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Kenning posted:. The real surprising thing is that no up-and-comers have been able to force the losses on the injured top-rankers enough to get them demoted or retired. Maybe we're finally starting to see that. the three ozeki that held the rank when i started following sumo on an every basho basis in summer 2018 all dropping in quick sucession from september '19 to january '20 kinda count for this imo. as i mentioned last basho during that timeframe i've now seen 2 m19s win basho and 0 ozeki.
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Sep 27, 2020 06:01
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Sep 27, 2020 06:03
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Thauros posted:the three ozeki that held the rank when i started following sumo on an every basho basis in summer 2018 all dropping in quick sucession from september '19 to january '20 kinda count for this imo. as i mentioned last basho during that timeframe i've now seen 2 m19s win basho and 0 ozeki. I guess so. Losing Goeido and Takayasu was a big deal. I think Asanoyama settling in at y/o alongside Takakeisho, and Shodai contending for that spot, is a pretty big sea change. The real test for me will be getting a new Yokozuna. I think Asanoyama is still the favorite there, but it's gonna take a couple basho at least.
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Sep 27, 2020 06:10
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Sansho announced. Shodai got the Outstanding Performance prize and Tobizaru got Fighting Spirit, and they have conditional prizes riding on their match: if Shodai wins he gets the Fighting Spirit prize too, and if Tobizaru wins he gets Technique.
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Sep 27, 2020 06:18
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Surprised they didn't give out any kanto-sho (fighting spirit) to the other maegashira contenders like Onosho or Wakatakakage. Tobizaru and Shodai are definitely the two standouts this tournament I guess.
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Sep 27, 2020 06:47
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Watching live streams has made me start judging how much salt is thrown and the distance they get. This is normal right?
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Sep 27, 2020 06:57
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Watching live streams has made me start judging how much salt is thrown and the distance they get. This is normal right? Yes, that's why Terutsuyoshi is the best.
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Sep 27, 2020 07:09
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Watching live streams has made me start judging how much salt is thrown and the distance they get. This is normal right? I immediately form an opinion of a wrestler based on their salt throwing technique. So... yes?
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Sep 27, 2020 07:10
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Ura is the best. He throws like 3 grains of salt. It's very elegant.
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Sep 27, 2020 07:10
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Kenning posted:Ura is the best. He throws like 3 grains of salt. It's very elegant. I really enjoy Takarafuji's low effort, underhand flicking of salt
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Sep 27, 2020 07:12
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whats for dinner posted:I immediately form an opinion of a wrestler based on their salt throwing technique. So... yes? You notice how the two yokozuna have a similar salt tossing style that no one else dares to jack?
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Sep 27, 2020 07:59
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why the gently caress does wakaflockaflame not get an award? he's had a ridiculous basho.
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Sep 27, 2020 08:04
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Kenning posted:
A much better way to word it. Also, it feels that they tend to more 12 win yushos as well. A Yusho is a Yusho, but the YDC inside me gets a bit grumbly about it. Kenning posted:I guess so. Losing Goeido and Takayasu was a big deal. I think Asanoyama settling in at y/o alongside Takakeisho, and Shodai contending for that spot, is a pretty big sea change. The real test for me will be getting a new Yokozuna. I think Asanoyama is still the favorite there, but it's gonna take a couple basho at least. I actually find it a little worrying that no-one is really stepping up in the Hakuho-less power vacuum. I'm honestly think we might not have a new Yokozuna for a while. A second University Yokozuna would be cool, though. Marching Powder posted:...wakaflockaflame... Thank god, I'm not the only that's been thinking that! In breaking news, Hattorizakura finding new ways to come bottom of everything. Eight losses, to just nudge out Asashorei with seven.
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Sep 27, 2020 08:37
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kotoeko with all the guts.
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Sep 27, 2020 08:40
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Marching Powder posted:You notice how the two yokozuna have a similar salt tossing style that no one else dares to jack? Yes and I love it. When I first started watching I thought it was a special thing that only the Yokozuna were allowed to do. I dream of a day when Terutsuyoshi becomes Yokozuna and just grabs the whole box of salt to throw into the dohyo.
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Sep 27, 2020 08:55
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the macaroon will be dark green the colour of autumn
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Sep 27, 2020 09:26
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Can someone explain the macaroon to the new guy? Also can it be like aggressively neon green? Like Seahawks color rush green. A good "why the gently caress did someone do this?"
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Sep 27, 2020 09:28
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Can someone explain the macaroon to the new guy? Also can it be like aggressively neon green? Like Seahawks color rush green. A good "why the gently caress did someone do this?" Found this article on Japan Times from 2018 when Mitakeumi won the Nagoya Yusho, mentions the macaron and many other interesting trophies (Hungarian vases, Corona, presumably fish from the photo at the top???): https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2018/07/25/sumo/mitakeumi-earns-spoils-victory/
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Sep 27, 2020 09:45
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Sep 27, 2020 09:55
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... its a burger
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Sep 27, 2020 10:54
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Can someone explain the macaroon to the new guy? Also can it be like aggressively neon green? Like Seahawks color rush green. A good "why the gently caress did someone do this?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntsMMYWCPUw
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Sep 27, 2020 10:55
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Shodai vs Tobizaru was AWESOME. Man, that was a seriously great bout.
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Sep 27, 2020 11:34
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The shimpan department has decided to recommend Shodai for Ozeki. It will become official if the board approves it in its next meeting (it's usually a rubber stamp). Looks like we got another Ozeki!
