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peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

These guys have this case all sewn up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydyy-frH1-U

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colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

Quavers posted:

The SCLeaks people chat about filthy FUDster TheAgent and him being a Derek Smart alt

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/752728241?t=0h48m17s

:gary:

We are all Derek Smart.

Nicholas
Mar 7, 2001

Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?
The Agent is definitely an elite corporate spy being paid by Frontier, Microsoft, Sony, Hello Games, CDPR, Rockstar, Derek Smart, Kevin Costner, Ouya, AMD and the Escapist. Source: why would anyone else want Star Citizen to fail???

JazzPaws
Aug 10, 2014

- Ponzi Scheme Survivor -

How many millions of dollars will this generate? or was it to advise gray market operators to adjust prices accordingly?

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AnyMatureBumblebee-mobile.mp4

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

quote:

You're free to believe whatever you wish, however Chris has always stated that the game would be free to play once purchased.

People who assume the game will not bring in revenue make a lot of assumptions and forget that there are many optioons for selling 'flair' and such that could raise money. Squadron 42 Chapters 1, 2 and 3 are in development concurrently. They don't need to remake all the assets and tools Squadron 42 takes place in the same universe as Star Citizen, that's 3 single player campaigns and the multiplayer all of which will bring in money. They have the tools and assets to tell an unending number of stories within the game universe, they are not all necessarily about navy pilots perhaps.

They can sell addon modules such as Theatres of War, and they don't need to stop there, more Murray Cup Racing tracks, ground based racing tracks - you name it. If he wants to create a 1930's or Victorian era murder mystery weekend at a hotel in the game he can do that, and sell tickets for it. He's creating the Star Trek Holodeck, in the game universe... that's what the SimPods are, they don't just have to do 'ships and space combat they can put anything in them.

They can sell ship skins, player homes, in-game collectables - you name it, none of which would substantially advantage a player in the game. Every year we have the IAE which is held at a convention centre in the game, we also have the Chairman's Club Lounges and the Million Mile High Club. What does that mean? It means that they can gate off parts of the game so that only those who 'qualify' can access that part of the game universe - if they want to sell tickets for real money to in-game events like the IAE they can do that, they can sell tickets to the VIP boxes for the Murray Cup Racing and SataBall tournaments. They can also make other events and locations, they can create 'guest star appearance events' if they wish, you don't even need the guest stars to come into a studio, they can play via FOiP and VOiP from home. There are lot's of ways to raise money that wouldn't prevent a player from progressing in the game if they chose not to partake.

LucasArts owned the IP for Star Wars, 75% of the revenue earned by LucasArts from Star Wars was not in movie ticket sales, it was in merchandising and licensing - toys, branded goods etc. Mark Hamill is perfectly accustomed to seeing his character's face on bags of grapes, cauliflowers and cabbages, as well as Tee-shirts, school bags and pencil cases. CIG already offer merchandise and there will be more.

They can make their own in-lore, in-game machinima to sell TV/Movie episodes if they wish, Chris and his board partners all owned a movie production studio that was reasonably successful. Whatever Marvel and Disney can do, Star Citizen can do. Chris knew from the early days when he saw the funding take off in a way he never expected, he's not just 'making a game' he's building a franchise - a living breathing universe, that's why they had an all star AAA cast, and there will be more. The Calders are specialists in licensing and IP digital rights management, that's why they wanted in on the project. They wouldn't throw millions at a niche game that would fizzle out a few months after release. Frontier Developments already had a released 'space game' why go for a niche company that has no final release candidate yet? Chris knew exactly what he was doing when he insisted on a unified 1st and 3rd person rig, He knew what the potential was for a living breathing universe full of stories, that's why he insists on such high fidelity assets in the game and why he went to one of the premier companies in the world for live action CGI instead of in-house animators.

Don't worry about money for servers, that will likely be the very least of Cloud Imperium's problems, try not to think so small, this was never going to be a 'game' for a few months then half price sales forever on Steam until Star Citizen II comes out. We gave them the support to build an Empire and that is exactly what Chris is doing.

StarCirizer: Whatever Marvel and Disney can do, Star Citizen can do.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

trucutru posted:

StarCirizer: Whatever Marvel and Disney can do, Star Citizen can do.

isnt chris kinda blacklisted in Hollywood because Russell Crowe sued him for poo poo? like all these dudes think Generic scifi universe is gonna just take off and become the next star wars. this poo poo aint star wars and its not gonna break big. outside AAA studio games, most games get big because word of mouth, its how among us got big and its why FNAF is so loving gigantic with the kids now. weird grognard flight games don't get big unless they are a existing IP or based on something and even then they are usually nich games. id like to think star wars squadrons reverses that but LOL it won't be star citizen.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Sep 27, 2020

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Quavers posted:

The SCLeaks people chat about filthy FUDster TheAgent and him being a Derek Smart alt

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/752728241?t=0h48m17s

:gary:

lol, just lol

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Dapper_Swindler posted:

isnt chris kinda blacklisted in Hollywood because Russell Crowe sued him for poo poo? like all these dudes think Generic scifi universe is gonna just take off and become the next star wars.

