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Zagreus spear is my favourite ranged weapon.
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Sep 27, 2020 01:55
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JBP posted:My main problem is that against bosses it feels extremely cumbersome to use versus virtually any other weapon that lets you smoothly tie together dash, dash attack and attack damage. Charge time is also time you're not using dash or cast, so the damage might appear fine, but it's nowhere near a string of attacks, dashes and specials applying three debuffs constantly. The bow secret is that the dash-attack charges up to powershot way faster than the normal "neutral" attack (in exchange for doing less damage). You should basically never charge a normal powershot without dashing first because it takes way too long, but the dash-powershot is pretty quick. Fedule posted:On the other hand, I picked Guan Yu for the last run and, like, man, never again. I don't understand it at all. The damage seems great but turned out not to be that useful, although the special was handy I guess? It's just... what's with the health thing? Why is this admittedly slightly more powerful moveset balanced in this way, as opposed to literally any other way? It was such a weird, stressful run. But on the other other hand I won that run, somehow, so, ? I think you missed the most important part of Guan Yu, which is that the spin attack has lifesteal -- you heal 1 hp per damage tick per enemy. I played one run and I'm not really a fan. The fact that the self-healing is only on one awkward-to-use move means if you're missing hp and all the ranged enemies are dead you just wanna cheese the rest of the fight with nothing but spin attacks for hp instead of playing normally and using literally any other part of your moveset. I wish it worked like the one hammer upgrade for the fists' uppercut and just healed you on kill instead. It also seems like the faster-spin-attack-charge hammer is super mandatory for it to be remotely usable. It's great for applying status though because the spin hits multiple times. I played with the Demeter boon and it was easy to get to 10 stacks of chill against anything that wasn't squishy enough to die first.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:03
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All these people making GBS threads on Heartseeker, some of you haven't put any Bloods into Chiron Aspect and it shows
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Sep 27, 2020 02:08
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:I think you missed the most important part of Guan Yu, which is that the spin attack has lifesteal -- you heal 1 hp per damage tick per enemy. I cannot stress enough that I did not miss this. I just find it extremely weird for basically the reasons given, it's slightly cumbersome if powerful, and I can work with it, except that it does this health gimmick on top of all that, which is like that one sword hammer but worse because of how much more cumbersome it is to heal (plus, does the sword hammer also damp healing?). I like the moveset and the attack, I just don't see why it's also bundled with this other thing.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:20
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Guan yu's default special is certified good but I couldn't handle higher heat levels with it at all. New Hades aspect is just too big
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Sep 27, 2020 02:25
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From what I've heard, Guan Yu was straight up broken as hell for most of Early Access, then it ate a bunch of really harsh nerfs and now it's "decent but only after pumping 15 loving bloods into the thing"
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Sep 27, 2020 02:27
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I feel like Guan Yu would be better if the health penalty was significantly lowered or if the gimmick was just dropped altogether. Though the special spin attack is pretty certifiably great damage.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:28
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Fedule posted:I thought I was going insane but it turns out the game plays a very characteristic "ding!" sound when a fishing point spawns in a room. On that note, what does it mean when you hear someone exhale after you clear all the enemies?
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Sep 27, 2020 02:38
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Pirate Jet posted:On that note, what does it mean when you hear someone exhale after you clear all the enemies? I do believe that's the sound of a centaur heart spawning but I'm going off memory here.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:39
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Had a couple more nice runs today. This one opened with the crystal cast and I decided I'd try to get some duos for it - the lightning jolted Hunter's Mark chain skewer just went nuts on top of it. And then I had One More Run, with a fist aspect I hadn't used before.  Not pictured: Draining Cutter, a Chaos boon for over +100% backstab damage, the two fountain chambers I got with Strong Drink on. Pictured: Eurydice hitting the motherfuckin' spot with an Ambrosia Delight. Not pictured: Orpheus was there, and they were singing the credits song instead of their usual duet.
