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Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything


Antifa rioters beat me until my brain bled.

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a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Targeting the oldest of the old with that typewriter font. God drat.

he types every single one and sends them out personally. you wouldn’t understand the level of interaction me and Andrew share.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

mila kunis posted:

are there any good youtube deradicalize videos for normies that breakdown why the entire right youtube moral panic scene sucks
nope, enjoy your new friends

Equeen
Oct 29, 2011

Pole dance~

mila kunis posted:

people i know have fallen down the right wing youtube rabbit hole and are now babbling about pronouns, jordan peterson, evergreen college and college marxists.

are there any good youtube deradicalize videos for normies that breakdown why the entire right youtube moral panic scene sucks

Early hbomberguy videos maybe? Contrapoints? I feel like humorous videos would probably be the best ones to disarm people like your friends.

Squack McQuack
Nov 20, 2013

by Modern Video Games

mila kunis posted:

people i know have fallen down the right wing youtube rabbit hole and are now babbling about pronouns, jordan peterson, evergreen college and college marxists.

are there any good youtube deradicalize videos for normies that breakdown why the entire right youtube moral panic scene sucks

this one is pretty convincing

https://youtu.be/zz3PhWFhA3I?t=0m27s

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


mila kunis posted:

people i know have fallen down the right wing youtube rabbit hole and are now babbling about pronouns, jordan peterson, evergreen college and college marxists.

are there any good youtube deradicalize videos for normies that breakdown why the entire right youtube moral panic scene sucks

why would anyone follow jordan peterson's advice considering where he ended up

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Maya Fey posted:

why would anyone follow jordan peterson's advice considering where he ended up

To be fair I still like Mark Fisher

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Maya Fey posted:

why would anyone follow jordan peterson's advice considering where he ended up

i don't think they've reached that part of the peterson story arc yet

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Equeen posted:

Early hbomberguy videos maybe? Contrapoints? I feel like humorous videos would probably be the best ones to disarm people like your friends.

thx

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I wouldn't suggest hbomberguy to anyone. I mean I agree with him and I can't stand his videos.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
his videos are pretty inoffensive what’s he been cancelled for

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Maya Fey posted:

why would anyone follow jordan peterson's advice considering where he ended up
In my mates case; start with low self esteem and crippling depression that put him well behind his peers in life.
To compensate he helped everyone generously, often at the expense of his time.
People did like him immensely. He just didn't love himself.

Peterson's shallow advice like "life is suffering" was catnip to the feeling he was behind the curve.
The garbage idea of life having a fixed order where the poor naturally fall to the bottom, where women were this force of chaos gives a false sense of self assertion. (As did his dad giving him a job after falling uni).

Ultimately becoming a centrist/sovereign individual gave him a bearing in life.

The only positive is he lost a ton of weight.
But he now pretty much lives off meat as an appendix op recovery made him think all carbs are bad.
And yes he tweets to Meat girl with magic accounts of how steak makes seeing blue things better.

Any gain were nullified as he's alienated himself from most of his family and only has a few friends who remain so they can sit at the singles table sharing their favourite racist tweets and memes.

The sad reality is Peterson calls for you to dismiss anyone in your life who dare question you.
He abuses a tactic of addiction management; "only keep good people around you" to encourage his devotees to sever ties with friends and family who call them out when they try to assert that the pay gap isn't real and is powered by Marxists who will put you in campa (as per the gulag book) at the dinner table.

All it takes is a mild disagreement, a simple dent in their flimsy argument.
They are so easily triggered. The projection is incredible.

For others who are wondering how to deal with this; you can't.

No matter how solid your logic is, or carefully you pace a debate and use the tactics of "can you prove this?", it just tightens the screws.
They soon get backed into a corner and will ignore you to survive.

Despite Peterson being a drug addict, they still defend him as his self help tripe "helped". Or he got ill from cider giving him an auto immune disease. He *needed* the benzos to cope.

It's like trying to get an alcoholic to stop because the booze gives them liquid courage and makes the shy nerd the life of the party.

