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DicktheCat posted:I'm the guy that's into ska that comes to metal shows. So, it's a flock of ravens, and a dude wearing bright clothes punctuated with checkerboard in the pit. Essentially, that one meme with Jim Carrey. It feels like there's always one of us, though. There was some overlap with the ska/punk/goth communities when I was a lad. Almost all of my show friends as a teenager/college kid were either ska kids, goths, or metalheads, and it was pretty friggin great. I too miss shows and bouncing along to Big D with half the cast of Underworld  I just remembered I worked at the Lip Service warehouse for a time! I miss Free Pants Day. I lost my free pants and I'll never get them back, probably.
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You know, as a budding young punk aficionado in the mid-2000's, AFI was one of the first bands I got into. That was just around the time they started going in a more goth? emo? direction. Was a pretty unique sound, these are two of the songs from that transitional period I liked a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ThnLRrSlc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EC5kqUlFLc Of course the one Sisters of Mercy song I like is the short and fast Iggy and the Stooges cover Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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Kerbtree posted:What’s the thread’s position on Zombina and the Skeletones? My position is  and that that's a great song, but I don't count and I guess horror punk doesn't really fit the goth attitude tonallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veaG3z_WWag Pope Hilarius II posted:No one's mentioned Trisomie 21 yet, I don't think Owns Hell yeah, Inkubus Sukkubus. They're not very good musicians (other than Candia's singing), but I've always had a soft spot for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9evNhynYZOE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNFEonnfBas Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:I know people have been touting the death of monoculture for a while, but all the younger people I work with sure seem to all dress alike and listen to the same music. It just seems like the connectivity of the internet has basically just flattened everything out like a wood plane. At 30 I'm an honorary boomer when I walk the streets these days, all the kids playing trap music on their phones with lovely audio quality. I shake my head internally. Where is your non-conformity?? Unironically be special snowflakes, at least some of you But to be honest it was already like that in the extremely boring middle-class high school that I went to in the mid-2000's. Pretty much no one was visibly anything, and few people had distinct genre preferences at all. Not even the scene kids that people here keep referring to, I actually would have been happy with that, at least it's something. Music was something they just put on in the background. We were ahead of the curve in terms of subculture being dead Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:How do you goths feel about gothic literature? I listened to a bunch of Lovecraft a couple years ago and apart from the racism I liked it. BrigadierSensible posted:Wuthering Heights the song however is a banger. Kate Bush is cool and talented. Though I dunno how gothy her cred is. Between Running Up That Hill and most of the 9th Wave, Hounds Of Love is a pretty Goth album. But I'm super biased I loving love Kate Bush!
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DicktheCat posted:I'm the guy that's into ska that comes to metal shows. So, it's a flock of ravens, and a dude wearing bright clothes punctuated with checkerboard in the pit. Essentially, that one meme with Jim Carrey. It feels like there's always one of us, though. There was some overlap with the ska/punk/goth communities when I was a lad. You should check out bands like Sonic Boom Six, Link 80, and The Flaming Tsunamis if that's your genre combo. There's quite a lot of angry ska out there. SBS is basically every genre but goth, but I can't not post Piggy In The Middle. Peep the sax solo at 1:54. First time I heard it I was like  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1XalWiJt6g
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I was a hardcore weebgoth in the mid 2000's-mid 2010's. Still a little gothy when the mood strikes. Professional dresses with damask patterns that have hidden skulls, ect.   Pics from a combined 15th birthday party with a friend. Half Death Note themed (my idea) and half Twilight themed (her idea) I was into gothic lolita and wore that dumb Misa Amane hairstyle like every other day. Because I thought L from Death Note was cool, I'd avoid covering my dark circles under my eyes when applying foundation. There would be a really obvious makeup line and it looked terrible.  this was what I wore to church with my mom on Christmas eve that year. Not a very goth thing to do.
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Phlegmish posted:At 30 I'm an honorary boomer when I walk the streets these days, all the kids playing trap music on their phones with lovely audio quality. I shake my head internally. Where is your non-conformity?? Unironically be special snowflakes, at least some of you I dont know, the quality of Stabbing Westward and Cop Shoot Cop songs on a third hand cassette copy I was listening to in 1999 wasnt all that hot either. I think it's easy to be a surface-level goth these days, but like I alluded to earlier, some kids will stick around and dig deeper and most won't. I'm in my mid late 30s now and so many people I've known wore their subculture like a hat and dropped it in a second, but there's a few that have taken what they learned from being a punk or a goth or whatever into their lives even if the leather trousers dont fit anymore or if there isnt so much hair to put into a mohawk.