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Sep 27, 2020 13:25
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Shodai vs Tobizaru was a great way to end the yusho and really happy to see Shodai finally win, but still felt for Tobizaru as he walked off the dohyo, looked like he was about to break down 
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Sep 27, 2020 16:05
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:The shimpan department has decided to recommend Shodai for Ozeki. It will become official if the board approves it in its next meeting (it's usually a rubber stamp). Huh, that's interesting. I was thinking that they might wait to see if he gets a decent score next basho like they did with Takakeisho.
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Sep 27, 2020 16:25
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Elissimpark posted:Huh, that's interesting. one big difference (to me at least, i don't know if the shinpan committee shares my view) is that shodai beat both ozeki while takakeisho lost to both of them he faced.he did beat hakuho in his last match before he went fusen, i don't remember how injured he seemed to have been. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=12191&b=201901
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Sep 27, 2020 16:32
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Thauros posted:
Eh, their wins/losses versus O/Y in the bashos leading up to promotion were kinda similar. Maybe they just wanted Takakeisho to have another basho at Sekiwake before promoting. They generally prefer the 33(ish) wins coming at S rather than K.
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Sep 27, 2020 16:38
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I mean he has 32 wins over the past 3 bashos and he has 2 jun yushos in the two bashos before that, so over the past 5 he has 56 wins, a yusho and 2 jun yushos. They were hungry for an Ozeki and he seems to be super healthy and is just winning matches.
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Sep 27, 2020 18:33
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There's a good chance they're gonna be down two Yokozuna by 2021 too, so makes sense they're fast-tracking some people to higher rankings.
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Sep 27, 2020 18:41
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I think part of Takakeisho vs. Shodai is the age and experience factor. Like while they're supposed to look at the last couple tournaments, it's probably somewhere in their minds that Takakeisho was a 22 year old upstart that they probably wanted to prove wasn't a fluke while Shodai's a vet that they've seen for a long time and were just waiting to put it make the leap. Of the next Sanyaku guys, if Terunofuji, Mitakuemi and Takanosho put up similar runs, I could see Terunofuji getting the nod before than the others because if Teru picks of a 32 or even 31, they're more likely to be like "close enough, buddy. Here's your rank back because we know you're good enough when healthy". while the other guys with the same record might have to really prove it.
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Sep 27, 2020 20:05
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I remember that the last Japanese Yokozuna also got a "really good year" consideration to his promotion. Not that that is a good reason to push Shodai to or pull Takakeisho from Ozeki, but the storylines are important.
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Sep 27, 2020 20:06
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That osteoarthritis isn't going away, I can't see terunofuji maintaining his spells without dropping out of one or two bashos a year.
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Sep 27, 2020 20:53
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i consider the y/o promotion guidelines to be guidelines. i don't mind a little bit of the ol' eye-test coming into it. shodai is fighting like an ozeki imo and that was a good rear end yusho. though i was heart broken for the kid. had tons of heart.
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Sep 27, 2020 21:53
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Marching Powder posted:i consider the y/o promotion guidelines to be guidelines. i don't mind a little bit of the ol' eye-test coming into it. shodai is fighting like an ozeki imo and that was a good rear end yusho. though i was heart broken for the kid. had tons of heart. I don’t think it’s the peak for tobizaru like he’s ichinojo. He’s just the right size to where hopefully he doesn’t blow some knees out too early and he has really solid technique instead of relying on power. I believe he will be in the m4-m9 upper rank and file for the next year. I do think he will struggle to kachikoshi next basho though
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Sep 27, 2020 22:35
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so assuming shodai's promoted who's going to get the second komosubi slot? presumably takanosho would get the vacated sekiwake position and terunofuji the east K slot. kiribayama?
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Sep 27, 2020 22:45
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Hell yeah! We called it! This was a very interesting basho! The huge number of kyujo was a bummer, as was seeing guys like Kotoshogiku and Shohozan on their last legs. On the other hand, the yusho race was super exciting, and I'm looking forward to seeing more from the likes of Tobizaru, Kotoshoho, and even Hoshoryu, who I think did just fine considering all the pressure on him. Final results: code:The only other teams to boast no losing records were Tiny Bug Child, in second place, and Maigius, although that team was all 8 win records except Asanoyama, meaning it scored solidly in the middle of the pack. Special shout out to Cage Kicker and Liquid Communism for failing to get a single winning record except for their ozeki pick. This was a huge fantasy league, 35 people total! I'm looking forward to next time, and I should probably work on improving my spreadsheet some more. Congrats to the joint winners!
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Sep 27, 2020 23:32
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Kenning posted:
 Friendship ended with Enho, now Tobizaru is my new best friend. For real though, Enho looked fantastic in his last match of the basho. Really hoping that's what we can expect from him next time. And for Ishiura to heal up properly.
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Sep 27, 2020 23:48
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Kenning posted:This was a huge fantasy league, 35 people total! I'm looking forward to next time, and I should probably work on improving my spreadsheet some more. Congrats to the joint winners! Thank you for doing this. November can't come quickly enough.
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Sep 27, 2020 23:49
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Was fun 
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Kenning posted:Special shout out to Cage Kicker and Liquid Communism for failing to get a single winning record except for their ozeki pick. Gotta be the best at something! This was so much fun, I super enjoyed my first basho
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