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Sep 27, 2020 02:54
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Yet another run with the sword thwarted by Hades. Smashed my way through the entire game, got to Hades with 250/300 HP, three DD's, and Skelly's trinket and still wiffed it. I hate the sword.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:33
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Orange Crush Rush posted:From what I've heard, Guan Yu was straight up broken as hell for most of Early Access, then it ate a bunch of really harsh nerfs and now it's "decent but only after pumping 15 loving bloods into the thing" This is accurate. The spin attack went through pillars/obstacles. So you could stand behind them and just fire high damage healing spin attacks machine gun style to clear rooms with absolutely no danger. It ate like 10 nerfs and is now substantially worse. Wildtortilla posted:Yet another run with the sword thwarted by Hades. To state the obvious, you probably need to just slow down a bit and focus on his attack patterns. Your builds are clearly fine if you’re getting to him with that many resources left. mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Sep 27, 2020 04:00
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Finally escaped on attempt 32 with the bow. For whatever reason the bow clicks with my play style like no other weapon. I got some Doom on special and Weak on attack with the duo that inflicts constant Doom when Weak. I just stayed far away from Hades and slowly ticked him down. Feels great!
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Sep 27, 2020 04:05
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Dad is such a dick about the lounge upgrades. *gets Chef Shade some knives* "HE HAS ENOUGH UTENSILS, THANK YOU. *gets a fish tank* "I'M SORRY, BUT IS THIS MY DRUNKARD BROTHER'S REALM?" *gets green cushions for the chairs* "I loving HATE THE COLOR GREEN. THIS IS WHY I DON'T LOVE YOU."
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Sep 27, 2020 04:05
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Funky Valentine posted:Dad is such a dick about the lounge upgrades. Dad's such a sourpuss and it owns.  My favorite so far is when you commission a disco ball for the lounge and he goes "what in the actual gently caress"
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Sep 27, 2020 04:12
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I played this game for 10 hours today. It's so good
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Sep 27, 2020 04:16
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why the gently caress does he have multiple forms
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Sep 27, 2020 04:21
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Funky Valentine posted:Dad is such a dick about the lounge upgrades.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:22
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Giving Nyx some Ambrosia was pure joy. She actually laughed at a joke at dad's expense and said it was delicious. And that was just the after the first one! I love all the new bonding in 1.0
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Sep 27, 2020 04:25
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Okay my new favourite thing is getting an Epic Exit Wounds boon from Artemis while using the Poseidon Sword Aspect
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Sep 27, 2020 04:33
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Funky Valentine posted:Dad is such a dick about the lounge upgrades. *get some meat racks for the kitchen* WE SHOULD HANG YOU UP THERE
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Sep 27, 2020 04:35
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Oh wow I didn't realize the spinny shield aspect also made it loving massive and it hits like a truck with a few levels in it. This seems like it would be really good with chill or hangover!
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Sep 27, 2020 04:41
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I suuuck at this game. My new strat is just to accept it and suck my way to victory. 700 more darkness and I get another do over so I'm going for that now. 10+ upgrades and I get 4 diamonds. Then I can do more upgrades. Sounds like a plan! Choose something to help or choose something new to fill out the book? Choose something new! Unless I have a run that is going well, then I try. Otherwise I'm just focused on unlocking and surviving as long as I can. I know I met Demeter once, she's pretty rare? I googled the keepsakes to see who I was missing and see it is her, mom and thanatos. Never seen him. Is he in act 4 or something?
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Sep 27, 2020 04:42
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The first time you meet Thanatos is in Elysium but he has a comically low chance of showing up the first time. It's better after you've met him once but I was fourty five runs in before I met him.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:50
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Thanatos will first appear in Elysium eventually and after that he has a chance to show up in any zone after you've taken damage (except Styx), and if that happens he also has a good chance of showing up at the House afterwards.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:50
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He never shows up in Elite/Mini-Boss rooms so skipping those should increase your odds of running into him. Speaking of Mini-bosses, I just got the Super Butterflyball, and Zag's first response to entering this room was to sigh heavily. Me too bud, me too.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:53
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Today I discovered there’s a Well of Charon item that specifically keeps flamewheels from appearing in Elysium for a certain number of encounters.
