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The best space decor items are insane.  Of course by the time you get them you've probably decor-bombed all your dups anyway.
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Is it cheating to get your first plastic from that mod that lets you deconstruct the old Veritas props like desks and ladders? Oh well, too bad.
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Sep 24, 2020 13:33
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Cycle 737, but I finally sealed off my base. 
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Sep 24, 2020 14:54
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Early liquid locks are always fun on Rime because you turn your back and one of your locks is now a chuck of ice. Had to remember to thread some radiant pipe past them to keep the water warm
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Sep 24, 2020 16:59
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Fixated on the area near the core with my oil industry going up and forgot to look at the rest of the map. My main water tank got sucked dry from 2 SPOMs and a bunch of berries 
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Sep 24, 2020 17:08
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Shumagorath posted:Is it cheating to get your first plastic from that mod that lets you deconstruct the old Veritas props like desks and ladders? Oh well, too bad. Yeah, I often have this dilemma. On one hand, no I don't want to deal with indestructible furniture. On the other it the mod that allows you to deconstruct the props gives early access to steel and plastic (and subsequently lets your printer print plastic). I sometimes impose a rule on myself not to make use of steel/plastic until I've obtained it through an ordinary channel. Sometimes.
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Sep 25, 2020 02:42
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Shumagorath posted:Hell's Thermos is stable and about to get reliable oxygen going, though without having the map in TNI I would definitely be dead. It's ironic that I found the map based on natural gas output yet once I can access steel and plastic I'll be able to run the place on geothermal power alone. Just don't get greedy. I've tried those volcano maps a few times because the heat management sounds fun...only for me to crack open way too much hot rock for my first geothermal plants and have it immediately overheat. The worst were the times I would get good enough to let myself be lulled into a false sense of security because my geothermal plant lasted multiple cycles, giving me time to rip apart my old power plant and THEN the sucker would overheat. ...The race to insulate around any abyssalite gaps is actually really fun though and it's crazy how only 7-8 tiles separates "comfortably warm" from "Scalding and taking damage" temperatures.
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Sep 25, 2020 12:51
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I'll post pics but thanks to my airlock door mod I have a great opportunity for cheap power and will still be segmenting and oxygenating my main base to be able to fail open w.r.t. atmo suits. I plan to make use of all the natural gas around me but right now I need suits to move in 70% of the perimeter around my base.
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Sep 25, 2020 13:52
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What's the incubator ratio for a drecko stable? Assuming I crack excess eggs.
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Sep 25, 2020 19:27
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Shumagorath posted:What's the incubator ratio for a drecko stable? Assuming I crack excess eggs. I think the formula is life time divided by incubation time. 150/33 = 1 unpowered incubator for 4.5ish dreckos. 150/6 = 1 powered incubator for 25 dreckos.
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Sep 25, 2020 19:45
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Shadow0 posted:Can pacu survive in magma?
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Shumagorath posted:I went back several pages looking for someone's pacu hell-farm and this got me wondering: How easily could one make a super-ethical magma kill chamber? Thank you for reminding me of this. If you don't do it, I'm going to try it. If you do do it, I'm still gonna try it...
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Sep 26, 2020 09:39
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Anyone looking for a kind of ridiculous Rime Map S-FRZ-1316009818-0 6 Nueral Vacilators 2 Iron volcanos 3 AETNs (2 right next to each other) Cool slush vent
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How is everyone keeping millions of calories of food without it going off? All my ingredients sit in a co2 environment, and the resulting cooked goods are transporter to a co2 pit with powered fridges in it as food drops in if there is space it's refrigerated, otherwise it should sit in a sterile environment But I get everything eventually going off. Resulting in my 1million calories of fried mushrooms and bbq dropping to 200-300 k at some point I tried chlorine, but it doesn't seem to stay in a lit like co2. Does everything eventually decay despite the environment?
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Sep 27, 2020 22:20
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Roundboy posted:How is everyone keeping millions of calories of food without it going off? check for PO2 floating around which adds the "pollution exposure" modifier. Otherwise I've had food sit in CO2 forever and never saw any of it rot away
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Sep 28, 2020 00:39
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LegoMan posted:check for PO2 floating around which adds the "pollution exposure" modifier. Otherwise I've had food sit in CO2 forever and never saw any of it rot away Also worth noting that if food goes off, then it starts offgassing polluted oxygen, which makes more food rot, which makes more PO2... It can help to have a deeper pit of CO2 (3 tiles or so), and to make sure you oxygen pressure is high enough that the CO2 won't escape.
