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Bobstar posted:Twisto real identity confirmed? Lol I wish, Tom Scott has what would pretty much my dream job. Besides he doesn't talk about trains or London nearly enough, I'm probably somewhere in the middle of a triangle formed by him, Jay Foreman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T_0FYHn0I0&t=316s (Video cued up on one of the buildings I used in my council house history post, conspiracy fans!) and Geoff Marshall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBTvmrRGlbE e: With a bit of Techmoan and Big Clive mixed in but I don't really talk about that stuff here because it never really comes up goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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Jose posted:nothing fascist at all about this So question about the idea that "victim narratives" not be taught. Does that mean that the British Empire and it's involvement with the slave trade has to be presented as a good thing? That people in the colonies were given an education. And that the Irish people died from potatoe blight.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:How does the legality of locking up 1000 or so adults in their rented accommodation work? Like are there any other private blocks of flats where every single flat is being locked down and its inhabitants forced to self isolate even if only a few of the individual flats have people with symptoms? Also aside from that going to the pub for an adult is legal provided you follow all the rules, who is some university to dictate to students that they can't do that? Seems a bit like before the rule of 6 when they told us to only meet in groups of 6 but it wasn't actually the law but they didn't tell us that. I believe it's not against the law for them to leave, but it is apparently legal for the university to punish students with expulsion if they disobey, making them pretty much forced to. unless they don't mind applying again next year and spending a year with no money etc. Guavanaut posted:Section 28 2: Trans Edition The "fun" thing here is that in their own ignorance of what trans people are actually saying, they've just banned their imaginary strawman of trans ideology that comes from years of media oversimplification: i.e. children are born in the wrong body, they are trans because they play with different toys and like different clothes. this is a total distortion of what being trans actually is borne out of cis people trying to find a nice metaphor for it without actually learning what gender identity is. and maybe even if you're lucky a single trans person shrugging and going "uh, yeah, i guess that's sort of like what I just said". though maybe if we do try to tell kids what being trans really is the adults will just interpret it as saying the above and try to ban it anyway. in summary, consult this handy diagram that has been around the transgender community for some time 
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That's not too dissimilar to Section 28's "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship", in that it's a (possibly deliberate) misinterpretation of what gay and bi people actually wanted, but had the end result of scaring teachers away from talking about gay and bi existence at all.The Question IRL posted:So question about the idea that "victim narratives" not be taught. I literally remember "the camps in South Africa were different from Nazi death camps because the deaths weren't deliberate" in school history, so it's not new.
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The Question IRL posted:So question about the idea that "victim narratives" not be taught. They also banned no-platforming apparently, according to the comments. How does that square with the bans on working with external organisations that promote divisive opinions I don't know.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Lol I wish, Tom Scott has what would pretty much my dream job. Besides he doesn't talk about trains or London nearly enough, I'm probably somewhere in the middle of a triangle formed by him, Jay Foreman: Oh god, you need to start a channel then. Seriously, that's the half of my youtube subs that's not about gender or anarcho-communism right there.
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The Question IRL posted:So question about the idea that "victim narratives" not be taught. Lol if you think schools are teaching Britain's involvement in the slave trade or the Irish potato famine/genocide to start with. Pretty sure it's still TUDORS TUDORS TUDORS ww1 very sad WW2 VERY GOOD
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NotJustANumber99 posted:How does the legality of locking up 1000 or so adults in their rented accommodation work? Like are there any other private blocks of flats where every single flat is being locked down and its inhabitants forced to self isolate even if only a few of the individual flats have people with symptoms? Also aside from that going to the pub for an adult is legal provided you follow all the rules, who is some university to dictate to students that they can't do that? Seems a bit like before the rule of 6 when they told us to only meet in groups of 6 but it wasn't actually the law but they didn't tell us that. At the bare minimum, I'd like to think that some universities are going to see their reputation get wrecked by the way they're ratfucking a bunch of students. I also can't believe that the universities are doing everything in a legal manner, so I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting sued.
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Guavanaut posted:SinoVac vaccine should be ready by February or March next year. A slide I saw on Friday from SOURCES suggests in fact Pfizer will be the first to 150 events, and theyve had the fastest recruitment. The mRNA-ness of their thing might give them a production handicap though.