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Sep 27, 2020 05:01
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Infinite attack/no reload rail with literally any status effect build is hilariously overpowered.
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Sep 27, 2020 05:06
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I beat Extreme Measures 4 for the first time... I would not recommend doing it without a ranged weapon. I had the OP build (chiron bow, epic demeter attack, epic aphrodite special, 350 life) and he still took two DDs.
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Sep 27, 2020 05:15
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So what's the actual trick to making Asterius crash into Theseus? Sometimes when I lead his charge into blondie, they'll connect and crash, but other times I'll just take 80 damage getting hit by the charge and a spear for my trouble. Also, gently caress the armored archers and shield guys. The archers have been shooting me through cover all over the map and the shield guys have some kind of teleport move that puts them on top of you for a shield spin. Lame.
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Sep 27, 2020 05:45
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I've got 20 bottles of ambrosia and never been promoted to use it. What gives?
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Sep 27, 2020 05:48
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Hand out more Nectar
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Sep 27, 2020 05:50
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You can't give em the good poo poo right away
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Sep 27, 2020 05:51
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JBP posted:I've got 20 bottles of ambrosia and never been promoted to use it. What gives? After you've progressed your relationships with some of the NPCs, they offer you summonable companions, who you level up with Ambrosia the same way weapons level up with Blood. A few important work orders also cost Ambrosia, but not many.
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Sep 27, 2020 05:54
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I wanna throw my two cents on that the fishing boon is a good luck charm. Had Zag spear with aphrodite weakness into damage, then extra damage from multiple sources and hermes attack speed increase, stupid good dps.
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Sep 27, 2020 05:58
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This game is very good. Just had an incredibly op build with fists + a lot of zeus with support fire and stacking as much dodge as I could. A question about hangover, say I have both drunken strike and drunken dash. When upgrading hangover damage on one boon, does it only apply the increased damage when that attack [or dodge in this case] applies the effect or does it choose whichever has the higher hangover damage? Professor Latency fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Sep 27, 2020 06:20
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I feel like I'm so bad at this game. I can pretty consistently get to the Hydra boss now but still die to it about half the time and have only really 'clicked' with the gun which I managed to drag to the act 3 boss before losing. All the other weapons die to bullshit halfway through Elysium. Is there any way to respec blood you've spent on weapons? I dumped it into a few before realizing how limited it was early on and really want to try some of the other weapon variants. Also Alecto keeps kicking my rear end, Meg and Tisiphone are chumps but I don't think I've actually beaten Alecto yet when she shows up.
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Sep 27, 2020 06:29
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Here's another dumb question: how do you upgrade weapons? I see that post above mine saying it was done, but I haven't noticed a way to do it. I suspect this would help a lot.
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Sep 27, 2020 06:35
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Waltzing Along posted:Here's another dumb question: how do you upgrade weapons? I see that post above mine saying it was done, but I haven't noticed a way to do it. You need to beat Megara and get into act 2. The first time you beat her with each weapon she drops Blood which Skelly teaches you to use (interact with the shadow the weapon leaves after selecting it). You can upgrade a weapon in its basic form or unlock variants that change something fundamental about the weapon (ie. the Sword has one so your 'Special' attack force expels any gems embedded in enemies, the Bow has one that makes the shotgun shoot out fewer shots but home on the last enemy you hit with a charge attack etc.). Its almost exclusively sidegrade stuff though you can also level up innate stuff in the default version of the weapon too, like giving the bow a small amount of innate crit chance. Zore fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Sep 27, 2020 06:38
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You also can't access the upgrade menu until you've unlocked all 6 base weapons (the Railgun is the last one)
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Sep 27, 2020 06:47
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