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Phlegmish posted:You know, as a budding young punk aficionado in the mid-2000's, AFI was one of the first bands I got into. That was just around the time they started going in a more goth? emo? direction. Was a pretty unique sound, these are two of the songs from that transitional period I liked a lot: AFI are the only band that properly brings out the "their older stuff is better" guy in me and it makes me sad. Mission accomplished I guess? Mid period stuff from when Jade joined (Black Sails in the Sunset, All Hallows EP, Art Of Drowning, Sing The Sorrow to a slightly lesser extent though its still great) is so good, then the majority of what came after... Isn't. The Head Like A Hole cover is the highlight of Decemberunderground. Anything after doesn't exist to me, especially the fact that an album was a goddamn Best Buy exclusive. Wearing an AFI shirt whilst wandering round uni back in my very first week (16 years ago, yeesh) was what led me to meet my best friend so that era has a special place for me
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God I forgot about stabbing westward. I sure did listen to that CD a lot. If you want good gothic fiction read some Shirley Jackson books. (The haunting TV show on Netflix can kiss my rear end, read the book instead) Then watch some old Vincent Price movies or some Hammer horrors. I am describing my own plans for October.
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BrigadierSensible posted:I also read a short story/novella by a famous American writer in a similar style about some poor married bloke who falls in love with his wife's niece, and she with him, in some bleak snowy little town. In the end they try to commit suicide by sledding into a tree, but only end up crippling themselves, and the end is the niece, wife and husband all living together, crippled bitter, and poorer than they were because he can't work as well now his body is all banged up and old. Again, supposedly this was a great tragic goth love story. Sorry I cannot remember the name of author or story. Googling suggests it's Ethan Frome by Edith Wharton.
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Phlegmish posted:You should check out bands like Sonic Boom Six, Link 80, and The Flaming Tsunamis if that's your genre combo. There's quite a lot of angry ska out there. Awww shiet, thanks brobro (or whatever your identity is!) I 'preciate it! Gonna check these out when it's not the middle of the night. Seems like I do most of my gooning at or past 12 am these days. Also, Pasketti, I did the weebgoth thing part-time with egl stuff. I'd post pics, but don't have any due to dumb sad bull poo poo. I'm gonna make a note to take pics of the dresses I do have along with my patches. Let me go make that note. DicktheCat fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:How do you goths feel about gothic literature?
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DicktheCat posted:Awww shiet, thanks brobro (or whatever your identity is!) I 'preciate it! Gonna check these out when it's not the middle of the night. Seems like I do most of my gooning at or past 12 am these days. No problem, and I identify as a triple bro, not merely double. One of my uh, very specific pet peeves is when people think all 'ska' (they mean ska+distortedguitars) is like Reel Big Fish just because that specific sound was big for a few years in the US during the nineties. A lot of ska is really angry, and people were doing it long before the crack rock bands (which I do love). You can combine those horns and/or upstrokes with all sorts of oi, punk, hardcore, hip-hop, dub, whatever the gently caress you like. Adequate Seven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGJYNy_x96E Capdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE2hxOwnhas Kortatu (with Sekta Core cover that is simultaneously harder and more ska): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqgOWHMCB7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FEirmE1LZc ^ this one even has an organ solo in it somewhere Link 80: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWog4V71SVc Mouthwash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR4N9J2hI9Q Sonic Boom Six (including a Clash cover with another bitchin' sax solo that's got dumbass purists in a tizzy even though the Clash wrote the book on genre terrorism, and a cover of eveyone's favorite Mighty Mighty Bosstones song): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3mC7eCm38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9IU2_hQAF4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxF5SoeySuA The Filaments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTD2TiHz1_s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOGoUpaD8WE The Flaming Tsunamis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNLh7RGspLQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9TGJ5zSdj8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aINjb2nn9m8 Ya Basta ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdqQzYPxk2g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYj2fxsrags https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvNeIX4eHWs