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Jose posted:nothing fascist at all about this This kind of stuff really wants to make me get into teaching to try and stop this poo poo from happening. Private Speech posted:They also banned no-platforming apparently, according to the comments. https://twitter.com/SpeechUnion/status/1309449077940277251?s=19 Lungboy fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Lol I wish, Tom Scott has what would pretty much my dream job. Besides he doesn't talk about trains or London nearly enough, I'm probably somewhere in the middle of a triangle formed by him, Jay Foreman: Hah I had the same "theory" with Jay Foreman, but he's too young and Scott's too not-southern, if I'm hearing his accent right (I am bad at British accents). I am enjoying their videos in the quiet periods at work though.
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Failed Imagineer posted:A slide I saw on Friday from SOURCES suggests in fact Pfizer will be the first to 150 events, and theyve had the fastest recruitment. The mRNA-ness of their thing might give them a production handicap though.  I've also been expecting/hoping that the SinoVac one will be first to mass vaccinate people who need it. Possibly not with the noblest of intentions, given the empire building in Africa, but you know Trump (or Biden for that matter) isn't going to let any of the delicious BNT162s off of US soil.
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So no "cancelling" or any attacks on free speech, unless it's anything negative about the UK, capitalism, or anything related to that?
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Guavanaut posted:I've been expecting that one of the US ones would get approval first, so that they can plant the flag first and win at Operation Warp Speed Well Pfizer have deals with the UK and CAN at least, although they're probably as rock-solid as a Brexit Withdrawal Agreement. Agreed with the point on Chinese altruism-as-imperialism though - maybe they'll loan a few hundred million doses in exchange for seaports and pipeline rights
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Does teaching that censorship is harmful to society extend to discussing super injunctions, using recent examples?
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forbidden to teach in schools: - promotion of non-democratic political systems required to teach in schools: - it is bad to seek to have people removed from a position of authority because you disagree with them
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Well this was fun this morning https://twitter.com/ROMANSE/status/1309803825965019141 Though I question the wisdom of shutting the westbound stretch of the A27 under the A3 junction, because it was forcing all of the traffic up onto that junction only to go back onto the westbound A27 to the start of the actual proper closure. I think the idea was to divert people up the A3 and then the A2030 but the signposting was stupidly bad
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oh dear I sure hope no one colonises this dumb island with altruism, I would hate to be forced to have a better life that sounds awful
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This schools poo poo is inevitable when you consider that a huge proportion of the culture war is boomers’ resentment towards their children and grandchildren. They want to stop the torrent of “antifa snowflakes“ being produced. I suppose the silver lining is that this poo poo simply doesn’t work in the longer run. Section 28 failed miserably in its wider goal of stopping a generation of people who thought that being gay was okay (unfortunately it succeeded in its more limited goals of getting gay kids bullied and acquiescing to bigots). Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:A slide I saw on Friday from SOURCES suggests in fact Pfizer will be the first to 150 events, and theyve had the fastest recruitment. The mRNA-ness of their thing might give them a production handicap though. Super interesting. I had thought that using mRNA in nanoliposomes made it much easier to scale than viral vector production... though I vaguely remember that AZ have a continuous process for the adenovirus which sounds like a big improvement (from the viral vectors I've been involved with a big cost driver is that the producer cells just die after the virions are released so it's very much a batch process). Where I am the government has gone all-in on the Moderna vaccine so looks like there won't be a choice, unless my employer decides they're going to supply it I guess.
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Failed Imagineer posted:The mRNA-ness of their thing might give them a production handicap though. the main bottleneck is manufacturing all the tiny molecular fedoras
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knox_harrington posted:Remind me again why a maximum voting age is unethical? Why stop there?
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Jose posted:nothing fascist at all about this I might be grasping at silver linings here, but I wonder if this pile of poo poo of a guidance can actually be used for anything good, with sufficient skills in legalese and demagogy that is. Eg, nipping stuff like anti-muslim and anti-black rhetoric in the bud (no discrimination!), or stopping promotion of white genocide bullshit (no "victim narratives"!), or not associating with people like Boris Johnson and the Conservative party (they sorta fit most of the stated organizational "extreme positions").
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No victim narratives I say, while I teach that nazi germany must have had a reason for doing the holocaust.
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Angepain posted:I believe it's not against the law for them to leave, but it is apparently legal for the university to punish students with expulsion if they disobey, making them pretty much forced to. unless they don't mind applying again next year and spending a year with no money etc. Possibly no tuition fee loan either, don't you only get one shot at it?
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If the state sees cancelling as violence it is entirely on brand to claim the monopoly on it
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Guavanaut posted:I literally remember "the camps in South Africa were different from Nazi death camps because the deaths weren't deliberate" in school history, so it's not new. I mean, they were different from vernichtunslager. There is a moral difference between not giving a poo poo if people die and e.g. setting up an intentional industrial machine with the explicit aim of wiping all Boers from the Earth. They were not different from regular Nazi concentration camps or for that matter gulags, which were still VERY BAD, is what we should be teaching there.