This is not what that dude is saying. He's saying that SC can recreate star wars, hollywood, broadway, la liga, etc. *inside* the game. And once they do that you can easily sell access to those events in the game as well as merch outside.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

TheAgent posted:

lol, just lol

Thats what Derek would say!

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Sep 27, 2020

L. Ron Hoover
Nov 9, 2009

trucutru posted:

StarCirizer: Whatever Marvel and Disney can do, Star Citizen can do.

I'm surprised he didn't mention the opera house on Mars! He always enjoyed dropping that one. I hope his dreams aren't getting smaller :(

Favourite part is paying real money for box seats for an in-game sataball match... just.....

L. Ron Hoover fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Sep 27, 2020

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

trucutru posted:

This is not what that dude is saying. He's saying that SC can recreate star wars, hollywood, broadway, la liga, etc. *inside* the game. And once they do that you can easily sell access to those events in the game as well as merch outside.

lol thats even dumber. i could see a modding community maybe but lol holy gently caress thats even more insane.

BumbleOne
Jul 1, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

BluesShaman posted:

Yes.

The designers at Playstation and Xbawks specifically designed their consoles to be able to handle Star Citizen.

They know the future of gaming when they see it.

yeah how cheap of ms and sony. such cheap copycats. and so greedy.
before cig invented aggressive “streaming“ from ssd, all studios just loaded all the data into ram, just before the level started. because before cig invented the open world all games were made out of levels.

like horizon zero down

:smug:


uh...i mean like mario 64

cmdrk
Jun 10, 2013

Dwesa posted:

Functioning of thrusters in the future as envisioned by Star Citizen is indistinguishable from magic noclip.

Star Citizen: sufficiently advanced flight models are indistinguishable from no-clip

Mu77ley
Oct 14, 2016

colonelwest posted:

We are all Derek Smart.

I'm not, and neither's my wife!

JamMasterJim
Mar 27, 2010

Mu77ley posted:

I'm not, and neither's my wife!

Have you ever seen your wife and Derek Smart in the same place?

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

trucutru posted:

StarCirizer: Whatever Marvel and Disney can do, Star Citizen can do.

This whole thing is amazing

quote:

If he wants to create a 1930's or Victorian era murder mystery weekend at a hotel in the game he can do that, and sell tickets for it. He's creating the Star Trek Holodeck, in the game universe... that's what the SimPods are, they don't just have to do 'ships and space combat they can put anything in them.

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
:reddit: Almost 1 year since theaters of war playable demo

quote:

Where is it? I legit don't care if it's broken....I just spawned in Star Marine and got sucked into the walls of the level....I can't backspace .....I pulled a grenade that I never threw, yet it disappear from my hand and I could not kill myself to respawn.
Trust me...you can't get much more broken than what you have in live right now in SM....just release it to the public already.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help
lol that is beyond the acceptance stage at this point.

Like how do you go from "they can have all the time (and our money!) they need to polish it" to "release the poo I don't care"

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Dapper_Swindler posted:

isnt chris kinda blacklisted in Hollywood because Russell Crowe sued him for poo poo?

It was Kevin Costner. When Kevin Costner of all people has the high-ground in a dispute you have failed at life.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Pixelate posted:

:reddit: Almost 1 year since theaters of war playable demo

Chris would never release anything that not up to his high standards. He will release it when it is perfect and ready to blow your socks of, buy an Idris (that you can't use in ToW).

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Inspector Gesicht posted:

It was Kevin Costner. When Kevin Costner of all people has the high-ground in a dispute you have failed at life.

http://www.ascendantpictures.com/

Somehow this site survived the wrath of Kevin Costner. It's one of the few websites in existence that beats the SQ42 roadmap in being updated less.

Feindfeuer
Jun 20, 2013

shoot men, receive credits
This thread reminded me that it was time for my yearly check up on SC. 8 Years after it's release in 2012 Release Date Reference, and the game is still a buggy mess that is barely playable and has very minimal content. 12/10, would get scammed by Croberts again because of my Freelancer Nostalgia, forgetting that it only got done cause they kicked him out. See you guys next year.

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
:reddit: Is anyone else just... bored when playing SC but enjoys hearing about updates?

quote:

I've taken up more physical crafts, especially sewing. I just hop in VC with whoever in my group is playing, and just chime in occasionally as I sew.

quote:

I like following development but honestly I don't enjoy playing the game besides checking out new tech.

quote:

The only difference is 2017 had much more video content then 2020.
I cant believe im saying this but 2017 to me was actually better then 2020.. more eye candy ⚆ _ ⚆

quote:

I really hope they can add more depth sometime in the next decade.
And yes, I know it's an alpha.