They just want their self esteem boosted and to not feel downtrodden by parents/work/life not working out.

Your counter arguments gives them the fear they'll will undo all their work.

The only time people seem to shift is when life hits rock bottom and reality hits.

So being cancelled or publically shamed might work.
But that usually can go very bad as the ideology is so hollow and the underlying depression still there, that it has proven fatal. (That poor kid who tried to own drag storytime).

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



CharlestheHammer posted:

his videos are pretty inoffensive what’s he been cancelled for
Guy is just saying that Tim and Eric humor doesn't do it for him.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
What was the story about the kid that tried to own drag story time?

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



StashAugustine posted:

To be fair I still like Mark Fisher

Oof

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
lmao



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv9XNFpRdhg

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Patton would've put his boot up the Proud Boys' asses. Dude stopped a lynching once (granted it was mostly because he didn't want civilians killing one of his soldiers without trial, although that's probably more than some of his contemporaries would've done) and despite believing Black soldiers weren't smart enough to operate tanks he let the 761st Tank Battalion tank part in combat operations instead of sticking them with rear area duties like most other US generals did with all-black combat units.

Vincent Van Goatse has issued a correction as of 21:18 on Sep 26, 2020

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

everyone who was ever in their life a cavalry officer is exactly the same kind of bone-deep evil motherfucker, I hate to tell you. something about being trained to kill people from horseback, and/or killing people from horseback, does that to your brain

lots of breadtube types have "right-wing youtubers are brain poison" videos, for all the good they do. Thought Slime had a pretty good one, which I can't quite remember. it's probably a good idea to target the exact dipshit your moron friends are listening to, and/or what bullshit buzzword is currently eroding their synapses in real time, and pick something suited to that

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Patton would've put his boot up the Proud Boys' asses. Dude stopped a lynching once (granted it was mostly because he didn't want civilians killing one of his soldiers without trial, although that's probably more than some of his contemporaries would've done) and despite believing Black soldiers weren't smart enough to operate tanks he let the 761st Tank Battalion tank part in combat operations instead of sticking them with rear area duties like most other US generals did with all-black combat units.
none of these guys read books, they get their poo poo from movies

if they want my advice i'd suggest apocalypse now. just gotta bring in some playboy bunnies. we can play charlie. "antifa didn't get much USO... was dug in too deep... moving too fast... his idea of R&R was some cold rice and a little rat meat... wash it down with a sip of white claw"

https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1309969106800529408

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lit-x30bTow

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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
White claw rules

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
you know... i might just go get some

Gaupo Guacho
Aug 5, 2010

by Pragmatica

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

"antifa didn't get much USO... was dug in too deep... moving too fast... his idea of R&R was some cold rice and a little rat meat... wash it down with a sip of white claw"

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Patton would've put his boot up the Proud Boys' asses. Dude stopped a lynching once (granted it was mostly because he didn't want civilians killing one of his soldiers without trial, although that's probably more than some of his contemporaries would've done) and despite believing Black soldiers weren't smart enough to operate tanks he let the 761st Tank Battalion tank part in combat operations instead of sticking them with rear area duties like most other US generals did with all-black combat units.

Patton would have been fine with the proud boys, actually, and would have hated BLM and been a huge trump supporter

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
donald trump and george patton are both alike in that they have overblown reputations for competence in their chosen fields based on flamboyant personalities, lots of media attention, and being given enterprises that had too many resources behind them to ever truly fail

miniscule12
Jan 8, 2020

HAHA YEAH HE PEED IN HIS OWN MOUTH I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING IT UP.

Algund Eenboom posted:

Patton would have been fine with the proud boys, actually, and would have hated BLM and been a huge trump supporter

The framers would have loved trump, no one should engage in lib bullshit.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Panfilo posted:

What was the story about the kid that tried to own drag story time?
Australia, Queensland. A right wing University student group decides to storm and disrupt a drag race story time in a library. There was video and the optics of an angry guy upsetting kids backfired.

The guy was the president of a uni club that claimed to be part of the national party but had been disendorsed and removed.