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Sure, but by the point that you've got someone like Cecil Rhodes who wants to ethnically cleanse the continent and replace the population with white Brits, and you have work camps so appallingly run thatquote:According to him incomplete and in many cases non-existent British records and the fact that many civilians died outside of the camps, caused the final death toll to be higher . The average official death rate, caused by medical neglect, exposure, infectious diseases and malnutrition inside the camps was 350 per thousand per annum, peaking at 436 per thousand per annum in certain Free State camps. Eighty-one percent of the fatalities were children. So yeah, I agree, schools should be teaching about all those different types of bad.
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EvilHawk posted:Lol if you think schools are teaching Britain's involvement in the slave trade or the Irish potato famine/genocide to start with. I thought that they had to start teaching that stuff, after they got embarrassed by the number of international stories that went "British kids think Colonial past was Aces...then showed all the bad stuff they did."
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The Question IRL posted:I thought that they had to start teaching that stuff, after they got embarrassed by the number of international stories that went "British kids think Colonial past was Aces...then showed all the bad stuff they did." I mean there was a LOT of bad stuff so it's hard to fit it in. I think we did the Amritsar massacre in GCSE, mumble years ago, that's about it.
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peanut- posted:What? Which test results can be input into the app then? 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Lol I wish, Tom Scott has what would pretty much my dream job. Besides he doesn't talk about trains or London nearly enough, I'm probably somewhere in the middle of a triangle formed by him, Jay Foreman: My theory was that this was your Youtube channel as the fellow knows way to many obscure facts about London https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rmcX1Um0P4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Csr7eybRw
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Guavanaut posted:Sure, but by the point that you've got someone like Cecil Rhodes who wants to ethnically cleanse the continent Is this true? I always understood European imperialism to be genocidal in a slightly different way to Nazi Germany in that Rhodes et al wanted to establish British (or French or whatever) dominance over an obedient racialised servant class, rather than eradicate them entirely. Displacement of the local powers that be sure, but not wholesale death camp stuff - just state terrorism via good old concentration camp. Like, I picture their overall goal as being one of those lords from racist old films who sit on their golden throne being wafted by impossibly beautiful attendants with big leaf fans. There was always a fetishisation of indigenous culture combined with a big white saviour complex, which strikes me as seeing the native populations as infantilised 'noble savages' requiring civilising and a big appropriative impulse, rather than a desire to see them all dead. Someone needed to waft the fan after all! Africa, India, and China seen distinct from the USA, Canada, and Australia in that regard - the fetishisation of local cultures as part of the process of imperialism appears to have prevented the establishment of things like extremely lovely residential school systems, and you have nothing like the same kind of complete eradication of indigenous traditions - the imperial occupants almost appear to have existed as parasites rather than open predators, probably due to their vast numerical disadvantage. I'm thinking aloud here, so take it all with a pinch of salt, but I feel like there's something worth thinking about in that. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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There were plenty of European imperialists who would be perfectly happy with that state of affairs, the Southern Plantation, but it's not slavery because, uh, we stole their land, no, we manage their land well for them, that's it. Rhodes was not one of those, his public speeches were bad enough, "The native is to be treated as a child and denied the franchise. We must adopt a system of despotism in our relations with the barbarians of South Africa." his private writings were off the wall batshit insane and dreamed of a White Africa. In reality, that would have probably looked more like apartheid (and eventually failed like apartheid), but if there's a man who would definitely have started building the crematoria when it looked like it was about to, it was him.
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feedmegin posted:Possibly no tuition fee loan either, don't you only get one shot at it? you get one year worth of do over if you fail or change your undergrad iirc
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Taking my mind off the horrorshow of the Scramble for Africa by imagining the Congo basin entirely populated by white Brits. Just year round complaining about the weather.
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Catzilla posted:My theory was that this was your Youtube channel as the fellow knows way to many obscure facts about London Lol that's uncanny, but nowhere near enough poo poo jokes to be me.
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feedmegin posted:I mean there was a LOT of bad stuff so it's hard to fit it in. I think we did the Amritsar massacre in GCSE, mumble years ago, that's about it. I certainly did in like the mid nineties. Though in particular I remember being told to write an essay from the POV of one of the soldiers who carried it out, justifying it all. Which seemed hosed up even at the time.
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