I get a bit of Jack Off Jill from them:

https://youtu.be/jsALQ548VUY

Yeah, otherwise they're pretty unique, right? Synth-heavy, distorted guitars, wistful sound, goth themes. I've always loved this song, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7YIJSaJzs

One of their most well-known songs, also a banger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyJ8IywDvxA

And their Tiffany cover lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMyAbg6CWQ

They just own, if there were more bands like this I'd be all over them.

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYlWgn7WpuY

This is the best cover ever. Including the Johnny Cash version of Hurt.


I was never an artist, I just painted 40k minis,
Jackets are a piece of piss to paint - lay it out flat and mark it out in Chalk (Normal blackboard chalk) - so it can be rubbed out and got *just* right
Use thick craft-y acrylic paint and just paint Over the chalk.

Black and White designs are easy Colours are much harder.


edit:
also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MueKVN6gtG0


and


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkvxHwxO87c
(which has been in head all day, witch is odd since I've not heard it for at least a decade)

Renfield fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Sep 25, 2020

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
I think we’ve both been at the same gigs once or twice.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Going through some of the links in here and I keep forgetting that Front 242 is not only a Flemish band, but also from a town near me. And they say Aarschot is useless

e: btw this is my favorite Siouxsie and the Banshees song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm2Tp95Ff0M

e2: Now don't crucify me for posting a Talking Heads song, but I've always really liked this song for being wistful and up-tempo at the same time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsccjsW8bSY

That bassline is so simple and repetitive, but still so effective for that. It's synth but you can approximate it pretty easily if you play the bass, was one of the first basslines I learned


It's from 2018 but sounds like a Joy Division contemporary. I like it, has some sting to it

Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Sep 25, 2020

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

A Grand Egg posted:

These are so loving good

I wore a denim jacket with no sleeves over my leather jacket. Had TOTAL DEATH across the top and a nuclear bomb drawn on it with patches around it. Its long gone

I still buy patched tho


I like these patches. I'll have to post some of mine, later.

I'm the guy that's into ska that comes to metal shows. So, it's a flock of ravens, and a dude wearing bright clothes punctuated with checkerboard in the pit. Essentially, that one meme with Jim Carrey. It feels like there's always one of us, though. There was some overlap with the ska/punk/goth communities when I was a lad.

I enjoy the trope of the cheery goth and punk, as well. I've met so many, and they are dear.


... I miss shows. :smith:

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

Torquemada posted:

I think we’ve both been at the same gigs once or twice.

If you where at any of the Nemesis Promotions gigs at the Camden Underworld in the 90s (Which was pretty much any goth gig on a Sunday), I was in the DJ pit doing the lights :)

It's weird how there was almost no crossover between the clubbing crowd and the live music one.

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006

I know I'm an outlier, but The Rapture is my favorite Siouxsie album. It just makes me happy 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO-LA8Pk4dg



On a different note, who else was reading a bunch of goth webcomics back in the day? I remember two that I was into.

Deeply Creepy was, as far as I remember, about some folks running a goth club. I might actually be straight-up conflating the name of one comic with the premise of another one here, I'm not sure. Anyway I just remember two of its strips, one being a tribute to Johnny Cash when he died and one going like this:
Character 1 (a woman, I think?): "Play some Einstrürzende Neubauten, I need to break these new boots in."
Character 2 (the DJ): "These people can't dance to Neubauten!"
Hilarious. Anyway that was the first time I heard of Einstrürzende, who I came to love with all my heart, so... thanks, probably-mediocre goth comic!

Nice Hair was a roomie sitcom about Robert Smith (usually referred to as "Fat Bob", except when he started doing meth and got skinny), Andrew Eldritch and Tim Burton living together. I don't remember much, but I think Robert was mostly sad, Andrew was mostly a big old jerk and Tim had Johnny Depp in all his Burton roles as his imaginary friend and/or monster under the bed. There was also a lot of homoeroticism, which was nice for young Woebin and her teenage self-discovery.

I feel like there was a third one I liked a lot but absolutely cannot remember. Anyway what about you lot?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

gently caress yes, Neubauten. Been on a kick lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H2bYIEAFsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd8O8wG5cJI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrBTM42DNzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGFqpjqqGC0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-z3ayNDo3Y

Bonus: Here is Blixa Bargeld cooking risotto on German TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdBrATEMPjM

(full show, but without subtitles)

Bonus #2: Here is Blixa Bargeld reading the product descriptions from a home improvement store catalogue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kdLmXRmEec

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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

How do you goths feel about gothic literature?

I read Wuthering Heights and found it to be awful. Horrible people doing horrible things to one another all described horribly in a horrible writing style. Yet it is considered a great tragic love story. gently caress that noise.

I also read a short story/novella by a famous American writer in a similar style about some poor married bloke who falls in love with his wife's niece, and she with him, in some bleak snowy little town. In the end they try to commit suicide by sledding into a tree, but only end up crippling themselves, and the end is the niece, wife and husband all living together, crippled bitter, and poorer than they were because he can't work as well now his body is all banged up and old. Again, supposedly this was a great tragic goth love story. Sorry I cannot remember the name of author or story.

Wuthering Heights the song however is a banger. Kate Bush is cool and talented. Though I dunno how gothy her cred is.

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