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my design was attempting to store my edible food right outside the great hall, so it would minimize travel. i thought dupes walking iver it would keep the co2 topped off, and the fridge would help even more Ripped it all out, and I have the output shipping vent in a single vaccum tile right outside the same hall. They can diagonally reach it and continue into the mess tables to eat. I haven't had a norice in a while now. It was getting absurd. 8 full hatch ranches producing eggs --> meat. and a 20 critter shove vole ranch also producing eggs into a drowing chamber. I was getting so much bbq (1 mil+) then it would al decay and i was hitting 0 calories at a couple points. i have hit space and lunched before, but this i the first time i got as far as chemical rockets, and i just brought home enough space materials to make a liquid o2 and h2 plant, so i'll see how that rolls. none of the planets up to the 40k ring have isoresin, so i hope i didnt need the really good insulation. Viscogel would be nice
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Roundboy posted:But I get everything eventually going off. Resulting in my 1million calories of fried mushrooms and bbq dropping to 200-300 k at some point I tried chlorine, but it doesn't seem to stay in a lit like co2. Does everything eventually decay despite the environment? You don't need to refrigerate food in sterile atmosphere, it never spoils. Just use unpowered refrigerators or dump it on the floor. Chlorine's main advantage is it kills food poisoning, so even if some germs get into your food/water it doesn't matter. If it spoiled then your pit wasn't sterile - a drop of water on the floor where the refrigerator is or a square of oxygen floating about can ruin your storage, even faster if it's polluted water/oxygen.
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Sep 28, 2020 09:43
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is electricity packetized under the hood? i was trying to figure out wtf was wrong with an air cooler this morning, the aquatuner kept saying No Power even though it was on conductive wire off two transformers backed by massive energy supplies, and total potential was <2kW. Putting a battery on the cooler circuit - so the wrong side of the transformer - fixed the problem, but I don't understand why it was necessary.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:08
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Pyromancer posted:You don't need to refrigerate food in sterile atmosphere, it never spoils. Just use unpowered refrigerators or dump it on the floor. Chlorine's main advantage is it kills food poisoning, so even if some germs get into your food/water it doesn't matter. is food in a powered refrigerator completely safe from spoilage in any atmosphere? I'm right drat tired of the pressures getting messed up and the Unrefrigerated Food alert continually dis/reappearing as one tile of O2 bobbles around again
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Sep 28, 2020 19:08
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Ciaphas posted:is electricity packetized under the hood?
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Sep 28, 2020 19:26
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Ciaphas posted:is electricity packetized under the hood? If you have a smart battery controlling your main generators, it needs to tell them to come on when it's 10-20% full, otherwise it'll run down to zero, switch everything off for a tick and only then switch on the generators. It's either that or some of your generators have entered an intermittent fail state.
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Aethernet posted:If you have a smart battery controlling your main generators, it needs to tell them to come on when it's 10-20% full, otherwise it'll run down to zero, switch everything off for a tick and only then switch on the generators. It's either that or some of your generators have entered an intermittent fail state. The power plant battery is set to 90/60, haven't seem a reason to do anything else yet. Good thing these generators don't have ramp-up or shutdown losses  What I now see I forgot to mention this morning is the loss of power to the aquatuner was sporadic. It'd stay on a while then turn off - which made it sure LOOK like a brownout, but everything else on the circuit was fine. No overloads, mixed wires, empty batteries, broken generators -- nothin'  All the heavy wires here are on the main spine. When I was having the problem this morning, the battery you can see next to the transformers wasn't there (but the conductive wire was). Soon as I added the battery the problem vanished; haven't been able to reproduce it yet. Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 23:08
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Ciaphas posted:The power plant battery is set to 90/60, haven't seem a reason to do anything else yet. Good thing these generators don't have ramp-up or shutdown losses IIRC It doesn’t matter if you have two small transformers like that, they’ll only supply 1kw on that downstream end which is below the tuners needs. The fact it worked at all is the transformers have a small internal battery. The battery is fixing that with its backup capacity. Switch that pair to a large transformer. Mazz fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 23:23
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Well that's bloody irritating, those stupid things put 4k on a 2k wire so I have to add up every consumer on that circuit if I don't want overloads  (e) or... hover over the wire and read the tooltip that's been in my face for 50 hours now 
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Sep 28, 2020 23:39
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I might be wrong there are posts out there saying to use 2 smalls like that and it should work but I feel like I had similar problems to that before. I’m not at a place I can check. EDIT: Large transformers will not put 4kw into the 2kw wire unless the active draw is that much, and that line will absolutely not exceed that given what’s in that photo. I have like 40 total potential kilowatts drawing from 5-6 transformers, they feed 4 branch lines that are regular conductive wire downstream. It all depends on active draw per line. 