Sorry for posting this in the goth thread, but my ears perk up when there's a possibility someone might maybe potentially be into the same obscure bands that I like. And you know, two-tone, post-punk/goth, once again punk is the nexus - the overlap is 'people likely to wear combat boots aesthetically' I leave you all with the immortal words of Laurel Aitken (pbuh) (I'm the guy on stage in the two-tone suit who does nothing but dance): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbvV-Vjsp64 The cheapman said, that they're lookin' cute In their braces, and their bovver boots Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Phlegmish posted:You know, as a budding young punk aficionado in the mid-2000's, AFI was one of the first bands I got into. I don't remember whether I got into AFI first or The Living End first. I do remember that I got into AFI because "The Boy Who Destroyed the World" is in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, and I got into The Living End after hearing "Prisoner of Society" on K-Rock. I heard the Offspring version of this song first. It was fine, but when I heard the AFI version, it blew my mind. There was just so much more...passion? It was just so much edgier and more lively. And I LOVED The Offspring. I named one of my Tamagotchis "Kevin, Jr." after Noodles. I named my diary Bryana after Dexter (his real name is Bryan, and trusting a male diary with all my secrets seemed weird & wrong). Even now, I could probably sing the choruses to 90% of their pre-Conspiracy songs, but they failed with "Totalimmortal".
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How do we feel about the Smiths, or were they too well-known and successful for us to even discuss? I wasn't expecting to end up liking them when I checked them out way back, but I do. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out is just an amazing song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siO6dkqidc4 Also that bassline YeahTubaMike posted:And I LOVED The Offspring. I named one of my Tamagotchis "Kevin, Jr." after Noodles. I named my diary Bryana after Dexter (his real name is Bryan, and trusting a male diary with all my secrets seemed weird & wrong). Even now, I could probably sing the choruses to 90% of their pre-Conspiracy songs, but they failed with "Totalimmortal". Ha, I actually listened to Conspiracy of One a lot, was one of the first CDs I really owned (although I think my dad bought it for me). Must have been about 11 at the time. Has a lot of decent to good songs with great little hooks that get stuck in your head. They unfortunately also do a lot of those annoying little voices throughout the album and that snotty/ironic nineties vibe that I don't really like. California bands in particular were/are like this for some reason. I'm not even American and I still noticed that, it's kind of weird. The Offspring is a pretty legitimate band, good gateway for kids getting into punk or heavier music more generally. I worry sometimes that we don't really have any bands like that anymore since the 2010's, something to draw the younger people in, get them hooked and picking up guitars. e: oh hell yes seems like we got our own bonus track in Europe Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Phlegmish posted:Ha, I actually listened to Conspiracy of One a lot, was one of the first CDs I really owned (although I think my dad bought it for me). Must have been about 11 at the time. Has a lot of decent to good songs with great little hooks that get stuck in your head. I was 13 when Conspiracy of One came out. "Original Prankster" and "One Fine Day" are the only songs I know from that album -- "One Fine Day" is fun and peppy. quote:They unfortunately also do a lot of those annoying little voices throughout the album and that snotty/ironic nineties vibe that I don't really like. California bands in particular were/are like this for some reason. I'm not even American and I still noticed that, it's kind of weird. What are the voices & vibe that you're referring to? My knowledge of SoCal skate punk starts at the Warped Tour 2003 compilation, so "ironic '90s" is not something I'm familiar with.
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Maybe more of a style than a specific period. I don't know, like in Pretty Fly For A White Guy...starts out with 'funny' pseudo-German, continues with an ironic female-sung chorus, segues into Spanish counting,...all within the first 20 seconds. Just a bunch of lolrandom voices and accents thrown in for no reason other than to be quirky and hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtTR-_Klcq8 It's the kind of pop-punk where they constantly have a knowing, ironic, smug smirk on their faces. Usually really nasal singing. I know they're often literal kids, but my natural reaction is "just shut the gently caress up and play music". I saw Me First and the Gimme Gimmes and Reel Big Fish (both from California holy poo poo it really is true) a couple of years ago, and even their stage banter is like that. It's annoying. This might be a cultural thing, it seems to be a very American sort of thing, so presumably not nearly as off-putting to Americans themselves.