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development
:reddit: Is anyone else just... bored when playing SC but enjoys hearing about updates?

Just curious if anyone else is in the same boat I am. Long term backer, concierge, PTU tester, etc. I've realized that while I check this subreddit almost every day, and consume all the weekly videos and posts from CIG, I just don't actually care to play the game much. PTU tests sure. Maybe even a couple hours of the new patch. After that I just kind of drift away from actually playing the game.
Anyone else find more joy in just lurking then playing? I'm not sure if it's just long term burnout , the more instant gratification of single player games or games like PS2 but I just don't have a drive to log in much.
Maybe icache/global persistence or server meshing will get me back in, but this whole year my interest in the game has waned even though I like hearing about the updates. Anyone else feeling similar?


:( I feel exactly the same. It just feels too shallow and it doesn't help that you risk losing any progress to bugs and crashes. It just feels more like a tech demo than an actual game. I really hope they can add more depth sometime in the next decade. And yes, I know it's an alpha.



:ohdear:

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
You missed the sewing solution!

CIG should just add sewing to their holodeck imo

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

Quavers posted:

:( I feel exactly the same. It just feels too shallow and it doesn't help that you risk losing any progress to bugs and crashes. It just feels more like a tech demo than an actual game. I really hope they can add more depth sometime in the next decade. And yes, I know it's an alpha.

Must ..maintain ..orthodoxy

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.
Ah ha, us haters and the commandos have converged in how we 'play' the game.
We both don't play at all and instead derive enjoyment from reading updates.

It's really beautiful how we're all the same on the inside.

DigitalPenny
Sep 3, 2018

Pixelate posted:

:reddit: Had a pretty bad experience showing my friends SC, how can I salvage the experience for them? HELP

Head of the marketing at CIG feeling the pressure !

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

CeeJee posted:

http://www.ascendantpictures.com/

Somehow this site survived the wrath of Kevin Costner. It's one of the few websites in existence that beats the SQ42 roadmap in being updated less.

http://www.ascendantpictures.com/team.html

quote:

A gaming wunderkind, Roberts sold his first computer game at the age of 14

DigitalPenny
Sep 3, 2018


Good to see the weather physics are in... It's amazing what you can do with a stiff tail wind !

DigitalPenny
Sep 3, 2018


Prove him wrong and play SQ42 on Xmas day !

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Pixelate posted:

:reddit: Had a pretty bad experience showing my friends SC, how can I salvage the experience for them? HELP

The answer to this is just don't bother.
It's a video game, it shouldn't matter, my pal loves Borderlands and I don't - conversation over.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

quote:

If he wants to create a 1930's or Victorian era murder mystery weekend at a hotel in the game he can do that, and sell tickets for it. He's creating the Star Trek Holodeck, in the game universe... that's what the SimPods are, they don't just have to do 'ships and space combat they can put anything in them.

The SimPod is just a room with a bartender, he wears a monocle for the Victorian era, and a trilby for 1930's.
Only $5000.

Armadillo Tank
Mar 26, 2010


https://mobile.twitter.com/friedrichbode/status/1306547605678305282

Going to lose myplace in the thread but one of those filthy leavers is now a dev at ubi doing vr now.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Dapper_Swindler posted:

isnt chris kinda blacklisted in Hollywood because Russell Crowe sued him for poo poo? like all these dudes think Generic scifi universe is gonna just take off and become the next star wars. this poo poo aint star wars and its not gonna break big. outside AAA studio games, most games get big because word of mouth, its how among us got big and its why FNAF is so loving gigantic with the kids now. weird grognard flight games don't get big unless they are a existing IP or based on something and even then they are usually nich games. id like to think star wars squadrons reverses that but LOL it won't be star citizen.

Kevin costner not Russel crowe,but i think both of them are nutcases anyway so...

Slow_Moe
Feb 18, 2013

So I've not been following this thread for a while, is star citizer still the best drat space sim ever?

Nicholas
Mar 7, 2001

Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?

Armadillo Tank posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/friedrichbode/status/1306547605678305282

Going to lose myplace in the thread but one of those filthy leavers is now a dev at ubi doing vr now.

This can only mean that VR in Star Citizen is finished. They'll probably flip the switch any day now

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Finally, home... posted:


quote:

Aah.. yes. The new adaptive camouflage. Beautiful shot.

Something few even notice, look at how the ankles bend to keep the soles of the foot aligned with the ground even though it is sloping, each foot aligns to the ground independently. You don't find that in other MMO's and very few single player games have it outside of mocap'ed scripted movement. If you turn him into the slope he will go to the front of his foot and lift off his ankle altogether if the slope is steep enough.

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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Aah.. yes. The ankles. Beautiful shot.

Let me ignore how hes floating above the ground surface.

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