Where he was hoping to gain party support by demonstrating that drag acts corrupt kids, all of the heads of the National party called him out.

The very people he hoped would come out to support him and legitimise his horrid views failed to.

It was even more complex as he was gay, raised Catholic and lived in the country, neither come with a particularly open view to sexuality.

In the past he was a face for the no to gay marriage campaign.
There was some allegation he was put up there by conservative parties as you had a young gay guy as opposed to countless old people.

I suppose it's one twisted way to feel good about yourself if you're in a marginalised group. Becoming a cheerleader for a cause outweighs any self doubt. Especially if you're young and don't know better

However storming the drag event didn't work as planned and all of the resulting drama and rejection from the party he wanted to please caused him to jump under a train.

It's a tragic situation as this should have been a chance for some serious soul seeking and perhaps learning how ignorance was driving his hate and surrounding oneself with groups that reinforce this doesn't help in the long run.

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
no

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Whenever I see a post like that, I wonder about sympathy for the nazi’s victims. If this stunt had gone the way he wanted, he would have opened innocent people, including kids, up to violence. When a nazi dies, I mostly think about how many people are now safe from them.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


miniscule12 posted:

The framers would have loved trump, no one should engage in lib bullshit.

Nah the framers would have found Trump too gauche and would disdain the idea that an election resulted in someone who kept calling them losers.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 224 days!

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Whenever I see a post like that, I wonder about sympathy for the nazi’s victims. If this stunt had gone the way he wanted, he would have opened innocent people, including kids, up to violence. When a nazi dies, I mostly think about how many people are now safe from them.

it's all of us

there's not really any other conclusion

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

mila kunis posted:

people i know have fallen down the right wing youtube rabbit hole and are now babbling about pronouns, jordan peterson, evergreen college and college marxists.

are there any good youtube deradicalize videos for normies that breakdown why the entire right youtube moral panic scene sucks

https://youtu.be/lsWndfzuOc4

if they aren't loving idiots this will break the spell

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

Wheeee posted:

https://youtu.be/lsWndfzuOc4

if they aren't loving idiots this will break the spell

lol

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





One day, kind of out of the blue, my best friend of more than 15 years was like, "ah yeah you and your wife should have a kid. We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

When I asked him what he meant, he said we have to, "outbreed the Mexicans". I went home and haven't interacted with him since. Just straight-up ghosted a dude I've been close friends with for years. Been almost a year and eventually his texts and such stopped. I don't have close friends anymore, just acquaintances from work. I prefer it that way I think.

What I'm saying is, if one of your friends is down the rabbit hole: ghost them.

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

I would recommend at least telling someone like that “hey you said some real Nazi poo poo and I don’t associate with fuckers like that so gently caress off.” At least then they’ll have something concrete to look back on when all the good people have left them alone and know that it was their own behavior that made things that way

Almost all the friends I had growing up were pretty lefty and most have become even further radicalized lately, but I did have a friend who constantly defended all the hosed up poo poo Israel was doing to Palestine to the point of genocide apologia so I told him I don’t want to be friends with people who are cool with genocide and severed. I still get a friend request from him like once a year but I haven’t answered and don’t intend to

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



how does someone like that just decide now is the time to fourteen words his buddy, who clearly is skeptical at best about it, and then double down when questioned


he backed away into the hedge immediately afterwards and I never heard from again, must have just gone nuts or something

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

"Look man that is disgusting and pathetic and you should be ashamed of your beliefs. I don't associate with that and you should do better with your life good luck."

... then door slam them shitheads. No quarter for this bullshit.

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

https://twitter.com/AamonHawk/status/1309853992944623623?s=20

Sazabi
Feb 15, 2014

A-MA-ZON!!

Still not as disturbing as most of the poo poo he says in defense of fascism.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

lol the liberal “voting fixes everything” tag at the end was funny, too.

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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Panfilo posted:

What was the story about the kid that tried to own drag story time?

Some idiot failson in Australia got so mad at drag queens he loving died

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