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Sep 28, 2020 23:42
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Two transformers is the way to get keep exactly 2kw on an overloaded conductive circuit.
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Pyromancer posted:You don't need to refrigerate food in sterile atmosphere, it never spoils. Just use unpowered refrigerators or dump it on the floor. Chlorine's main advantage is it kills food poisoning, so even if some germs get into your food/water it doesn't matter. I had mine go off once due to changing pressures, so I just toss a deodorizer on the edge of the pit to kill any polluted O2 that forms, and store the food under a level that's high traffic with some air flow tiles above it so even if it loses some CO2 at some point it refills on it's own naturally.
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Re: Transformer chat So rather then switching to large transformers, running conductive wire, and 'wasting' the potential of 2kw of power, people build two small transformers, and just link them together to get exactly the capacity of conductive wire? I realized I was leaving capacity on the table, and decades running heavy conductive wire to my stuff, but I have too many breaks in walls, etc that would need a joint plate.
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Ciaphas posted:is food in a powered refrigerator completely safe from spoilage in any atmosphere? I'm right drat tired of the pressures getting messed up and the Unrefrigerated Food alert continually dis/reappearing as one tile of O2 bobbles around again It'll still spoil in polluted water or polluted oxygen even when refrigerated, but other than those two refrigeration will keep food freshness stable. Pyromancer fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Sep 29, 2020 |
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Sep 29, 2020 06:21
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Transformers have an internal battery, I'm not sure how fast they charge or drain, but that might be an issue. Two small transformers is pretty good, just remember they generate twice as much heat. I usually only use them for circuits with intermittent-use items like sweepers. Another strategy for food is to have a sealed off pit accessible only to a sweeper that refills a fridge the dupes can reach. I have my food hole at the end of a room with a tall lip. Dupes never cross over it or anything.
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Radio posted:Two transformers is the way to get keep exactly 2kw on an overloaded conductive circuit. Sure wish I knew why not having that battery made the aquatuner so sporadic, then; that drove me nuts trying to troubleshoot
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New question since I'm in here: when is it  a good time to breach space and start building up there? I have all the research tree done, have steel & plastic, food is stable, water is seemingly stable for now but I've got a steam vent to tame first. 10 dupes, right around cycle 200 atm.
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Accidentally venting your atmosphere into space is amazing and everyone should do it at least once
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Ciaphas posted:New question since I'm in here: when is it if you build a ghetto setup you can launch a steam rocket or 3 to pick up some early space materials, which makes an industrial brick or further space setup WAY easier
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Hello Sailor posted:Accidentally venting your atmosphere into space is amazing and everyone should do it at least once you'll forgive me if i save first, but yeah that does sound like a good lol (e: i just imagined building a temporary SAFETY CUBE for the dupes and locking em in with food & needs while the rest of the asteroid (including the rest of the original base) is vacuumed clean of stray chlorine, nat gas, etc; and later replacing it all with plain old O2. This air will be clean) Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Sep 29, 2020 |
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Ciaphas posted:you'll forgive me if i save first, but yeah that does sound like a good lol that's pretty much how I have my entire living setup. A square large enough for 20 bedrooms (I only have 14 dupes and I'm already getting nervous) with checkpoint going in and a waterlock preventing my ultra pure oxygen atmosphere from leaking out. I'm thinking of switching to a pod system so that every dupe has their own checkpoint with the only communal entrances being to the recreation area.
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I still haven't exhausted even half my bootstrapped supply of plastic, so I never bothered to set up an oil refinery for petroleum. Good thing: turns out there's a volcano right under my base! I gather these are used to contain magma to make petroleum boilers, but letting loose stuff like this where a mistake could doom me 100 cycles down the line? But my weird little terrarium I've built 
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