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Phlegmish posted:How do we feel about the Smiths, or were they too well-known and successful for us to even discuss? I wasn't expecting to end up liking them when I checked them out way back, but I do. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out is just an amazing song: They were a very important part of my life for a long time, but I’ve just recently got over them (at the age of 49). The music is still great, but Morrissey is too awful a human being for me to enjoy them anymore.
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Phlegmish posted:Maybe more of a style than a specific period. I don't know, like in Pretty Fly For A White Guy...starts out with 'funny' pseudo-German, continues with an ironic female-sung chorus, segues into Spanish counting,...all within the first 20 seconds. Just a bunch of lolrandom voices and accents thrown in for no reason other than to be quirky and hilarious. The pseudo-German bit is sampled from Def Leppard's "Rock of Ages". Why? Well, why not?
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Just saw Cool World and oh thaaaats why people have been recommending it to me for a decade and I’m like “isn’t it Bakshi’s shittiest?” It is, but holy gently caress that soundtrack OWNS
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:morrissey is the loving worst but man is this the best version of miserable lie ever i love the bass in this, and it's my favorite song ever about having a small dick.
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Morrissey is a oval office, just saying before i post... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrCzDdVx-PY  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeNRYUVkIzE  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KeII31qyck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvBvIB3K4ps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlVhcPJQ6NQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9x3mMhbfA A Grand Egg fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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puggish posted:i love the bass in this, and it's my favorite song ever about having a small dick. oh yeah, rourke was great: https://youtu.be/S32kh1aM0r0
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puggish posted:i love the bass in this, and it's my favorite song ever about having a small dick. Yeah Morrissey's whiny voice might be an integral/iconic part of the Smiths, but as a band they're good because they're good musicians. e: have some Gang of Four: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byCqOvRMOvo
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a more upbeat track off wire’s 154 (reminds me of blur for some reason, i bet blur was pretty wire-influenced) https://youtu.be/XZ2RvSHK_B8 and mbv cover: https://youtu.be/LUBcqs0Z9QA e. youtube channel av reminded me of how good magazine’s “real life” is, so here’s a thing https://youtu.be/oCv5w1TlLB4 nishi koichi fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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5AM when youre awake and living it goth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KiU5P4ihIQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ap22XLhFJw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBeTXiTZbCc A Grand Egg fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Phlegmish posted:Maybe more of a style than a specific period. I don't know, like in Pretty Fly For A White Guy...starts out with 'funny' pseudo-German, continues with an ironic female-sung chorus, segues into Spanish counting,...all within the first 20 seconds. Just a bunch of lolrandom voices and accents thrown in for no reason other than to be quirky and hilarious. I didn't realize that was its own style. Yikes. Don't get me wrong, I still like that song, but it's more despite the "quirk" than because of it. quote:It's the kind of pop-punk where they constantly have a knowing, ironic, smug smirk on their faces. Usually really nasal singing. I know they're often literal kids, but my natural reaction is "just shut the gently caress up and play music". I saw Me First and the Gimme Gimmes and Reel Big Fish (both from California holy poo poo it really is true) a couple of years ago, and even their stage banter is like that. It's annoying. Oof, you couldn't pay me to go to a Me First & the Gimme Gimmes concert, and that's coming from someone whose first concert was MC Chris. Almost every cover I've heard of theirs has been covered by someone else, better -- naturally I can't think of any good examples right now. Maybe "Take on Me"? Which Reel Big Fish covered well, although I don't really like the song regardless. quote:This might be a cultural thing, it seems to be a very American sort of thing, so presumably not nearly as off-putting to Americans themselves. There are unfortunately a ton of terrible American things that American people are desensitized to, and I suppose wacky ironic bullshit is on that list too.
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YeahTubaMike posted:I didn't realize that was its own style. Yikes. Don't get me wrong, I still like that song, but it's more despite the "quirk" than because of it. Protip: thats all bad punk and bad music
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BrigadierSensible posted:How do you goths feel about gothic literature? I can say without reservation I love the works of Pie and his French contemporary, Charles Baudelaire. I can recite a number of their works by heart. Of interest to some in the thread may be the works of Ruth White, an undercelebrated pioneer of electronic mcusic who translated some of the poems from Baudelaire's Fleurs du Mal into English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qLB9sczvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xrolRv0Mdc
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